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Ha ha! We read about Napoleon in World History today. I learned that during the 18-somethings he ruled almost all of Europe. Viva l'emporeur!

I find it funny that both him and Hitler were told dont attack Switzerland and dont attack Russia...yet they both leave Switzerland, the small little country, alone and attack Russia, the big huge country, without enough winter gear. The stupidity of some short men bent on taking over the world...that reminds me of a commercial the History Channal ran, it was a short man in an old style dress uniform saying "I want ze Nepoleon" in the French accent and the guy behind the counter (this was in a pastry shop) kept saying "I dont understand you" then the man points to one and the guy says "Oh you mean the Nepoleon" (add in the the normal American accent and the empsis on the end of Nepoleon) the commerical then goes to black and says For almost taking over the world you get a pastry named after you. Also to the person who was talking about the Canadians on the landings in Normandy Juno (the Canadian beach) was the second easiest after Utah (one of the two American beaches) Gold beach (one of the British beaches) was almost intact leading to an almost seige and Sword (the other British beach) was cloged because of some very good Artilery fire from the Germans which lead to a lot of picking off of men Utah was the only beach where things went right and they ended up moving so far so fast they had to stop for fear of going to far ahead of everyone else and Omaha was horrid because it was totaly intact and a crack division was there on "vacation" along with the normal 2nd rate divison on all of the beaches.

I know Utah was light defence but at that point the few fortifacations there were there were almost totaly destroied. Gold and Sword were worse then expected but not delayed long enough to make it go horribly wrong although they were behind on their objectives. The US Army Air Corp's landings went horribly wrong but they were able to improvise and make mixed groups and get to the objectives because they all had to learn every unit's objectives and in the end only ended up not meeting a few objectives. I am a history buff with WW II as one of my strong points but I dont know all of it.

Yep. The 101 and the 86 where the two divisions. Excelent men best of the best. Sadly no movie I have ever seen shows just how bad they had it and how great their comeback was. They ended up in groups roughly 20 men in size and many of them held entire villiages when faced with sometimes multiple German divisions. A fine bunch of men too bad the US doesnt have more of them.

Ever notice how you really don't hear much about the Japanese POW camps unless you dig a bit? I mean, concentration camps were horrible, but haven't we heard enough about those? I mean, read Ghost Soldiers. Crappy title, but it provides an extremely accurate portrayal of Japanese POW camps. They were...horrible. I mean, my skin crawls just hinking about some of the stuff U.S. POWs had to go through.

And while I'm on a schpeel, ever wonder why you never hear about half tracks?

OH! If any of you are minature painters and/or players, let me suggest Flames of War. Great WWII miniatures game. Tell me if you play it. TELL ME!!!!

Yeah, the Japanese, Germans, and Russians were utterly brutal in their POW camp management. Often, I know the Germans would do this at least, they would shoot their prisoners. The way the US fioghting me were treated was horrid, but war is not a pretty thing. Plus, our POW camps were often so much better then theirs, but America has always seemed to fight wars in a more civil manor, minus the Indian Wars, but those weren't really wars, more like "Masecures(sp)" for how badly they got destroyed.

-fives Rowdy- Yay for homeschooling! Yeah, they do feed you a lot of politically correct BS there...

The main difference between the bombers and the lighters was that there were people on the scene with cameras capturing the act of the burning. The difference between the bombing was that is is much more unreal, since you don't see the village getting destroyed, just a puff and there is nothing less. Underexagerated, yes, but basicly, that's it. Lighters burn for a while, plus the soldiers knew there were people in the village when they burned it, bombers are harder to tell.

I guess that is a good point but they still cause the same end result. The bombers are going to think there are people there because why else would they be told to bomb the s**t out of village X? I mean its the same thing just done different ways.

But Rowdy wants Mesoptamian Civilizations? Which should we do?