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You're right! I don't understand how people can't see that their need to make us understand why their lifestyles are right is any different than our need to share our beliefs through witnessing.

Where did this whole thing about christains being the most persecuted group WTF are you kidding me, you may have youre haters but you are probably one of the biggest groups out there and there are so many of you that its all the other religions that feel persecuted and opressed, which is why they lash out at you

For one my religion states that your jesus is a traitor, muder and heratic so yes in youre eyes im going to hell, the only saviour ill accpet is the first empress and may her loving heart look out over all those who choose to do good in life

But why does youre religion demand that you destroy all other religions, it also says that there is no other god or godess other then himself ........... youre god sounds like an egotistic homicidal maniac stare and there is no way that im capitalizing thw word god, ill only capitalize the names of my own gods, godess and demi-gods

im not going to argue about the whole homosexuality thing sense none of you that are against it are going to change youre mind, all i have to say is this .............. what if it was wrong for you to be straight (this is a scenario) how do you think you would feel hugh, you have no right to say who a person can love and who they cant

what i ment was, you dont have to go into huge long conversations about it, oh you can mention it and maybe have a brief conversation or two on it, but unless someone asks you to go into a lengthy conversations on it youre not supposed to

other religions are NOT obsticles, they are actually other beliefs that we can learn from and enjoy sense a multitude of rleigions is better then just one

how can you accpet everyones beliefs if you call there belifes evil and you dont even accpet the existance of there dietys and etc ?

aithiests attack christianity becuase they now realize all the faults it has, im not saying that other religions dont have faults but athiesim does NOT have any faults sense they believe in only science and the world around them.

We dont care about hell, and if we dont believe in it, there is no possible way for us to go there sense our own divinitys will do there own thing in our after lives if that religion has an afterlife

well im sorry to say but not all christians are as nice as you, they are constantly parading ther religion in front of me and saying im going to hell and they are constantly insulting every religion that is not theres, and they are still christians, you can say oh they arent like me so there not part of my religion, becuase they still believe in the same stuff as you and that makes them a part of youre religion

if you want me to stop then rewrite youre bible and convince all of the prejiduce rude christians to stop being that way

um.yea i just studied christian school and i knoe how they worship God but stl im catholic but kinda thesame with christian peoples the only gap is the Christians is a straight to GOd.but catholic myself...is we have images that symbolize God...
but i love catholic and christians....
but exept for muslims..and etc..
but not really.
that im hating there God but i just hate is that muslims dont eat such as a pork coz they valued pork.haha.kinda lol ryt? some says.pork are their GODs..
omgosh!haha..its not its an animal..haha. rofl

I GIVE UP, YOU GUYS ARE STUBBORN AND YOU WONT EVEN LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY, ALL YOU DO IS GO AHEAD AND SAY OH WE DO THIS BECUASE BLAH BLAH BLAH AND THEN YOU GET MAD AT ME BECUASE I COUNTER THAT REASON OR NEGATE IT

if you want people to stop stareotyping you , then stop stareotyping them
if you want people to leave you alone, then leave them alone
science has only one fault, and that is that it is always in the stage were something new can be found out about a subject so its always being added to or changed, but thats a good thing, christianity is not flexible like science, it cant be bent or added to, to reflect what new things have been found or found wrong

You say that I or we are not listening. When if fact, it is you who is not listening. You are the one who is not bending. You are the hyprocrite and you have not given yourself a good name for you are naive.

How about this:

If you want us to bend/change, you need to bend/change.

Stop being a hypocrite and grow up. And, btw, this fact has absolutly nothing to do with your religion. I'm not judging you because now I know how you are





You do realize the same must go for you, right? You are giving us all these things to do, when you yourself are unwilling to do it

There is a word used to describe the type of person you mention, they are called steam rollers.

People who believe they can beat you in an argument by being louder, and half the time don't even bother to debunk or attack the issue you present, but try to belittle and degrade you to try and make your point seem pointless.

There is a way to deal with these type of people. It is a three step method which works most of the time, but is still very effective.

Step 1. you bargan with the steam roller. Set the rules for the conversation, allow him his moment to get his point across, then he/she allows you to. Most of the time the Steam Roller will not go for this and as soon as you start with your point he/she will try and cut you off. If this happens, stop them politely and say, "I gave you your moment to get your point across, now it is my turn. Once I've finished with my point then you can talk." Sometimes this works, and puts them in place so you can get your word out without interruption. But if they continue then you move on to step 2.

Step 2. You shame them. If they keep cutting you off, belittling you and degrading you when you try and make your point, you shame them, say, "I was fair and gave you your moments to talk, yet you are being rude and continue to cut me off or try and belittle me to avoid the topic at hand. I would love to continue this conversation but we can't have a good one if you keep acting like this." But make sure to do this in a stern and gentle voice, not angrily or agressively. If they keep up their method of yelling, belittling, and cutting you off in the middle of your turn to try and make your point, you go to step three which never fails.

Step 3. Just walk away. It is not worth your time or effort dealing with people who have no interest in listening to your points and have the only goal of trying to tear you and your belief down. People who are genuinly interested in having a good conversation where you can share your different views in a non-threatening manner will work with you to make sure the conversation is fair and right for both sides. But it's not worth it to stay around, get in a yelling match with a steam roller and get angry and yell back at them. It's as the old saying goes, you can lead the mule to the water, but you can't force him to drink it. It is better for you, and christianity overall to avoid people like this, and focus on sharing and spreading the word of the Gospel to those who want to listen.

But remember, when you engage with someone like this, you have to set it up fairly. Don't ignore what he/she has to say, listen. Some people will start step one, and will jump the gun to step two without properly listening to or trying to have a good conversation with the other person. Trust and respect isn't given, it's earned. If you allow them to speak and truly listen to what they have to say, then they will be more willing to listen to your response.

Here are few videos that I found. I think we should all watch them if we're going to continue this conversation.

This one's 10 mistakes Atheists make when talking to Christians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrdNW4E7gM0&feature=fvw

And this is mistakes Christians make when talking to Atheists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHEGe2rrR-A&feature=channel

They're sort of long, but they have some good points. *Jumps on a chair and points to #1 in both*