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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:29 pm
Hado, Sora isn't flickering or anything. She still has yet to release the jutsu she's holding. She's waiting for either Yamatano or Shinji to strike.
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:11 pm
Kagetsukiko Hado, Sora isn't flickering or anything. She still has yet to release the jutsu she's holding. She's waiting for either Yamatano or Shinji to strike. thanks for telling me. i'll edit it now
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Friendly Conversationalist
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:36 am
Quick question for you good sir. If your Konaga pain level is now at two, wouldn't that decrease your speed by one rank thus basically eliminating your speed shinobi type bonus? I ask because the sand sharks move at 1.5x the users own speed. So if Jishaku's A-ranked, they'd be moving at an S-ranked speed. I just wanted to make sure and ask you since you're the foremost authority on the bloodline you created. EDITED: .....I can't believe I used "you're" instead of "your". Tsk tsk tsk.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:14 pm
Luo1304 Quick question for you good sir. If you're Konaga pain level is now at two, wouldn't that decrease your speed by one rank thus basically eliminating your speed shinobi type bonus? I ask because the sand sharks move at 1.5x the users own speed. So if Jishaku's A-ranked, they'd be moving at an S-ranked speed. I just wanted to make sure and ask you since you're the foremost authority on the bloodline you created. Nope, Pain level applies to the post after the post where it is rolled. So, my Pain level 2 will be in effect next post.
...So, On top of Shinji's Speed type, which puts him at a Jounin's speed, his talent takes him one level up beyond that while in combat... so his speed should match the sharks.
And if you disagree with that calculation, I can still augment to match the speed as well. So really, we can nitpick about what I need to spend to achieve the effect created, but that shouldn't change your response, because in the end, Shinji is capable of matching the speed regardless, it's just a matter of how he does it.
IMO, I think what I posted was enough to match the jutsu, but if you disagree, we can discuss... but in the end, you shouldn't let that hold you up from posting.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:20 pm
Luo1304 So if Jishaku's A-ranked, they'd be moving at an S-ranked speed. I just wanted to make sure and ask you since you're the foremost authority on the bloodline you created. Um, no they wouldn't. A point I have been holding to in all rewrites, and tried to implement in everything else as well, is that no bonus can take you directly from A to S. One rank above A rank is AE, or A.5 if someone else doesn't have bonuses able to reach AD. They will move at well above jounin speed, but not S. I haven't read the posts after mine yet, but that also applies to Cobra's speed bonuses. Going from A to S in one bonus is a ridiculous amount of power, which I've been working on leveling out with that system. (His enhancements might be able to achieve it though, since those are pretty badass.)
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:29 pm
The Sharks would be moving at AD.5-AC ranked speed depending on if you round up or down. ( That's before even applying any bonuses like if Jishaku has Speed type. )
So Shinji would be like this ( C rank + Speed Type + Talent = A rank. He'd need a boost of 2.5-3 ranks in order to be on par with the sharks, according to the thought that A rank doesn't go up to S rank for a while after boosts. )
Sorry if I'm giving unwanted information, or if I'm just leading to more confusion, I have nothing better to do, so I was just looking at stuff... >.>
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:40 pm
@Cobra: Oh I never said he'd be incapable of achieving the speed, I was just wondering if the pain applied to current or future posts. Although to be honest considering it's a dice roll I should've come to that conclusion in the first place. I'd already figured even if it were the case, you had those augmentations to use and so there was really no reason to argue the point further. I just wanted to know how he was able to move like that. Thank you for the response though!
@Hinote: Good point, that's a detail that completely slipped my mind for a bit there. Hmmm, that reminds me that I need to do suiton jutsu edits soon. I'll also probably be submitting other suiton that exist that haven't been converted for RP purposes yet in the custom jutsu app thread just to get those on the list. But yeah I guess with that whole 1.5x thing I'm assuming we're rounding up so it would be AC ranked speed. If not then it would of course be AD.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:26 pm
My own calculation sets it at AE.5. Does Jishaku have bonuses to speed I'm unaware of? +1.5 above A is AE.5.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:23 pm
Oh, it is 1.5+?
I read it as 1.5x, as in once and a half times the user's own speed.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:52 pm
I will be posting tonight, around 11 P. M.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:41 pm
Hinote Tosatsu My own calculation sets it at AE.5. Does Jishaku have bonuses to speed I'm unaware of? +1.5 above A is AE.5. Yep, I read it at 1.5x instead of +1.5 soooo...yeah. You should probably change that in the jutsu if it's written that way. If it's just my own mistake, my apologies.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:05 pm
Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu My own calculation sets it at AE.5. Does Jishaku have bonuses to speed I'm unaware of? +1.5 above A is AE.5. Yep, I read it at 1.5x instead of +1.5 soooo...yeah. You should probably change that in the jutsu if it's written that way. If it's just my own mistake, my apologies. Ah, okay, that makes more sense. Now, why you would think that on the other hand... 1.5x A rank = SC... Or does it? ... I hate math. Does 1.5x add 1.5, or add .5?
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:10 pm
Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu My own calculation sets it at AE.5. Does Jishaku have bonuses to speed I'm unaware of? +1.5 above A is AE.5. Yep, I read it at 1.5x instead of +1.5 soooo...yeah. You should probably change that in the jutsu if it's written that way. If it's just my own mistake, my apologies. Ah, okay, that makes more sense. Now, why you would think that on the other hand... 1.5x A rank = SC... Or does it? ... I hate math. Does 1.5x add 1.5, or add .5? It multiplies by .5, which would be D+ - C ( 2.5 - 3 ) in terms of A ( 5 ). I hate it, but I can do a lot of it in my head.
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:30 pm
Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu My own calculation sets it at AE.5. Does Jishaku have bonuses to speed I'm unaware of? +1.5 above A is AE.5. Yep, I read it at 1.5x instead of +1.5 soooo...yeah. You should probably change that in the jutsu if it's written that way. If it's just my own mistake, my apologies. Ah, okay, that makes more sense. Now, why you would think that on the other hand... 1.5x A rank = SC... Or does it? ... I hate math. Does 1.5x add 1.5, or add .5? 1.5x speed of the user would be giving an object a 50% speed boost.
So, if Jounin Speed = 4... 1.5x Jounin = 6
...so in essence, it's adding .5 (50%) of their normal speed to create a final speed of 1.5
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:01 pm
Cobra_X Hinote Tosatsu Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu My own calculation sets it at AE.5. Does Jishaku have bonuses to speed I'm unaware of? +1.5 above A is AE.5. Yep, I read it at 1.5x instead of +1.5 soooo...yeah. You should probably change that in the jutsu if it's written that way. If it's just my own mistake, my apologies. Ah, okay, that makes more sense. Now, why you would think that on the other hand... 1.5x A rank = SC... Or does it? ... I hate math. Does 1.5x add 1.5, or add .5? 1.5x speed of the user would be giving an object a 50% speed boost.
So, if Jounin Speed = 4... 1.5x Jounin = 6
...so in essence, it's adding .5 (50%) of their normal speed to create a final speed of 1.5Okay, then with Jounin as 5, that's AD.5. So, not actually that bad after all... Of course without the A-S gap instated it'd be SS.5, so, yeah. =/ I feel completely justified in my A-S and S-SS gap systems.
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