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 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:19 pm
Tsunade is completely OP when it comes to healing. She can spontaneously regenerate after just a day with that dot on her forehead. Using her for that example is like using Superman for anything.
You answered this one with your first comment, Ninja Magic.
I... I don't really understand, but maybe if Yasashii and Raphael speak to each other one can understand the other's reasoning. But yeah, if Yasashii won't teach him, he'll just learn from scrolls. Much more boring, but I like Raphael as a skinless mummy. Kinda fitting since he lives in Sunagakure and will more than likely never leave the village if he has the option. Or if he does, he'll use the Henge technique to give himself the body he used to have. But in seal form so he can avoid constant upkeep costs. Heck, him and Yasashii could create this seal together so that Yasashii doesn't have to stare at Raphael, and Raphael can remain skinless, like some good chicken.
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Okay, because I think it would be extremely crucial, like if we want to break a building, having a fifteen feet in diameter fireball isn't really what you'd want. xD
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:57 pm
Actually, I think Tsunade's healing ability is fair. Sacrifice portions of your chakra over a period of time. Then, when you're critically injured all that chakra can be used to instantly recover.
I'm actually working on a seal that stores small quantities of medical chakra as we speak/type.
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:12 pm
And i was thinking about a seal that stores sound/sound based attacks [ Roars, shrieks, ect ] that aren't jutsu to be released at a moment's notice. That works nicely since I'm trying to get him a sound-based pair of dragons. For any of you that have played Monster Hunter, the Diablos and Monoblos.
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:12 pm
It is about as fair as Raphael sporting Chakra Seals and storing all of his chakra in it until he has to fight, then having about 5 times the allowed amount of chakra. Except she uses it to cure mortal wounds instead of become as powerful as someone who just chugged an entire barrel of Spirit Water.
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:26 pm
The reason I don't think it's OP is because it it only used for healing. The only thing that could be considered OP about it is it's duration but you have to consider that she has been storing chakra for years, if not decades.
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:40 pm
Yeah, but you've got to remember that if it was implemented in the guild, You can't go for decades using the technique.
EDIT:
Completely blanked, I meant to say that It is basically a get out of heaven/hell free card.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:43 am
Just want to say that I agree with most of Hinote's points issued about your post earlier. You misconstrued Yasashi's instruction and a lot more about the mission. Though, I think expulsion from the shinobi forces might go a little far just because you are scarred. You could still serve in various other ways, but you are bottle-necking yourself with your decision.
I can't believe your character didn't know the destruction an explosion tag held. Everyone knows that... even citizens know that... that's why the crowd was terrified when 3 hostages had them put on their mouths. Raphael knew WITHOUT a doubt that he could die on the mission... and yet somehow he didn't know tags could be so deadly? Not buying it.
But, do as you will. It's your character, always was, always will be. You've spurned mine and Hinote's advice to you more then a dozen times now, so I'll no longer try to convince you one way or another. Just don't misconstrue good counsel for coercion. Neither Hinote or myself have ever tried to make you do something, we've only ever offered paths for your character that we thought would be better for your roleplaying enjoyment/growth in the long run. Not sure why you fight us so adamantly at every turn, but it is your right to do so, so there it is.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:24 am
TvIaMsOqTuHeYz Tsunade is completely OP when it comes to healing. She can spontaneously regenerate after just a day with that dot on her forehead. Using her for that example is like using Superman for anything. You answered this one with your first comment, Ninja Magic. I... I don't really understand, but maybe if Yasashii and Raphael speak to each other one can understand the other's reasoning. But yeah, if Yasashii won't teach him, he'll just learn from scrolls. Much more boring, but I like Raphael as a skinless mummy. Kinda fitting since he lives in Sunagakure and will more than likely never leave the village if he has the option. Or if he does, he'll use the Henge technique to give himself the body he used to have. But in seal form so he can avoid constant upkeep costs. Heck, him and Yasashii could create this seal together so that Yasashii doesn't have to stare at Raphael, and Raphael can remain skinless, like some good chicken. ~ Okay, because I think it would be extremely crucial, like if we want to break a building, having a fifteen feet in diameter fireball isn't really what you'd want. xD I used Tsunade in comparison to an average ninja of the same talent set. Example works, even if she is OP. You do realize that ninja magic has no bearing whatsoever if ninjutsu isn't used, right? If you choose to heal normally, without ninjutsu, you don't get the bonus of ninja magic. It's not a passive ability. I don't think I can explain Yasashii's feelings on the matter any better than I already have... ~ Building demolition isn't commonly done with a single explosive. You use arrays of carefully positioned small explosives to take out the weak points of a building and bring it down. A single bomb capable of destroying an entire building would be incredibly powerful, and would in fact have not only destroyed your entire body at that range, but burnt away anything that was left as well. ~ Anyways, I hate to say it, but I think I'm gonna go with Cobra on this one. I've tried to explain everything several times, but even when I state outright fact you keep making it sound like just my opinion and turning it aside. If you decide you want help, I'll always be here, but that's dependent on your willingness to accept it. So, from now on, you're on your own. But that won't stop me from RPing my own characters, and running any relevant portions of my village in the ways I deem appropriate. I'm not going to actively try to disrupt your plans, but if they run counter to the direction of the village, well, something's going to bend, and it won't be me.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:47 am
My two cents on building demolition. This is the only jutsu in the guild described to be used for such an event. It is S-ranked. And also the one I used to destroy the Kazekage tower to give you a range of how strong a single jutsu meant to demolish is:
Raiden no Moui (Raiden's Fury)
Description: A technique often used for the sake of demolitions purposes, the user flashes a number of seals and finally ends the series with an odd looking seal that auspiciously looks like the seal that the Yamanaka use for their own techniques. The user of this technique now must keep his eyes set on one specific object that he can see through this seal for the next two minutes, if he moves or does anything else but aim during this period the technique is cancelled. After this, the skies suddenly open up, and a huge beam of white lightning strikes where the user was aiming, decimating the target and causing powerful shockwaves to affect the area 500 feet from the point of impact, most likely decimating anything with a foundation. One can generally tell that this technique is occurring by the fact that the skies turn black, thunder begins sounding, and it starts to rain during the time of preparation as well as a sudden increase of heat.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:33 pm
I created a jutsu a long time ago whose sole purpose, or at least, most effective purpose was to destroy buildings:
Kaze Taihou (Air Cannon)
Rank: A
Description: After performing the necessary hand seals, the user widens their stance and holds their arms out to the sides with their palms forward (as if hugging an imaginary boulder). Their entire body then emits a blast of wind, which takes the shape of a ball of super compressed wind which will self-destructs upon contact with an object. The explosion sends high-speed vibrations through the target, attempting to crack it apart, as the winds lash mercilessly at the structure to blow the pieces apart. This technique can knock out solid walls of stone, and can topple small buildings without much trouble. It is also very useful against armors or solid barriers, but not so much against softer targets, which it would just knock backwards.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:01 pm
Huh, go figure. It isn't in the main guild fuuton list so I didn't see clearly. I like it though.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:18 pm
@ Cobra
I know. The Talent Bottle Necks me even more, since he won't be able to be out in the open during the day in Sunagakure for more than five posts. ( Yep, going for a difficult play on Raphael. )
No, They know it blows up. They don't know the radius, nor the concussive power. They know that the explosion could be large, but more than likely they were backed that far away because the man told them to get back and they didn't want to be splattered with blood. Raphael didn't know the dimensions of the explosion. Does Enro know the EXACT radius of the blast zone? Does anyone who isn't exposed to the seal more than, " Hey, this is a seal that goes boom! " It just isn't practical for Raphael ( Who has a basic knowledge of seals ) to have known that the blast radius was a 15 foot fireball with concussive force within the blast radius. Just like I don't expect you to know Java Coding Language, despite the fact you work with computers. ( I'm assuming you have an office job based on the fact you work in a cubicle from what you described before. ) I'm being fairly realistic, or at least my personal view of realistic.
I fight so adamantly because if we meet in the roleplay, you even drag it in at that point. I know you and Hinote aren't that closed minded, so why do you appear so closed minded within the roleplay?
@ Hinote
I guess I can see that.
I never said that. I said he didn't want his body to be fully restored. If they aid in giving him the small bit he would have regained naturally, then He'll take that. He just doesn't want his entire body to be restored, he doesn't want a skin graft. ( Which at this point is the only thing that would give him actual skin. )
Ah, I see then. I guess it'll just be one of those things I don't quite get. ^>^
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Oh, of course! I meant ones that don't have a fifteen feet fireball, but just as much concussive force. I mean a single seal doing that would be OP beyond belief. I'm meaning have a seal that is capable of being calibrated as far as the fireball aspect, and possibly the concussive force.
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If there is a clash of interest, then Raphael will simply leave. It isn't that hard a decision for him to make. He has little to no ties within the village anymore. If his shinobi career falls through, then he'll simply move on. He can't go back to his old life, seeing as he's scarred for life now. Either he'll leave without a fuss, or if you try to stop him, he'll turn around and then learn some techniques until he can leave. Or he'll get killed by Tachi or someone else and that'll be that.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:39 pm
TvIaMsOqTuHeYz I fight so adamantly because if we meet in the roleplay, you even drag it in at that point. I know you and Hinote aren't that closed minded, so why do you appear so closed minded within the roleplay? I typed up a long response to this, then deleted it. There is simply no point in arguing any further. Think what you want to think... you were going to from the start anyway, no matter what anyone else said.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:51 pm
Quite contrary to what you're believing, I think about what you and hinote say, and most of the time I don't quite understand it, or it just doesn't click at the time.
To me Kye came off as " I'm not going to let you do this. " So naturally I could only take that as you're trying to push Raphael in that direction. There wasn't any " Why did you do this? " Or " Can you explain why you're missing your skin? " No, you just jumped straight into " You're wrong I'm right, decide to either accept my logic, or I'm not going to play with you. " It is quite literally the mentality of a schoolyard Bully. I can only assume you're not a schoolyard bully, nor have you ever been one. But to me, at least as far as my perception goes, that is EXACTLY what you're portraying. You're saying your logic is infallible while mine is completely flawed.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:24 pm
See, this is the problem. Never once did Kye say "Im not going to let you do this."... and yet that is what you THINK she was saying. Where you got that, no one knows... but it is unequivocally incorrect. Its not a debate, there's no room for subjective perspective... you interpreted her words incorrectly. This wouldn't be a big deal normally, except you do it constantly... and then you spend paragraph after paragraph trying to explain or justify something that has no basis in fact.
Kye suggested a path for you. Yes, it was assertive, but it was never delivered as an order. Kye isn't going to sit there and talk about your feelings and try to get your point of view. In her eyes, you were wrong... and thus you needed firm correction. This is not the action of a schoolyard bully... they are the words of a battle hardened warrior who doesn't have time to explain herself to Genin or sugarcoat her thoughts. At the end, she gave an ultimatum, not an order... she left the choice in your hand. How you interpreted it as an 'order' I have no idea... but tis just another example of how you read something incorrectly and convinced yourself that someone said something they didn't say. You need to stop doing that.
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