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 Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:34 am
the whole "renamed to mimic Autobots" theory is cute, but only works with the toys. Silverbolt, Rhinox, Scorponok, etc... their names are only happenstance, fitting for their beast modes.
The only ones who took names for the purpose of mimicry were Primal and Megs.
So anyway. What was up with Ravage's Russian accent? :p
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:41 am
Cudboy As for the connection to G1 characters, you've overlooked both Grimlock and Prowl, who were supposedly both reincarnations of their previous Autobot selves. Of course, neither of these characters actually made it to the animated program, so I guess they don't count in regards to this particular conversation... I read in an interview a while back that Simon Furman was very surprised to find that the toy Grimlock for BW was supposed to be G1 Grimlock. I will be interested to see if he uses him in the new comic. Generally speaking, though, there tends not to be a huge deal of communication between the producers of the show and the makers of the toys...and I tend to go treat the show as canon rather than the toy bios, who for all I know are written by an underpaid worker from Guam!
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:21 am
Yamato1 the whole "renamed to mimic Autobots" theory is cute, but only works with the toys. Silverbolt, Rhinox, Scorponok, etc... their names are only happenstance, fitting for their beast modes. The only ones who took names for the purpose of mimicry were Primal and Megs. So anyway. What was up with Ravage's Russian accent? :p Hey, I think it worked. pirate As for the renaming based on names . . . yeah, that got bad. Take the mutants subsect. Four toys, all with two beast modes and no robot mode. The closest they had was a robot head somewhere in the forms. I bring them up for the use of the name 'Soundwave'. A crocodile/bat. Ugh. I have him, and he is a decent enough mold, but the name is horrid to me. Trouble is, I can't think of one I like for him better.
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:25 am
Talon TDS Yamato1 the whole "renamed to mimic Autobots" theory is cute, but only works with the toys. Silverbolt, Rhinox, Scorponok, etc... their names are only happenstance, fitting for their beast modes. The only ones who took names for the purpose of mimicry were Primal and Megs. So anyway. What was up with Ravage's Russian accent? :p Hey, I think it worked. pirate As for the renaming based on names . . . yeah, that got bad. Take the mutants subsect. Four toys, all with two beast modes and no robot mode. The closest they had was a robot head somewhere in the forms. I bring them up for the use of the name 'Soundwave'. A crocodile/bat. Ugh. I have him, and he is a decent enough mold, but the name is horrid to me. Trouble is, I can't think of one I like for him better. how does Skullcruncher sound for the Soundwave mutant figure?
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:35 pm
Kira Yui rockmanx Mylian Dammit people, Tarantulas was NOT descended from Unicron. Sure he gets called Unicron's Spawn by somebody, but that's just an insult, like calling somebody a son of a b**ch only more so. 
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:21 pm
Yamato1 the whole "renamed to mimic Autobots" theory is cute, but only works with the toys. Silverbolt, Rhinox, Scorponok, etc... their names are only happenstance, fitting for their beast modes. Rhinox never had a G1 namesake. And while I agree with you entirely, one cannot overlook the aforementioned Grimlock and Prowl, who are in fact the original Autobots themselves, some 300 years in the future. Prowl somehow is resurrected after the grizzly episode depicted in The Movie, but then again, if Brawn survived that encounter, why not some of the others (but definitely not Ironhide...). Adib I read in an interview a while back that Simon Furman was very surprised to find that the toy Grimlock for BW was supposed to be G1 Grimlock. I will be interested to see if he uses him in the new comic. Mr. Furman's excessive reverence for Grimlock will indeed carry over to his handling of the impending Beast Wars comic. Personally, I just wish he'd get over the character - he's really not that interesting! Soundwave was a bad choice for the ill-fated mutant line, but Razorclaw was worse - he already existed as part of this franchise!
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:23 am
Yamato1 the whole "renamed to mimic Autobots" theory is cute, but only works with the toys. Silverbolt, Rhinox, Scorponok, etc... their names are only happenstance, fitting for their beast modes. The only ones who took names for the purpose of mimicry were Primal and Megs. So anyway. What was up with Ravage's Russian accent? :p it made him sexy was Ravage a dog or some kind of slek cat what was whit the tiger head iv seen at lest 3 toys for him 2 of whit were cool
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:35 am
Ravage has never been a dog. G1 cassette Ravage was a big lanky cat, like a jaguar or puma.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:51 am
Talon TDS Yamato1 the whole "renamed to mimic Autobots" theory is cute, but only works with the toys. Silverbolt, Rhinox, Scorponok, etc... their names are only happenstance, fitting for their beast modes. The only ones who took names for the purpose of mimicry were Primal and Megs. So anyway. What was up with Ravage's Russian accent? :p Hey, I think it worked. pirate As for the renaming based on names . . . yeah, that got bad. Take the mutants subsect. Four toys, all with two beast modes and no robot mode. The closest they had was a robot head somewhere in the forms. I bring them up for the use of the name 'Soundwave'. A crocodile/bat. Ugh. I have him, and he is a decent enough mold, but the name is horrid to me. Trouble is, I can't think of one I like for him better. SkyBite? ScaleWing?
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:37 am
*considers for a moment* Skullcruncher works for the croc mode, but not the bat. As for Skybite or Scalewing, I tend to try and revamp names from known transformers.
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:53 am
gonk Gah - Ravage was NOT a dog! Why do people keep mistaking him as being canine?! Sorry if my response seems overly harsh, but that's one thing that has always really bugged me. Officially, Ravage is a 'Machine Robo' Jaguar. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:32 am
Talon TDS * considers for a moment* Skullcruncher works for the croc mode, but not the bat. As for Skybite or Scalewing, I tend to try and revamp names from known transformers. How about FearSwoop? He existed. He was a jet 'con from G2, I believe. Apparently only released in Europe. or how about Hun-Grrr. both beast modes are associated with eating... well, sort of, in the bat's case.
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:44 am
Fearswoop was a great toy, one of my favorates of the G2 line (besides the mightly Calcar). And Sky-Byte is an established monikre, albeit from the alternate RiD reality. I guess that's your point though, huh Talon? That said, why would the Beast Wars mutants necessarily require known names? Icebird was original, as was Poison Bite, so I think something like the suggested 'Scalewing' would have been a good choice, actually. 3nodding
I'm still trying to decide on good replacement names for the dual pack Optimus Primal and Megatron... although Convobat and Megalligator aren't so bad, I s'pose.
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:28 pm
Mylian Ravage has never been a dog. G1 cassette Ravage was a big lanky cat, like a jaguar or puma. jaguar thats it i herd hin refred as that i use to think he was a dobermen back when g1 was still on tv aw youth but still why did he look like a tiger in bw ill never know
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:37 pm
Cats (once you discount their fur and markings) are remarkably similar animals. Such is why the design team produced Cheetor, then the exact same toy with a different paint job for Tigertron.
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