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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:59 pm
DylanTheOgreSmith Frankly, I will leave if I don't see to this s**t being rectified to the proper parameters. I'll even donate the gold to create a "secondary" guild if I have to. This s**t has gotten out of hand, and the thin veil of its "formal" nature is being pushed to its brink with this whole ordeal. People are obviously lying, playing on their own self-interests and ignoring various numerals in light of a more favorable outcomes... Don't waste your gold. I have two spare guilds, one with a lot of subforums. ;D
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:04 pm
Fool... It wouldn't be a waste. All I have to say. ^_^
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:10 pm
Stow that talk. If I end up walking it will be of my own accord and after I feel there is no hope for redemption of those that supposedly uphold the rules and the will of the people. If at that time I feel it needed to leave and go elsewhere, people will be informed.
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:21 pm
Just saying, why buy a new pair of pants when you have the same pair at home? ;D
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:27 pm
I just want to summarize this for everyone.
We honor the rules and Ferregar will become captain. We honor the people and I will become the captain. We honor favoritism and selective rules and Jackie becomes captain.
That is the paths we face. Interestingly enough, there is no 100% perfect solution, however I'd rather not see Ferregar captain, and I know many others that agree. I will be made to look like I'm out for my own means. I will be made to look like I cheated, I'll be made too look like I don't care. Hell, I'm sure I'll be made too look like I'm starting a war. However, I had hoped to do this without this kind of stupidity. I won the election, Jackie and Ferregar will have you believe I broke a rule by accepting join requests. Labeling it as inviting members or whatever. However they would have been accepted had I not accepted them, I was just being active crew. Leave it as it may, the entire election wasn't ran as it was supposed to have gone. There were too many flaws and openings, and most people already know my stand on all of it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:32 pm
I am not the bad guy here. I am not lying. I had no hand in this decision except bringing it to light for Pish... she made her call.
I am not serving myself. I do not want to be Captain. I've said it numerous times, but if that's what has to be done to prove we are all accountable to the rules, then I am willing to be.
Please, I ask all of you to remember what's important here - that Rykros is a guild for people to come together and RP, and to have fun with one another. No matter who would become Captain out of this, DG, JAckie, Me... we all care about the Guild and want to make it great. As Vice Captain you still have that ability DG. We are all here to make the guild great, and it doesn't require the captaincy to do so.
I'll beg for the drama to drop, if I have to. It's gone on far too long.
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:43 pm
Say whatever you want Ferregar. The fact remains I'm being DQ'd on a rule that wouldn't hold up in a real courts system if it came to it. The fact also remains that nobody in the guild wants you captain, and if you don't become captain then you can't claim to uphold the rules. It also is a fact that if you and Jackie really didn't care about who won than you would have stood aside and let the people's vote ring true instead of fighting it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:05 pm
DGwar Say whatever you want Ferregar. The fact remains I'm being DQ'd on a rule that wouldn't hold up in a real courts system if it came to it. The fact also remains that nobody in the guild wants you captain, and if you don't become captain then you can't claim to uphold the rules. It also is a fact that if you and Jackie really didn't care about who won than you would have stood aside and let the people's vote ring true instead of fighting it. It would hold up, because the entire reason the rule was written was because the exact same thing happened in the Election before, by your hand. That specific rule was written precisely to insure that such an occurrence would not happen again. I will not continue to reiterate what's true over and over again because you have the freetime and the means to incessantly work at slandering Jackie, and even me. As for whether or not people want me as Captain, I do not know, but neither do you. I was not a nominee, and that was deliberate. I did not want to participate in the race. I wanted to insure that the Election proceeded fairly and without incident. It is not my fault that the incident occurred. You cannot blame me for actions you took on two separate accounts, the second time being fully aware of the rules in place. Stop lying and saying you did not. You knew why they were written. Nothing you are saying is helping your case, the guild, or anything except for continuing to upset people and pushing this guild farther and farther apart. Please stop painting my words and my actions with bias and deceit. I did what I had to do as part of my job, and even then IT WAS NOT MY CHOICE.
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:09 pm
Should I move Kora around outside of the swamp? confused
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:13 pm
Ah, but that's where you are wrong Ferregar. It's your choice to DQ me. You started it, you're the one who made the fuss over it. Had you not made a deal out of it I'm sure that nobody else really would have cared. I was willing to let Jackie's 3 random join and votes slide, sure I made a fuss, but I had full confidence in the election. If I can let that slide, 2 acceptances should be allowed to slide. But they aren't, and it's a stupid reason. I was DQ'd for inviting people to the guild. I sent no invites out, only accepted requests. TWO requests. This is totally a joke on all accounts.
Do whatever you want. Say whatever you want. Clearly you don't care what the majority of the active members want. You have made that apparent repeatedly.
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:13 pm
Chilling2 Should I move Kora around outside of the swamp? confused Given the level of activity there at the moment, I'd say your best bet is to get out of there and go exploring smile Find some people to keep you company
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:15 pm
If I cant respect most of the people here as human beings, why would I waste my time role playing with them? Right now the only people I would role play with are ACOF and.... Well that’s it really. Almost everyone else is pandering to the whim of someone who doesn’t want to honour a vote based on activity, and accepting invites, which happened even after he was demoted, so it really made no difference... Your cause and spirit are admirable. I hope you apply such gusto to your real life endeavours as well as this guild. I did not say I was going to leave, though now that you mention it, that is a real possibility. This guild, right now, is worse than a high school, with the amount of “He said, she said, he did this, they did that,” Crap going on, and only half of it being honoured as rule breaking. Kid, don’t open your mouth. Don’t type anything more. Seriously, the crap you spurt out of your noggin is just pathetic drivel. It is clear you don’t want DG as captain, so of course you will defend the bullshit as much as possible. I don’t really care either way, but a vote is a vote and the people CLEARLY want DG as captain. At least the majority do. You are an angry little 13 year old girl, with your “but he said this, and did this,” bull dust. So please, refrain from offering your ‘opinion’ it is clearly meaningless. Why thank you… I don’t want to call you ‘fool’ as you are clearly not, though your gaian name is an apt description for the members of this guild at the moment. Is there something else I can call you that is more… Apt? I am glad someone shares my opinion of this mess, we should RP together sometime. You are the only one, at present, I would deem worth the time. This is a stupid useless battle. The choice should not have been given to one member to make. Especially not if you were spoon feeding her your anti-DG rubbish. So he accepted a few guild applications? Seriously, ANY OTHER CREW WOULD HAVE DONE IT IF HE HADNT! What part of that do you NOT UNDERSTAND. Are you mentally challenged? I mean, according to this someone was accepting applications after anyway, so the member you appointed as temp captain took it upon herself to demote all the crew to prevent it. She didn’t ask. So it is YOUR fault and YOU didn’t up hold YOUR end of the ‘rules’. You have failed to remain unbiased, so you should be quitting the guild really. That IS what you said you would do… Isn’t it?
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:16 pm
Chilling2 Should I move Kora around outside of the swamp? confused Maybe stick around a little longer. Dylan should be popping up there eventually soonish.
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:23 pm
avalonbi This is a stupid useless battle. The choice should not have been given to one member to make. Especially not if you were spoon feeding her your anti-DG rubbish. So he accepted a few guild applications? Seriously, ANY OTHER CREW WOULD HAVE DONE IT IF HE HADNT! What part of that do you NOT UNDERSTAND. Are you mentally challenged? I mean, according to this someone was accepting applications after anyway, so the member you appointed as temp captain took it upon herself to demote all the crew to prevent it. She didn’t ask. So it is YOUR fault and YOU didn’t up hold YOUR end of the ‘rules’. You have failed to remain unbiased, so you should be quitting the guild really. That IS what you said you would do… Isn’t it? I wasn't feeding Pish anything. I didn't even contact her regarding DG's actions. Jackie was the one that took it upon herself to compile the evidence and send it to Pish. You were not here for the first Election, so please do not start this argument. There is no point. I am not mentally challenged, and it upsets me that you would stoop to the level of name calling. The person who invited the I-kuns was removed from the guild. I have said that. He was not exempt from the rules, and neither is DG. I also had NOTHING to do with Pish being appointed as Captain... I was not even online during the last couple days of the vote because I did not want to be. That is neither my fault or my doing, and I did remain unbiased... you know that Kage is a friend of mine? He agreed to leave, because he respected the rules. No one here is being exempted from them. Please stop villainizing me.
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