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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:21 am


goddess_of_music
well yes, i am a bad self mutilator...I wish to stop...but The depression kicks in...and it is REALLY hard to stop then

please, keep going and then maybe nature will kick in and you'll either die from it or come close [which ever comes first].you wanna know why kids cut themselves? its because its the trendy thing to do they hear about it from their friends and then try it.then they go to school with cuts on themselves and hope someone pays attiention.[these people should be ignored and shuned because they continue the cycle of stupidity] cutting is for weak people. if you have ever cut or hurt yourself in anyway on purpose your an idiot and natures trying to tell you something [stop your complaining or hang yourself]DEPRESSION ISNT SUPPOSE TO BE TRENDY
PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:52 am


arucard665+1
goddess_of_music
well yes, i am a bad self mutilator...I wish to stop...but The depression kicks in...and it is REALLY hard to stop then

please, keep going and then maybe nature will kick in and you'll either die from it or come close [which ever comes first].you wanna know why kids cut themselves? its because its the trendy thing to do they hear about it from their friends and then try it.then they go to school with cuts on themselves and hope someone pays attiention.[these people should be ignored and shuned because they continue the cycle of stupidity] cutting is for weak people. if you have ever cut or hurt yourself in anyway on purpose your an idiot and natures trying to tell you something [stop your complaining or hang yourself]DEPRESSION ISNT SUPPOSE TO BE TRENDY


While there are many people who use it as a fad, there are many more who do it because they really are depressed. Depression and other such mental illnesses are real, not something that people make up. You can't say that all of the forty somethings who cut are doing it because it's the cool thing to do. I know some in real life. I'm not making them up. No, I'm quite sure that they've passed that stage in their lives. It's not even just depression that causes cutting, though that's what many people attribute it to since it's the easiest thing to grab onto. For those of us who cut and don't do it for fad's sake, it's generally because we really do have problems. The woman who's just caught her husband cheating on her has problems. The child who's being beat up by the schoolyard bully has problems. The teenager who just got raped by her boyfriend has problems. When people have problems, they have to release them somehow. For many of us, we have a more crude way of releasing emotions because the part of our brains which handles that sort of stuff didn't develop correctly. At this point, there are several areas of the brain that scientists are looking into, including the hippocamus, as possible reasons why people are prone to doing this. They already know that there really are people hardwired for it; the people who do it find that it lowers their levels of serotonin, a stress hormone. There are more reasons than just being "sad" to cut. There's also people with Dissociative PD, who feel as if cutting is the only thing that can make them feel "real" (if you haven't felt this, it's hard to explain. It's like feeling that you're an illusion and everyone else around you is real). There are other people with PTSD who do it because they are having problems getting over being abused. The brain doesn't let go of something that traumatic that easily. It is not a suicide attempt; it is a survival mechanism. Go to this site for more info: http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/injury.html

I must say, I'm quite disappointed in the people here. I thought you all were Christians. Doesn't the Bible say to love our neighbours? Yet you find pleasure in shamlessly ripping them to shreads, instead. That's a good reason why I generally don't associate myself with Christians; I don't want to be known as one of those heartless people who tries to proselytise others and make them feel as if they're no good and they're going to hell. I am a Christian, but that doesn't mean that I want to be associated with them, not if it means that I have to be cruel to people. You show a good deal of hatred towards those who cut. Doesn't the Bible talk about identifying the plank in your own eye first before trying to remove the speck in your brother's eye? While all sins are bad, I'm quite sure that God is more despises a holier-than-thou attitude, considering that it's harder for him to reach a person who has placed all trust in himself. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are those who are weeping, for they will be comforted.

NO, I am not condoning cutting. I AM, however, trying to explain why hatred against those who cut is wrong. I feel like a regular Dorthea Dix.

And one final note; name-calling is a bad way to debate. I've seen several posts around asking why no one is getting involved in any of the debates. You want to know why? Because no one wants to be told that they're stupid for being human and holding an opinion. Wow... that's revolutionary, right there. I don't really mean to pick on you individually, arucard665+1, but yours is the post that finally broke the proverbial straw on the camel's back. It just hurts to see so many people who just don't understand and are unwittingly sending people to hell because of it.

Mellonikan


Linkg

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:24 am


Mellonikan
arucard665+1
goddess_of_music
well yes, i am a bad self mutilator...I wish to stop...but The depression kicks in...and it is REALLY hard to stop then

please, keep going and then maybe nature will kick in and you'll either die from it or come close [which ever comes first].you wanna know why kids cut themselves? its because its the trendy thing to do they hear about it from their friends and then try it.then they go to school with cuts on themselves and hope someone pays attiention.[these people should be ignored and shuned because they continue the cycle of stupidity] cutting is for weak people. if you have ever cut or hurt yourself in anyway on purpose your an idiot and natures trying to tell you something [stop your complaining or hang yourself]DEPRESSION ISNT SUPPOSE TO BE TRENDY


While there are many people who use it as a fad, there are many more who do it because they really are depressed. Depression and other such mental illnesses are real, not something that people make up. You can't say that all of the forty somethings who cut are doing it because it's the cool thing to do. I know some in real life. I'm not making them up. No, I'm quite sure that they've passed that stage in their lives. It's not even just depression that causes cutting, though that's what many people attribute it to since it's the easiest thing to grab onto. For those of us who cut and don't do it for fad's sake, it's generally because we really do have problems. The woman who's just caught her husband cheating on her has problems. The child who's being beat up by the schoolyard bully has problems. The teenager who just got raped by her boyfriend has problems. When people have problems, they have to release them somehow. For many of us, we have a more crude way of releasing emotions because the part of our brains which handles that sort of stuff didn't develop correctly. At this point, there are several areas of the brain that scientists are looking into, including the hippocamus, as possible reasons why people are prone to doing this. They already know that there really are people hardwired for it; the people who do it find that it lowers their levels of serotonin, a stress hormone. There are more reasons than just being "sad" to cut. There's also people with Dissociative PD, who feel as if cutting is the only thing that can make them feel "real" (if you haven't felt this, it's hard to explain. It's like feeling that you're an illusion and everyone else around you is real). There are other people with PTSD who do it because they are having problems getting over being abused. The brain doesn't let go of something that traumatic that easily. It is not a suicide attempt; it is a survival mechanism. Go to this site for more info: http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/injury.html

I must say, I'm quite disappointed in the people here. I thought you all were Christians. Doesn't the Bible say to love our neighbours? Yet you find pleasure in shamlessly ripping them to shreads, instead. That's a good reason why I generally don't associate myself with Christians; I don't want to be known as one of those heartless people who tries to proselytise others and make them feel as if they're no good and they're going to hell. I am a Christian, but that doesn't mean that I want to be associated with them, not if it means that I have to be cruel to people. You show a good deal of hatred towards those who cut. Doesn't the Bible talk about identifying the plank in your own eye first before trying to remove the speck in your brother's eye? While all sins are bad, I'm quite sure that God is more despises a holier-than-thou attitude, considering that it's harder for him to reach a person who has placed all trust in himself. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are those who are weeping, for they will be comforted.

NO, I am not condoning cutting. I AM, however, trying to explain why hatred against those who cut is wrong. I feel like a regular Dorthea Dix.

And one final note; name-calling is a bad way to debate. I've seen several posts around asking why no one is getting involved in any of the debates. You want to know why? Because no one wants to be told that they're stupid for being human and holding an opinion. Wow... that's revolutionary, right there. I don't really mean to pick on you individually, arucard665+1, but yours is the post that finally broke the proverbial straw on the camel's back. It just hurts to see so many people who just don't understand and are unwittingly sending people to hell because of it.

now I just want to say that I am a chrisian, and my favorite verse is luke 6 37, do not judge and you will not be judged, do not condem and you will not be condemed, forgive and you fill be forgiven, so don't judge all christians based on one or two, in other words take your own advice, I am not condoning what arucard665+1 said, I am just saying you did about the same thing with christians.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:04 am


Linkg
Mellonikan
arucard665+1
goddess_of_music
well yes, i am a bad self mutilator...I wish to stop...but The depression kicks in...and it is REALLY hard to stop then

please, keep going and then maybe nature will kick in and you'll either die from it or come close [which ever comes first].you wanna know why kids cut themselves? its because its the trendy thing to do they hear about it from their friends and then try it.then they go to school with cuts on themselves and hope someone pays attiention.[these people should be ignored and shuned because they continue the cycle of stupidity] cutting is for weak people. if you have ever cut or hurt yourself in anyway on purpose your an idiot and natures trying to tell you something [stop your complaining or hang yourself]DEPRESSION ISNT SUPPOSE TO BE TRENDY


While there are many people who use it as a fad, there are many more who do it because they really are depressed. Depression and other such mental illnesses are real, not something that people make up. You can't say that all of the forty somethings who cut are doing it because it's the cool thing to do. I know some in real life. I'm not making them up. No, I'm quite sure that they've passed that stage in their lives. It's not even just depression that causes cutting, though that's what many people attribute it to since it's the easiest thing to grab onto. For those of us who cut and don't do it for fad's sake, it's generally because we really do have problems. The woman who's just caught her husband cheating on her has problems. The child who's being beat up by the schoolyard bully has problems. The teenager who just got raped by her boyfriend has problems. When people have problems, they have to release them somehow. For many of us, we have a more crude way of releasing emotions because the part of our brains which handles that sort of stuff didn't develop correctly. At this point, there are several areas of the brain that scientists are looking into, including the hippocamus, as possible reasons why people are prone to doing this. They already know that there really are people hardwired for it; the people who do it find that it lowers their levels of serotonin, a stress hormone. There are more reasons than just being "sad" to cut. There's also people with Dissociative PD, who feel as if cutting is the only thing that can make them feel "real" (if you haven't felt this, it's hard to explain. It's like feeling that you're an illusion and everyone else around you is real). There are other people with PTSD who do it because they are having problems getting over being abused. The brain doesn't let go of something that traumatic that easily. It is not a suicide attempt; it is a survival mechanism. Go to this site for more info: http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/injury.html

I must say, I'm quite disappointed in the people here. I thought you all were Christians. Doesn't the Bible say to love our neighbours? Yet you find pleasure in shamlessly ripping them to shreads, instead. That's a good reason why I generally don't associate myself with Christians; I don't want to be known as one of those heartless people who tries to proselytise others and make them feel as if they're no good and they're going to hell. I am a Christian, but that doesn't mean that I want to be associated with them, not if it means that I have to be cruel to people. You show a good deal of hatred towards those who cut. Doesn't the Bible talk about identifying the plank in your own eye first before trying to remove the speck in your brother's eye? While all sins are bad, I'm quite sure that God is more despises a holier-than-thou attitude, considering that it's harder for him to reach a person who has placed all trust in himself. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are those who are weeping, for they will be comforted.

NO, I am not condoning cutting. I AM, however, trying to explain why hatred against those who cut is wrong. I feel like a regular Dorthea Dix.

And one final note; name-calling is a bad way to debate. I've seen several posts around asking why no one is getting involved in any of the debates. You want to know why? Because no one wants to be told that they're stupid for being human and holding an opinion. Wow... that's revolutionary, right there. I don't really mean to pick on you individually, arucard665+1, but yours is the post that finally broke the proverbial straw on the camel's back. It just hurts to see so many people who just don't understand and are unwittingly sending people to hell because of it.

now I just want to say that I am a chrisian, and my favorite verse is luke 6 37, do not judge and you will not be judged, do not condem and you will not be condemed, forgive and you fill be forgiven, so don't judge all christians based on one or two, in other words take your own advice, I am not condoning what arucard665+1 said, I am just saying you did about the same thing with christians.


Aha, I guess I should be slapped on the wrist for that one. And no, I don't think that all Christians are bad and evil, I guess that's just how my post came across as. I've just seen too many preachers who act like this isn't an issue or that anyone who does it is stupid. I appologise for seeming so... rough. I didn't mean to, it's just that this is an issue kinda close to me.

Mellonikan


Linkg

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:02 pm


Mellonikan
Linkg
Mellonikan
arucard665+1
goddess_of_music
well yes, i am a bad self mutilator...I wish to stop...but The depression kicks in...and it is REALLY hard to stop then

please, keep going and then maybe nature will kick in and you'll either die from it or come close [which ever comes first].you wanna know why kids cut themselves? its because its the trendy thing to do they hear about it from their friends and then try it.then they go to school with cuts on themselves and hope someone pays attiention.[these people should be ignored and shuned because they continue the cycle of stupidity] cutting is for weak people. if you have ever cut or hurt yourself in anyway on purpose your an idiot and natures trying to tell you something [stop your complaining or hang yourself]DEPRESSION ISNT SUPPOSE TO BE TRENDY


While there are many people who use it as a fad, there are many more who do it because they really are depressed. Depression and other such mental illnesses are real, not something that people make up. You can't say that all of the forty somethings who cut are doing it because it's the cool thing to do. I know some in real life. I'm not making them up. No, I'm quite sure that they've passed that stage in their lives. It's not even just depression that causes cutting, though that's what many people attribute it to since it's the easiest thing to grab onto. For those of us who cut and don't do it for fad's sake, it's generally because we really do have problems. The woman who's just caught her husband cheating on her has problems. The child who's being beat up by the schoolyard bully has problems. The teenager who just got raped by her boyfriend has problems. When people have problems, they have to release them somehow. For many of us, we have a more crude way of releasing emotions because the part of our brains which handles that sort of stuff didn't develop correctly. At this point, there are several areas of the brain that scientists are looking into, including the hippocamus, as possible reasons why people are prone to doing this. They already know that there really are people hardwired for it; the people who do it find that it lowers their levels of serotonin, a stress hormone. There are more reasons than just being "sad" to cut. There's also people with Dissociative PD, who feel as if cutting is the only thing that can make them feel "real" (if you haven't felt this, it's hard to explain. It's like feeling that you're an illusion and everyone else around you is real). There are other people with PTSD who do it because they are having problems getting over being abused. The brain doesn't let go of something that traumatic that easily. It is not a suicide attempt; it is a survival mechanism. Go to this site for more info: http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/injury.html

I must say, I'm quite disappointed in the people here. I thought you all were Christians. Doesn't the Bible say to love our neighbours? Yet you find pleasure in shamlessly ripping them to shreads, instead. That's a good reason why I generally don't associate myself with Christians; I don't want to be known as one of those heartless people who tries to proselytise others and make them feel as if they're no good and they're going to hell. I am a Christian, but that doesn't mean that I want to be associated with them, not if it means that I have to be cruel to people. You show a good deal of hatred towards those who cut. Doesn't the Bible talk about identifying the plank in your own eye first before trying to remove the speck in your brother's eye? While all sins are bad, I'm quite sure that God is more despises a holier-than-thou attitude, considering that it's harder for him to reach a person who has placed all trust in himself. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are those who are weeping, for they will be comforted.

NO, I am not condoning cutting. I AM, however, trying to explain why hatred against those who cut is wrong. I feel like a regular Dorthea Dix.

And one final note; name-calling is a bad way to debate. I've seen several posts around asking why no one is getting involved in any of the debates. You want to know why? Because no one wants to be told that they're stupid for being human and holding an opinion. Wow... that's revolutionary, right there. I don't really mean to pick on you individually, arucard665+1, but yours is the post that finally broke the proverbial straw on the camel's back. It just hurts to see so many people who just don't understand and are unwittingly sending people to hell because of it.

now I just want to say that I am a chrisian, and my favorite verse is luke 6 37, do not judge and you will not be judged, do not condem and you will not be condemed, forgive and you fill be forgiven, so don't judge all christians based on one or two, in other words take your own advice, I am not condoning what arucard665+1 said, I am just saying you did about the same thing with christians.


Aha, I guess I should be slapped on the wrist for that one. And no, I don't think that all Christians are bad and evil, I guess that's just how my post came across as. I've just seen too many preachers who act like this isn't an issue or that anyone who does it is stupid. I appologise for seeming so... rough. I didn't mean to, it's just that this is an issue kinda close to me.
I understand, most people that don't know me think evil satanic freek, then when they get to know me a lot of the people I know say they changed thier opinion of christians from "preaching judgemental jerks" to "nice down to earth good people", that is a quote, and what thier mental image of what a christian is now, that is what makes it all worth while to me personally, you know besides the fact that GOD who died for us said to.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:48 pm


Mellonikan
arucard665+1
goddess_of_music
well yes, i am a bad self mutilator...I wish to stop...but The depression kicks in...and it is REALLY hard to stop then

please, keep going and then maybe nature will kick in and you'll either die from it or come close [which ever comes first].you wanna know why kids cut themselves? its because its the trendy thing to do they hear about it from their friends and then try it.then they go to school with cuts on themselves and hope someone pays attiention.[these people should be ignored and shuned because they continue the cycle of stupidity] cutting is for weak people. if you have ever cut or hurt yourself in anyway on purpose your an idiot and natures trying to tell you something [stop your complaining or hang yourself]DEPRESSION ISNT SUPPOSE TO BE TRENDY


While there are many people who use it as a fad, there are many more who do it because they really are depressed. Depression and other such mental illnesses are real, not something that people make up. You can't say that all of the forty somethings who cut are doing it because it's the cool thing to do. I know some in real life. I'm not making them up. No, I'm quite sure that they've passed that stage in their lives. It's not even just depression that causes cutting, though that's what many people attribute it to since it's the easiest thing to grab onto. For those of us who cut and don't do it for fad's sake, it's generally because we really do have problems. The woman who's just caught her husband cheating on her has problems. The child who's being beat up by the schoolyard bully has problems. The teenager who just got raped by her boyfriend has problems. When people have problems, they have to release them somehow. For many of us, we have a more crude way of releasing emotions because the part of our brains which handles that sort of stuff didn't develop correctly. At this point, there are several areas of the brain that scientists are looking into, including the hippocamus, as possible reasons why people are prone to doing this. They already know that there really are people hardwired for it; the people who do it find that it lowers their levels of serotonin, a stress hormone. There are more reasons than just being "sad" to cut. There's also people with Dissociative PD, who feel as if cutting is the only thing that can make them feel "real" (if you haven't felt this, it's hard to explain. It's like feeling that you're an illusion and everyone else around you is real). There are other people with PTSD who do it because they are having problems getting over being abused. The brain doesn't let go of something that traumatic that easily. It is not a suicide attempt; it is a survival mechanism. Go to this site for more info: http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/injury.html

I must say, I'm quite disappointed in the people here. I thought you all were Christians. Doesn't the Bible say to love our neighbours? Yet you find pleasure in shamlessly ripping them to shreads, instead. That's a good reason why I generally don't associate myself with Christians; I don't want to be known as one of those heartless people who tries to proselytise others and make them feel as if they're no good and they're going to hell. I am a Christian, but that doesn't mean that I want to be associated with them, not if it means that I have to be cruel to people. You show a good deal of hatred towards those who cut. Doesn't the Bible talk about identifying the plank in your own eye first before trying to remove the speck in your brother's eye? While all sins are bad, I'm quite sure that God is more despises a holier-than-thou attitude, considering that it's harder for him to reach a person who has placed all trust in himself. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are those who are weeping, for they will be comforted.

NO, I am not condoning cutting. I AM, however, trying to explain why hatred against those who cut is wrong. I feel like a regular Dorthea Dix.

And one final note; name-calling is a bad way to debate. I've seen several posts around asking why no one is getting involved in any of the debates. You want to know why? Because no one wants to be told that they're stupid for being human and holding an opinion. Wow... that's revolutionary, right there. I don't really mean to pick on you individually, arucard665+1, but yours is the post that finally broke the proverbial straw on the camel's back. It just hurts to see so many people who just don't understand and are unwittingly sending people to hell because of it.

first off, very well spoken and for that you have my respect.
secondly you will have to forgive me but i am alittle bitter towards these people because i used to be depressed and i despise what they are [and for how weak i used to be] no its not good what im doing per say but of course thats why there are poeple like you to guide and be the voice of reason [like i said i have a problem with my bitterness over ridding my sense or reason and clear thinking...and for that im sorry]

andy-warhols-jaded-self


Servio Memoria

PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:31 pm


Cutting definitely doesn't help, But i cant really say anything...
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:23 pm


Mellonikan
arucard665+1
goddess_of_music
well yes, i am a bad self mutilator...I wish to stop...but The depression kicks in...and it is REALLY hard to stop then

please, keep going and then maybe nature will kick in and you'll either die from it or come close [which ever comes first].you wanna know why kids cut themselves? its because its the trendy thing to do they hear about it from their friends and then try it.then they go to school with cuts on themselves and hope someone pays attiention.[these people should be ignored and shuned because they continue the cycle of stupidity] cutting is for weak people. if you have ever cut or hurt yourself in anyway on purpose your an idiot and natures trying to tell you something [stop your complaining or hang yourself]DEPRESSION ISNT SUPPOSE TO BE TRENDY


While there are many people who use it as a fad, there are many more who do it because they really are depressed. Depression and other such mental illnesses are real, not something that people make up. You can't say that all of the forty somethings who cut are doing it because it's the cool thing to do. I know some in real life. I'm not making them up. No, I'm quite sure that they've passed that stage in their lives. It's not even just depression that causes cutting, though that's what many people attribute it to since it's the easiest thing to grab onto. For those of us who cut and don't do it for fad's sake, it's generally because we really do have problems. The woman who's just caught her husband cheating on her has problems. The child who's being beat up by the schoolyard bully has problems. The teenager who just got raped by her boyfriend has problems. When people have problems, they have to release them somehow. For many of us, we have a more crude way of releasing emotions because the part of our brains which handles that sort of stuff didn't develop correctly. At this point, there are several areas of the brain that scientists are looking into, including the hippocamus, as possible reasons why people are prone to doing this. They already know that there really are people hardwired for it; the people who do it find that it lowers their levels of serotonin, a stress hormone. There are more reasons than just being "sad" to cut. There's also people with Dissociative PD, who feel as if cutting is the only thing that can make them feel "real" (if you haven't felt this, it's hard to explain. It's like feeling that you're an illusion and everyone else around you is real). There are other people with PTSD who do it because they are having problems getting over being abused. The brain doesn't let go of something that traumatic that easily. It is not a suicide attempt; it is a survival mechanism. Go to this site for more info: http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/injury.html

I must say, I'm quite disappointed in the people here. I thought you all were Christians. Doesn't the Bible say to love our neighbours? Yet you find pleasure in shamlessly ripping them to shreads, instead. That's a good reason why I generally don't associate myself with Christians; I don't want to be known as one of those heartless people who tries to proselytise others and make them feel as if they're no good and they're going to hell. I am a Christian, but that doesn't mean that I want to be associated with them, not if it means that I have to be cruel to people. You show a good deal of hatred towards those who cut. Doesn't the Bible talk about identifying the plank in your own eye first before trying to remove the speck in your brother's eye? While all sins are bad, I'm quite sure that God is more despises a holier-than-thou attitude, considering that it's harder for him to reach a person who has placed all trust in himself. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are those who are weeping, for they will be comforted.

NO, I am not condoning cutting. I AM, however, trying to explain why hatred against those who cut is wrong. I feel like a regular Dorthea Dix.

And one final note; name-calling is a bad way to debate. I've seen several posts around asking why no one is getting involved in any of the debates. You want to know why? Because no one wants to be told that they're stupid for being human and holding an opinion. Wow... that's revolutionary, right there. I don't really mean to pick on you individually, arucard665+1, but yours is the post that finally broke the proverbial straw on the camel's back. It just hurts to see so many people who just don't understand and are unwittingly sending people to hell because of it.

what?? Dorthea Dix has nothing to do with Christians being ignorant.

My Hollow


Mellonikan

PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:28 pm


My Hollow
Mellonikan
arucard665+1
goddess_of_music
well yes, i am a bad self mutilator...I wish to stop...but The depression kicks in...and it is REALLY hard to stop then

please, keep going and then maybe nature will kick in and you'll either die from it or come close [which ever comes first].you wanna know why kids cut themselves? its because its the trendy thing to do they hear about it from their friends and then try it.then they go to school with cuts on themselves and hope someone pays attiention.[these people should be ignored and shuned because they continue the cycle of stupidity] cutting is for weak people. if you have ever cut or hurt yourself in anyway on purpose your an idiot and natures trying to tell you something [stop your complaining or hang yourself]DEPRESSION ISNT SUPPOSE TO BE TRENDY


While there are many people who use it as a fad, there are many more who do it because they really are depressed. Depression and other such mental illnesses are real, not something that people make up. You can't say that all of the forty somethings who cut are doing it because it's the cool thing to do. I know some in real life. I'm not making them up. No, I'm quite sure that they've passed that stage in their lives. It's not even just depression that causes cutting, though that's what many people attribute it to since it's the easiest thing to grab onto. For those of us who cut and don't do it for fad's sake, it's generally because we really do have problems. The woman who's just caught her husband cheating on her has problems. The child who's being beat up by the schoolyard bully has problems. The teenager who just got raped by her boyfriend has problems. When people have problems, they have to release them somehow. For many of us, we have a more crude way of releasing emotions because the part of our brains which handles that sort of stuff didn't develop correctly. At this point, there are several areas of the brain that scientists are looking into, including the hippocamus, as possible reasons why people are prone to doing this. They already know that there really are people hardwired for it; the people who do it find that it lowers their levels of serotonin, a stress hormone. There are more reasons than just being "sad" to cut. There's also people with Dissociative PD, who feel as if cutting is the only thing that can make them feel "real" (if you haven't felt this, it's hard to explain. It's like feeling that you're an illusion and everyone else around you is real). There are other people with PTSD who do it because they are having problems getting over being abused. The brain doesn't let go of something that traumatic that easily. It is not a suicide attempt; it is a survival mechanism. Go to this site for more info: http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/injury.html

I must say, I'm quite disappointed in the people here. I thought you all were Christians. Doesn't the Bible say to love our neighbours? Yet you find pleasure in shamlessly ripping them to shreads, instead. That's a good reason why I generally don't associate myself with Christians; I don't want to be known as one of those heartless people who tries to proselytise others and make them feel as if they're no good and they're going to hell. I am a Christian, but that doesn't mean that I want to be associated with them, not if it means that I have to be cruel to people. You show a good deal of hatred towards those who cut. Doesn't the Bible talk about identifying the plank in your own eye first before trying to remove the speck in your brother's eye? While all sins are bad, I'm quite sure that God is more despises a holier-than-thou attitude, considering that it's harder for him to reach a person who has placed all trust in himself. Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. Blessed are those who are weeping, for they will be comforted.

NO, I am not condoning cutting. I AM, however, trying to explain why hatred against those who cut is wrong. I feel like a regular Dorthea Dix.

And one final note; name-calling is a bad way to debate. I've seen several posts around asking why no one is getting involved in any of the debates. You want to know why? Because no one wants to be told that they're stupid for being human and holding an opinion. Wow... that's revolutionary, right there. I don't really mean to pick on you individually, arucard665+1, but yours is the post that finally broke the proverbial straw on the camel's back. It just hurts to see so many people who just don't understand and are unwittingly sending people to hell because of it.

what?? Dorthea Dix has nothing to do with Christians being ignorant.


She was a champion for mentally ill patients, somewhat the same as me trying to make people less ignorant of those who have mental illnesses (in this case, cutting and all the different disorders that it could belong to). I say it somewhat sarcastically, since I know that I can't be as great as her.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:31 pm


It's definitly not good, but I understand how it feels and how hard it is to stop... I used to cut alot. At first it was just little "cat scratches" but over time I started to go deeper. Once I even filed ( if that's the right terminoligy> basicly it looked like a red spider web on my arm, and that's not even half, but I think 'll skip ahead a year. a couple months ago my parents found out that I hd been cutting. Long story short I got yelled at and my mom made me feel like s**t. Then insead of cutting I started to punch walls and trees antill my anger was sorted out, which took a while and when I finished my knuckles were torn up prity bad. Then my parents found out about that and I got yelled at again, so I told them I souldn't do anything like that again, but I couldn't stop. Acouple weeks later I siced my belly really bad. It was brutal. I had to go to the hosbital and my mom yelled at me again ( which never really helps), I got 11 stiches. Then my parents told my brother without me knowing and I made a mistake by telling my friends. So Now Most of my school thinks I'm a psico and my theripist tried to send me to an insane asylum. Instead I took one of those ink blot tests and the result was tht becouse of some of the things that happend to me when I was realy young, I have problems seperating fiction from reality. Anyway, I just wanted to say what I did to stop. Firts I put myself on blade probation, then I tried to listen to more positive music (I'm realy glad I started to listen to new stuff and I still listen to metal and other music I liked before my probition). Then I stated to think about others instead of thinking about myself all the time (not to imply that cutters only think about themselves). Finaly whenever I started to feel like cutting, I close y eyes and this is gana sound dumb but I talk to god. Without the last part I'm prity sure I'd be dead. Also, if there's someone you realy trust you can talk to him/her, or you could vent online.

Ps
sorry if I'm not makeing sence, I do that sometimes. Aso sorry for the spelling

GrimPumkin


Servio Memoria

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:37 pm


XPenguinsX
i'm guilty as well...i find out tomorrow what is the cause of it though...i have too many different symptoms to know....hopefully the doctor does.

guilty as well... but it isn't necessarily something a doctor can fix
PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:24 pm


GrimPumkin
It's definitly not good, but I understand how it feels and how hard it is to stop... I used to cut alot. At first it was just little "cat scratches" but over time I started to go deeper. Once I even filed ( if that's the right terminoligy> basicly it looked like a red spider web on my arm, and that's not even half, but I think 'll skip ahead a year. a couple months ago my parents found out that I hd been cutting. Long story short I got yelled at and my mom made me feel like s**t. Then insead of cutting I started to punch walls and trees antill my anger was sorted out, which took a while and when I finished my knuckles were torn up prity bad. Then my parents found out about that and I got yelled at again, so I told them I souldn't do anything like that again, but I couldn't stop. Acouple weeks later I siced my belly really bad. It was brutal. I had to go to the hosbital and my mom yelled at me again ( which never really helps), I got 11 stiches. Then my parents told my brother without me knowing and I made a mistake by telling my friends. So Now Most of my school thinks I'm a psico and my theripist tried to send me to an insane asylum. Instead I took one of those ink blot tests and the result was tht becouse of some of the things that happend to me when I was realy young, I have problems seperating fiction from reality. Anyway, I just wanted to say what I did to stop. Firts I put myself on blade probation, then I tried to listen to more positive music (I'm realy glad I started to listen to new stuff and I still listen to metal and other music I liked before my probition). Then I stated to think about others instead of thinking about myself all the time (not to imply that cutters only think about themselves). Finaly whenever I started to feel like cutting, I close y eyes and this is gana sound dumb but I talk to god. Without the last part I'm prity sure I'd be dead. Also, if there's someone you realy trust you can talk to him/her, or you could vent online.

Ps
sorry if I'm not makeing sence, I do that sometimes. Aso sorry for the spelling


agreed

prettykitty83105


danz4life200

PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:32 pm


GrimPumkin
It's definitly not good, but I understand how it feels and how hard it is to stop... I used to cut alot. At first it was just little "cat scratches" but over time I started to go deeper. Once I even filed ( if that's the right terminoligy> basicly it looked like a red spider web on my arm, and that's not even half, but I think 'll skip ahead a year. a couple months ago my parents found out that I hd been cutting. Long story short I got yelled at and my mom made me feel like s**t. Then insead of cutting I started to punch walls and trees antill my anger was sorted out, which took a while and when I finished my knuckles were torn up prity bad. Then my parents found out about that and I got yelled at again, so I told them I souldn't do anything like that again, but I couldn't stop. Acouple weeks later I siced my belly really bad. It was brutal. I had to go to the hosbital and my mom yelled at me again ( which never really helps), I got 11 stiches. Then my parents told my brother without me knowing and I made a mistake by telling my friends. So Now Most of my school thinks I'm a psico and my theripist tried to send me to an insane asylum. Instead I took one of those ink blot tests and the result was tht becouse of some of the things that happend to me when I was realy young, I have problems seperating fiction from reality. Anyway, I just wanted to say what I did to stop. Firts I put myself on blade probation, then I tried to listen to more positive music (I'm realy glad I started to listen to new stuff and I still listen to metal and other music I liked before my probition). Then I stated to think about others instead of thinking about myself all the time (not to imply that cutters only think about themselves). Finaly whenever I started to feel like cutting, I close y eyes and this is gana sound dumb but I talk to god. Without the last part I'm prity sure I'd be dead. Also, if there's someone you realy trust you can talk to him/her, or you could vent online.

Ps
sorry if I'm not makeing sence, I do that sometimes. Aso sorry for the spelling



I totally agree with youu on the music! Be careful what you listen to, it can drag you down
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:55 pm


Oh yea. Something that helps me when I feel really down is to say to myself that everything is going to be fine and that this feeling will pass. Also what you can do is go into your room and cry. I kow that comeing from a guy that might sound wierd but somtimes when I feel depressed it's because I'm holding emotions in. Just remimber that people care about you.

as alawys.... sorry about my spelling ( I need to get some kind of spellcheck)

GrimPumkin


Gaylord Mule 3

PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 5:38 pm


i was looking back through some old word docs on my computer and found something i think every cutter should have a look at.


A Cutters Regret
By: Thomas Coffin (AKA Lazarus The Resurected)

I look down at my arm
At the lattice work of scars
Like the old abandoned trenches
Of long forgotten wars
The conflicts in my head
The anguish in my heart
I think of all the times
I ripped myself apart
The battle is long over
But the wounds all still remain
I sacrificed my flesh
In my campaign for pain
I wish I could go back
To take the blade away
To just hold that poor boy
To look at him and say
Look at me my young friend
What is it you see?
You’ll turn out allright
For you’ll grow into me
But I don’t like my self now
The younger me would say
I cannot deal with all this hurt
I just want it to go away
Kid I know it looks bad
But look here at my arm
Think about these scars
And don’t bring yourself to harm
But alas I can’t go back
I cannot change the past
I guess I’ll just have to wait
And see how long scars last.
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