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 Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:41 pm
fallen_vampire_immortal First of all Muhammed even if hes dead offending him is like abusing your dead mother Plus Dead family and friends and God-Knows what .Second of all all Prophets were Muslims, From Adam to Muhammed. You're an idiot. Islam didn't even exist in the times of Adam, so um... he wasn't Muslim. Neither was Abraham or Ishmael or Jesus, who is a Prophet in Islam. rolleyes The only Prophet that was truly a Muslim, as in capital M Muslim, was Muhammad.
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:35 am
Why are Muslim countries so aggressive? especially towars their neighbours like India and Israel? is it because they aren't muslims?
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:39 am
comfortably_dumb fallen_vampire_immortal First of all Muhammed even if hes dead offending him is like abusing your dead mother Plus Dead family and friends and God-Knows what .Second of all all Prophets were Muslims, From Adam to Muhammed. You're an idiot. Islam didn't even exist in the times of Adam, so um... he wasn't Muslim. Neither was Abraham or Ishmael or Jesus, who is a Prophet in Islam. rolleyes The only Prophet that was truly a Muslim, as in capital M Muslim, was Muhammad. Well, muslims actually believe in the same god as jews and christians, but they think the bible has become distorted, and the koran is an attempt to correct that.
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:42 pm
Prince Ronan the Catholic Why are Muslim countries so aggressive? especially towars their neighbours like India and Israel? is it because they aren't muslims? aggresive... well i think so too... agresive to what...? india? hell no.. since when? to US / Israel? yes... i mean israel is occupying palestine (curently) ,,, can u blame palestine freedom fighters for defending their land? no... can u blame israel that wants to be able to live in their holly land again? no.. do you think palestine will say "ok we understand that its ur holly land that u left thousands years ago... so we will leave our home now"... no... (note : that that land is also sacred for the muslims) i just hope there will be leaders among them to be able to bring peace to both side.... just like Salahuddin Ayyubi
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:55 pm
fallen_vampire_immortal I dont get it.There are so many miracles of Allah and still the disbeleivers dont come to our religon.The Sand fountain, the girl who cried sharp crystals, the boy who had Allah written on his ear, he mosques who stood after the tsunamis and earthquakes.etc. No offence to disbeleivers but my Islamiat sir told me the Christians make their own religon up.Soon they might be starting to worship Elisha. I am not going to offend anyones religon because it is a bad thing to do so.It might bring me a few steps closer to Hell (Jahannum).
Ever heard of Lord of the Rings?
Yeah, some people believe that to also be a prophecy or some miracle but that doesn't make it true.
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:16 am
Artto comfortably_dumb fallen_vampire_immortal First of all Muhammed even if hes dead offending him is like abusing your dead mother Plus Dead family and friends and God-Knows what .Second of all all Prophets were Muslims, From Adam to Muhammed. You're an idiot. Islam didn't even exist in the times of Adam, so um... he wasn't Muslim. Neither was Abraham or Ishmael or Jesus, who is a Prophet in Islam. rolleyes The only Prophet that was truly a Muslim, as in capital M Muslim, was Muhammad. Well, muslims actually believe in the same god as jews and christians, but they think the bible has become distorted, and the koran is an attempt to correct that. Yes, which makes perfect sense... only not.
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:51 pm
comfortably_dumb Artto comfortably_dumb fallen_vampire_immortal First of all Muhammed even if hes dead offending him is like abusing your dead mother Plus Dead family and friends and God-Knows what .Second of all all Prophets were Muslims, From Adam to Muhammed. You're an idiot. Islam didn't even exist in the times of Adam, so um... he wasn't Muslim. Neither was Abraham or Ishmael or Jesus, who is a Prophet in Islam. rolleyes The only Prophet that was truly a Muslim, as in capital M Muslim, was Muhammad. Well, muslims actually believe in the same god as Jews and christians, but they think the bible has become distorted, and the koran is an attempt to correct that. Yes, which makes perfect sense... only not. Salaam , allow me to explain it in a hopefully more coherent and less aggressive manner than either of you are. The Muslim belief is there is One God "Allah" (Arabic for God) who was the God that made creation, Adam, Eve, Ibliss(Satan) The angels, heaven and earth the lot. The one who sent down Prophets to all of mankind From Adam, through Noah, To Jesus and Mohammed(Peace be Upon them all). Islam means litteraly "Submission(To Allah)" and a Muslim is therefore one who Submits (Mu being an Arabic equivalent of the english Er Kill-Killer)To Allah. It is a fact that prophets were ones who Submitted themselves in body and faith to God, and God alone. Therefore every prophet was a Muslim, a Muslim being literally "One Who submits to God" The obvious difference is that unlike our sister religions, we believe Mohammed was the final Prophet, unlike Christianity(Jesus) and Judaism (Malachi) You may not agree with it, but you cannot say it is Illogical or non-sensicle
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:26 pm
Four Mile Sprint comfortably_dumb Artto comfortably_dumb fallen_vampire_immortal First of all Muhammed even if hes dead offending him is like abusing your dead mother Plus Dead family and friends and God-Knows what .Second of all all Prophets were Muslims, From Adam to Muhammed. You're an idiot. Islam didn't even exist in the times of Adam, so um... he wasn't Muslim. Neither was Abraham or Ishmael or Jesus, who is a Prophet in Islam. rolleyes The only Prophet that was truly a Muslim, as in capital M Muslim, was Muhammad. Well, muslims actually believe in the same god as Jews and christians, but they think the bible has become distorted, and the koran is an attempt to correct that. Yes, which makes perfect sense... only not. Salaam , allow me to explain it in a hopefully more coherent and less aggressive manner than either of you are. The Muslim belief is there is One God "Allah" (Arabic for God) who was the God that made creation, Adam, Eve, Ibliss(Satan) The angels, heaven and earth the lot. The one who sent down Prophets to all of mankind From Adam, through Noah, To Jesus and Mohammed(Peace be Upon them all). Islam means litteraly "Submission(To Allah)" and a Muslim is therefore one who Submits (Mu being an Arabic equivalent of the english Er Kill-Killer)To Allah. It is a fact that prophets were ones who Submitted themselves in body and faith to God, and God alone. Therefore every prophet was a Muslim, a Muslim being literally "One Who submits to God" The obvious difference is that unlike our sister religions, we believe Mohammed was the final Prophet, unlike Christianity(Jesus) and Judaism (Malachi) You may not agree with it, but you cannot say it is Illogical or non-sensicle
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Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:36 pm
Saddest Shade of Kitsune Four Mile Sprint comfortably_dumb Artto comfortably_dumb fallen_vampire_immortal First of all Muhammed even if hes dead offending him is like abusing your dead mother Plus Dead family and friends and God-Knows what .Second of all all Prophets were Muslims, From Adam to Muhammed. You're an idiot. Islam didn't even exist in the times of Adam, so um... he wasn't Muslim. Neither was Abraham or Ishmael or Jesus, who is a Prophet in Islam. rolleyes The only Prophet that was truly a Muslim, as in capital M Muslim, was Muhammad. Well, muslims actually believe in the same god as Jews and christians, but they think the bible has become distorted, and the koran is an attempt to correct that. Yes, which makes perfect sense... only not. Salaam , allow me to explain it in a hopefully more coherent and less aggressive manner than either of you are. The Muslim belief is there is One God "Allah" (Arabic for God) who was the God that made creation, Adam, Eve, Ibliss(Satan) The angels, heaven and earth the lot. The one who sent down Prophets to all of mankind From Adam, through Noah, To Jesus and Mohammed(Peace be Upon them all). Islam means litteraly "Submission(To Allah)" and a Muslim is therefore one who Submits (Mu being an Arabic equivalent of the english Er Kill-Killer)To Allah. It is a fact that prophets were ones who Submitted themselves in body and faith to God, and God alone. Therefore every prophet was a Muslim, a Muslim being literally "One Who submits to God" The obvious difference is that unlike our sister religions, we believe Mohammed was the final Prophet, unlike Christianity(Jesus) and Judaism (Malachi) You may not agree with it, but you cannot say it is Illogical or non-sensicle Christians believe Adam ate the fruit. I don't know where you got that we don't believe that. And I think God forgave Adam and Eve because He spilled an innocent's animal's blood to make their clothes. I think He allowed them to be forgiven in this way. So basically, their aren't any fallacies there. And I've heard Muslims believe that both the Bible and Torah got it wrong, and the Quran is an attempt to set things right. How do you explain two Holy Books being incorrect? And why is Muhammed important? What marks him out as special, considering that there are no prophecies about a special last prophet, and no one else verified what he saw. The entire religion is based around a man who claimed to have a few dreams, and most likely profited from these claims. He easily could've lied. Plus, Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, and in Islam He gets downgraded to 'prophet'. How does that work? Was He a liar? I honestly am curious what the explanations are.
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:44 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Saddest Shade of Kitsune Four Mile Sprint comfortably_dumb Artto Well, muslims actually believe in the same god as Jews and christians, but they think the bible has become distorted, and the koran is an attempt to correct that. Yes, which makes perfect sense... only not. Salaam , allow me to explain it in a hopefully more coherent and less aggressive manner than either of you are. The Muslim belief is there is One God "Allah" (Arabic for God) who was the God that made creation, Adam, Eve, Ibliss(Satan) The angels, heaven and earth the lot. The one who sent down Prophets to all of mankind From Adam, through Noah, To Jesus and Mohammed(Peace be Upon them all). Islam means litteraly "Submission(To Allah)" and a Muslim is therefore one who Submits (Mu being an Arabic equivalent of the english Er Kill-Killer)To Allah. It is a fact that prophets were ones who Submitted themselves in body and faith to God, and God alone. Therefore every prophet was a Muslim, a Muslim being literally "One Who submits to God" The obvious difference is that unlike our sister religions, we believe Mohammed was the final Prophet, unlike Christianity(Jesus) and Judaism (Malachi) You may not agree with it, but you cannot say it is Illogical or non-sensicle Christians believe Adam ate the fruit. I don't know where you got that we don't believe that. And I think God forgave Adam and Eve because He spilled an innocent's animal's blood to make their clothes. I think He allowed them to be forgiven in this way. So basically, their aren't any fallacies there. And I've heard Muslims believe that both the Bible and Torah got it wrong, and the Quran is an attempt to set things right. How do you explain two Holy Books being incorrect? And why is Muhammed important? What marks him out as special, considering that there are no prophecies about a special last prophet, and no one else verified what he saw. The entire religion is based around a man who claimed to have a few dreams, and most likely profited from these claims. He easily could've lied. Plus, Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, and in Islam He gets downgraded to 'prophet'. How does that work? Was He a liar? I honestly am curious what the explanations are.
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 5:44 pm
Saddest Shade of Kitsune I've never heard that they believed Adam ate it...I've always read that Eve went off & was tempted by Satan's whisperings (appearing as a snake), but then brought it to Adam. But initially she was tempted which we don't believe to be true. Go & look it up if you don't believe me. Genesis 3:6-7 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves. Both of them ate the fruit. Also, if you don't believe Eve was tempted to eat the fruit, why did she eat it? Saddest Shade of Kitsune & also in the Christian belief, God used Jesus as the way to spill blood to have forgiveness to mankind, as they believe he was the only one good enough to be sacrificed to save them all-- AKA: the reason he is called the savior by the Christians. Once again, this is correct. Trust me, I've studied all this well, back when I wasn't a Muslim. While this is correct, you seem to be assuming that Christians believe that nobody before Christ could be forgiven by God, or at least that without Christ, they couldn't be forgiven (if you allow for Christ's sacrifice to be non-temporal) However, some Christians (not sure if all believe this, but odds are someone out there disagrees) do actually acknowledge the covenant God had with the Jews as being legit in gaining forgiveness, just not in gaining eternal life. This means that all the sacrifices and what not in the OT would gain God's forgiveness, in which case, the spilling of the animal's blood could have gained forgiveness for Adam and Eve.
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:42 pm
Saddest Shade of Kitsune xxEternallyBluexx Saddest Shade of Kitsune Four Mile Sprint comfortably_dumb Artto Well, muslims actually believe in the same god as Jews and christians, but they think the bible has become distorted, and the koran is an attempt to correct that. Yes, which makes perfect sense... only not. Salaam , allow me to explain it in a hopefully more coherent and less aggressive manner than either of you are. The Muslim belief is there is One God "Allah" (Arabic for God) who was the God that made creation, Adam, Eve, Ibliss(Satan) The angels, heaven and earth the lot. The one who sent down Prophets to all of mankind From Adam, through Noah, To Jesus and Mohammed(Peace be Upon them all). Islam means litteraly "Submission(To Allah)" and a Muslim is therefore one who Submits (Mu being an Arabic equivalent of the english Er Kill-Killer)To Allah. It is a fact that prophets were ones who Submitted themselves in body and faith to God, and God alone. Therefore every prophet was a Muslim, a Muslim being literally "One Who submits to God" The obvious difference is that unlike our sister religions, we believe Mohammed was the final Prophet, unlike Christianity(Jesus) and Judaism (Malachi) You may not agree with it, but you cannot say it is Illogical or non-sensicle Christians believe Adam ate the fruit. I don't know where you got that we don't believe that. And I think God forgave Adam and Eve because He spilled an innocent's animal's blood to make their clothes. I think He allowed them to be forgiven in this way. So basically, their aren't any fallacies there. And I've heard Muslims believe that both the Bible and Torah got it wrong, and the Quran is an attempt to set things right. How do you explain two Holy Books being incorrect? And why is Muhammed important? What marks him out as special, considering that there are no prophecies about a special last prophet, and no one else verified what he saw. The entire religion is based around a man who claimed to have a few dreams, and most likely profited from these claims. He easily could've lied. Plus, Jesus claimed to be the Messiah, and in Islam He gets downgraded to 'prophet'. How does that work? Was He a liar? I honestly am curious what the explanations are. Actually Eve was tempted while Adam was right by her, and she ate of it; then she offered it to him. At least, that's what I read somewhere by someone who studied the original Hebrew... I know you think they were changed. I don't understand why, or why a book written by a single man was sent to correct them. It actually would go against the grain if God did it that way, because with the OT and the NT He had multiple writers and accounts go into those books. Actually, Islam was probably the fulfillment to Abraham's other son Ishmael, and so even right there you can see evidence that Islam wasn't going to be the true religion. The Bible didn't say there would be a last prophet. People in Christianity can still prophesize. People at my church do. And actually Muhammed became very rich off the religion, and where are you getting that he was trustworthy? Are there any other accounts who have met the man who say he was, besides Muhammed? Please do. ^^ I'd like to see how it was incorrectly translated. He didn't 'have' a Son, the Son always was, like the Father. What I'm about to post next is just a theory, and not endorsed by the church, I think, so don't take it as something even I'm stating is truth. It's just a good theory. I got it from the Shack: God had to be three in one, the Trinity, to have love as we know it. Before we were even here, the Son had the Father, and the Father had the Son, and their relationship might've been so strong that we got the Holy Spirit, much the way two people who know each other have a slight spirit between them. They were unselfish love in themselves because of the whole nature of the Trinity. If we didn't have a God with love as the center of His Nature, the universe couldn't be as beautiful as it is, and love would be so much faker.
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:31 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Actually, Islam was probably the fulfillment to Abraham's other son Ishmael, and so even right there you can see evidence that Islam wasn't going to be the true religion. Why is this evidence against Islam being true?
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 5:42 pm
garra_eyes xxEternallyBluexx Actually, Islam was probably the fulfillment to Abraham's other son Ishmael, and so even right there you can see evidence that Islam wasn't going to be the true religion. Why is this evidence against Islam being true? Because God favored Issac, and so He'd probably reveal the truth to the line He favored most. The original statement was bad phrasing on my part though. sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:33 pm
xxEternallyBluexx garra_eyes xxEternallyBluexx Actually, Islam was probably the fulfillment to Abraham's other son Ishmael, and so even right there you can see evidence that Islam wasn't going to be the true religion. Why is this evidence against Islam being true? Because God favored Issac, and so He'd probably reveal the truth to the line He favored most. The original statement was bad phrasing on my part though. sweatdrop Why not reveal the truth to both? I mean, why be stingy about it? Edit: note that I know very little about this period of biblical history, so please bear with me.
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