4:32pmFerregar:Would you really rather I be Captain than Jackie?4:34pm
DGwar:No, but if we're going to use rules, we might as well use all of them.4:34pm
Ferregar:Yes, I agree... 4:35pmI had hoped to avoid that, but it is very clear that many of the members have complaints to voice. I would rather we take care of the rest of this mess in Guild, and not trouble Neko with it.4:38pm
DGwar:Well, you guys refuse to honor a win, I got penalized for accepting 2 invites. Which was partially YOUR error for never having the demotes take place like they were supposed to. So, if we're going to use ONE stupid a** rule that was easily gotten around, then by all means, lets honor all the rules and make you captain so people start walking.4:40pm
Ferregar:You cannot blame YOUR actions on me, DG. You knew the rules, and they clearly stated their violation would result in disqualification. If I'm made Captain, I will make sure that people don't start walking... that's not something I take lightly. 4:41pm
DGwar:It also clearly stats that any complaints or otherwise will result in you getting captain.And they will walk.4:41pm
Ferregar:Yes it does. I am not arguign that4:41pm
DGwar:I have roughly 10+ active members waiting on my command.4:41pm
Ferregar:For what?Why are you resorting to threats? I thought you didn't care4:41pm
DGwar:Whatever I deem needed.I didn't care if I lost fairly.4:41pm
Ferregar:Whatever you deem needed? 4:41pm
DGwar:But this is total bullshit.4:42pmIndeed.4:42pm
Ferregar:You lsot fairly. You broke the rules and were disqualified. Nowhere did it say that the person with the most votes, if disqualified, would still win. You told me today that you didn't feel compelled to continue helping the guild because you didn't care, but yo ucare enough to tear it apart?4:43pm
DGwar:Tear it apart?If i wanted to I could take ALL of my work and walk.4:44pmThe guild would be crippled without me and my work and everyone knows it.You're hiding behind one rule while not honoring the rest of them.4:44pm
Ferregar:I am not hiding behind anything. First you said Jackie was hiding behidn it, now me?How am I hiding? I jsut told you I would honor the rule4:45pmAnd actually, DG, it would not. People care enough to push on even if you were so vindictive as to dismantle the guild.4:45pm
DGwar:What people?You'd be left with Urban and the I-kuns4:46pm
Ferregar:Everyone that cares enough to put your drama aside and is here to RP, and enjoy the company given.4:46pm
DGwar:Honestly.It's not my drama.4:46pm
Ferregar:The Vote was close, DG. You did not have a landslide. There are people that will stay4:46pm
DGwar:I'm just fed up with the bullshit ruling.I ******** won fair and square.They would have been in the guild with or without my accepting them.4:47pm
Ferregar:So you threaten the Guild? You threaten with your friends that you invited here, because it gives you manpower and pull?4:47pm
DGwar:And Jackie got 3 votes from new members off the bat.Uhh?No.I'm talking crew that are walking.4:47pm
Ferregar:Which was not her clal, and not her doing. Kage was removed from the guild. That was action in terrible taste, but you DIRECTLY acted on your part4:47pm
DGwar:I can't make anyone do anything.But I've been informed that I have the support of the ones that matter.4:48pmI accepted join requests to speed up their RP process.So ******** sue me4:48pm
Ferregar:I don't care. I will not entertain threats, or this ego stroking, or any of this smug attitude that you feel so keen on displaying because you feel you're in a position of power. We will honor the rule, and then I'll be made Captain. I will work to make this guild great again, and I hope that you'll help me. Instead of continuing with this sickening display.4:49pmSave it for now, DG. I would rather get back to work.4:49pm
DGwar:You don't want to go down that road.4:50pm
Ferregar:What road? The one you're already walking?4:50pm
DGwar:I'm not walking any road.4:50pm
Ferregar:The road of me being Captain because you're trying to position it so that Rykros doesn't win if anyone but YOU is made Captain?4:50pm
DGwar:I'm standing at a crossroads at which you choose the direction.4:51pm
Ferregar:This isn't worth pursuing, DG... no matter if it's you, Jackie or Me, Rykros wins. They have an active Captain who will care about the Guild. Why can't you let it go and work to better thigns instead of making them worse?4:52pm
DGwar:Because depending on the captain depends on the quality.And frankly, Jackie's too unprofessional, and nobody likes you.4:53pm
Ferregar:So your opinion is worth taking things too farPlenty like me, DG. They are nto fond of the fact that I called you out, but they know well enough I am not a bad person, unprofessional, or unqualified.4:54pmWe will honor all the rules.4:54pm
DGwar
biggrin o what you must.Just know you're underestimating me entirely.4:54pm
Ferregar:I'm going to do what you asked of me.Underestiamting what?Are you threatening again?4:56pm
DGwar:It's not a threat.4:56pm
Ferregar:I am not underestimating you or your contributions to this guild. I know you are qualified to lead, I have already told you I was not against it, but rules are rules and Pish made HER call. I'm asking you to live nad let live, forgive, and help make the guild better. 4:56pm
DGwar:The mojority of active members what me in the captain seat.4:56pm
Ferregar:As Vice Captain you will ahve that power4:57pm
DGwar:Vice captain is a joke4:57pm
Ferregar:It doesn't even matter that much. You are actively seeking to make the situation worse instead of making it better4:57pm
DGwar:That's like me saying, oh hey, you can stay on as crew.I ******** WON TWICE AND YOU USED STUPID AS RULES TO DQ ME TWCE4:58pmBOTH TIMES WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING AT BEST4:58pm
Ferregar:You're asking people to stay when they want to leave so you can continue to build their sense of being wronged and dissent, so they side with you and you can have this reovlution that you don't say you want but I know you do...4:58pm
DGwar:I had invites rolling 2 weeks before the first election started.I accepted 2 people to the guild during the second one, AFTER watching others accept peopel.4:59pmEither way they'd have been excepted.You're using a minor technicality to cheat me out of an election.4:59pm
Ferregar:You were only disqualified once. Neko requested the first election be scrapped and a fair one be held in its stead. That is what happened. You were not wronged.Pish made the call5:00pmRemember? OR are you seriously so intent as to brand me a villain trying to cheat you?5:00pm
DGwar:Whatever5:00pm
Ferregar:All I did was my job.Please do what's best for the guild and don't turn this into a madhouse5:00pm
DGwar:I won two elections and between you and Kage and the rest of Jackie's cheer squad I have been DQ'd twice.SO you know what? I'm done playing nice.I5:01pmI could take this to GGN mods and tell them i was cheated in a contest and then they would ban you, and give me the guild.5:01pm
Ferregar:You may feel that you being Captain is what's best for the Guild, but I promise you that these means you keep showing you are willing to employ are not... you're making people pick sides. You're drawing a line. You're egging on conflict.5:01pm
DGwar:I wont, because that's not how I want it to go down.I drew a line the moment you and Kage bitched it up the first election.5:01pm
Ferregar:This conversation is over. That is a threat. I was doing my job, I will say it again and again even if you will never see that truth. This is not a warYou are obsessing over htis5:03pm
DGwar:It became a war the minute you made it one.5:03pm
Ferregar:I never made it one5:03pm
DGwar:So enjoy.I'm done playing nice.5:03pm
Ferregar:For the Love of God...Do what you feel you have to do.5:04pm
DGwar:I plan on it.5:05pm
Ferregar:You have lost perspective on what's important here; to the players. To RP. To have fun. You are destroying that. Do you even realize it?You make it out to be that you are dropping the issue, btu you never have... this is all of that ocming to a head.5:05pm
DGwar:I realize that the people don't want you or Jackie as captain.At least, the active RPersAnd they are what matters.If I have to I'll do what needs to be done in their interests.5:06pm
Ferregar:Your interests. 5:06pm
DGwar:I quit everything for this guild, worked my a** off, and then what?5:06pm
Ferregar:You ride the support of a little over half Rykros' members to justify a crusade5:07pm
DGwar:The members that support me are the active ones.5:07pm
Ferregar:I don't know what else to say. This is insane. You've lost perspective... I pray you walk with thep eople who agree with you over doing whatever it is you plan to do here.5:08pm
DGwar:Honestly... If you were worried about the good of the guild over what you felt was right or wrong we woulnd't even be here.5:08pm
Ferregar:Yes, we would. Because YOU broke the rules. You made that choice. You couldn't keep your hands to yourself.5:09pmStop pinning blame and at the very least hold yourself accoutnable. You knew what was expected of youWhat was expected of ALL the nominees5:11pm
DGwar:Yea. I accepted two people.If I hadn't others would have.If you become captain the guild will suffer.5:11pm
Ferregar:Then you shouldn't have...5:11pm
DGwar:If you don't then the guild rules apparently don't matter.5:12pmIf I become captain then you honor the people.5:12pm
Ferregar:The guild will not suffer if I am Captain. Only if that's what you intend to happen. Only if that's what you are pushing for...5:12pm
DGwar:There are 3 choices each with it's own consequence.5:12pm
Ferregar:And if you are, you have no one's interests but your own at heart, no matter what yo usay.5:12pm
DGwar:If my own interests where at hear then I woulnd't even be in the guild. I have 4 of my own.5:13pmThat I halted for this one.5:13pm
Ferregar:I don't wish to talk about this anymore. Your attitude is frightening. We will talk later, when you have calmed down.Go back to you other projects. MAke them great. Make them wonderful. That's more important than destroying what we have in Rykros
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