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 Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:24 pm
Pr0dlgy PupSage Pr0dlgy Mirojo is still trapped in the genjutsu which means: 1) you can't do physical attacks technically, so: 2) the flashbang never happened 3) you rolled a 1 which means double the damage is taken 4) that puts his MHP below 50%, so all rolls are minus two. Flashbang isn't an attack, its an item. So? Genjutsu affects EVERYTHING and until he breaks free nothing happens physically. I don't see that anywhere Pr0.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:26 pm
I'll give you that, but it affects EVERYONE... including the intruders.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:31 pm
Pr0dlgy I'll give you that, but it affects EVERYONE... including the intruders. Not true, Kouri clarified that a long time ago. The user is unaffected. And I am trying to find the Reflex save she used too. Black thought only makes him think bad things, and thus, Batsu is intimidated. -4 t all rolls versus Hirojo, and Hirojo is hidden.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:31 pm
OMFG, I should punch you. No one knows Cassie's stats and you pulled this stunt. Thanks a ******** lot.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:34 pm
... and Mirojo used Flying Swallow and katana slashes. Nothing else.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:35 pm
Wow, I feel like the two of you have the best conversations. Me? I just get to watch and wait for experience. xd
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The Ghost of Xmas Awesome
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:45 pm
wink I should probably be the one to tell you that that is not how that particular Genjutsu works. It does not inflict intimidation, nor disrupt the flow of battle.
Kuro ikkou inserts harmful and mentally destructive thoughts into people's head's real time. Meaning that even if the thoughts are harming their psyche they are still free to act as they wish, until such time as the Genjutsu renders them inert. It does not trap the mind.
However, once the jutsu has been initiated, it is not broken until the User leaves the area of the victim, the user cuts off the jutsu, the user runs out of chakra, or the victim beats the will DC. After the Original cost, the justu is maintained by 5cp per round maintained, and continues no matter what.
In other words, flash bangs would not interrupt the jutsu, nor effect the will DC, as it only inhibits rolls, not stats or skill totals, and a roll is not required to set the Will save DC for Kuro Ikkou. And while going into stealth might prevent other forms of attack, the Genjutsu Kuro Ikkou, until it is cut off, is still active, and will continue regardless of stealth unless the person flees the area entirely, or as stated, the user runs out of chakra, is defeated, or cuts off the jutsu.
confused And before you ask how I know this, it's because it's my jutsu. I created it.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:13 pm
Pr0dlgy OMFG, I should punch you. No one knows Cassie's stats and you pulled this stunt. Thanks a ******** lot. Hence why I whipped some up and said use her if you want. She was there, she is a chunin, and a genjutsu user, I built a chunin genjutsu specialist and said that if you felt that you needed the support, use her. @Ghost The intimidation is from an intimidation check. He rolled a nat 1 for bunshin, which should have been sense motive.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:16 pm
The Ghost of Xmas Awesome wink I should probably be the one to tell you that that is not how that particular Genjutsu works. It does not inflict intimidation, nor disrupt the flow of battle. Kuro ikkou inserts harmful and mentally destructive thoughts into people's head's real time. Meaning that even if the thoughts are harming their psyche they are still free to act as they wish, until such time as the Genjutsu renders them inert. It does not trap the mind. However, once the jutsu has been initiated, it is not broken until the User leaves the area of the victim, the user cuts off the jutsu, the user runs out of chakra, or the victim beats the will DC. After the Original cost, the justu is maintained by 5cp per round maintained, and continues no matter what. In other words, flash bangs would not interrupt the jutsu, nor effect the will DC, as it only inhibits rolls, not stats or skill totals, and a roll is not required to set the Will save DC for Kuro Ikkou. And while going into stealth might prevent other forms of attack, the Genjutsu Kuro Ikkou, until it is cut off, is still active, and will continue regardless of stealth unless the person flees the area entirely, or as stated, the user runs out of chakra, is defeated, or cuts off the jutsu. confused And before you ask how I know this, it's because it's my jutsu. I created it. All of this I know, and all of this was my intention. That he hide from Tenshi/Batsu, use a jutsu, and then die/go insane.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:18 pm
Pr0dlgy ... and Mirojo used Flying Swallow and katana slashes. Nothing else. He used an intimidate check vs Batsu. If you want to go and ignore my entire post, I will edit it to something much worse.
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The Ghost of Xmas Awesome
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:31 pm
PupSage The Ghost of Xmas Awesome wink I should probably be the one to tell you that that is not how that particular Genjutsu works. It does not inflict intimidation, nor disrupt the flow of battle. Kuro ikkou inserts harmful and mentally destructive thoughts into people's head's real time. Meaning that even if the thoughts are harming their psyche they are still free to act as they wish, until such time as the Genjutsu renders them inert. It does not trap the mind. However, once the jutsu has been initiated, it is not broken until the User leaves the area of the victim, the user cuts off the jutsu, the user runs out of chakra, or the victim beats the will DC. After the Original cost, the justu is maintained by 5cp per round maintained, and continues no matter what. In other words, flash bangs would not interrupt the jutsu, nor effect the will DC, as it only inhibits rolls, not stats or skill totals, and a roll is not required to set the Will save DC for Kuro Ikkou. And while going into stealth might prevent other forms of attack, the Genjutsu Kuro Ikkou, until it is cut off, is still active, and will continue regardless of stealth unless the person flees the area entirely, or as stated, the user runs out of chakra, is defeated, or cuts off the jutsu. confused And before you ask how I know this, it's because it's my jutsu. I created it. All of this I know, and all of this was my intention. That he hide from Tenshi/Batsu, use a jutsu, and then die/go insane. Okay, it just seemed like the confusion needed someone to settle it. It was just misinformation concerning the jutsu, so I decided to clear it all up if i could.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:10 pm
PupSage Pr0dlgy OMFG, I should punch you. No one knows Cassie's stats and you pulled this stunt. Thanks a ******** lot. Hence why I whipped some up and said use her if you want. She was there, she is a chunin, and a genjutsu user, I built a chunin genjutsu specialist and said that if you felt that you needed the support, use her. @Ghost The intimidation is from an intimidation check. He rolled a nat 1 for bunshin, which should have been sense motive. Yeah, to not include her awareness and whatnot. So I guess I have to guess? ... and where the hell is the flying swallow coming from?
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:25 pm
PupSage Pr0dlgy ... and Mirojo used Flying Swallow and katana slashes. Nothing else. He used an intimidate check vs Batsu. If you want to go and ignore my entire post, I will edit it to something much worse. He failed it... stop whining.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:29 pm
Pr0dlgy PupSage Pr0dlgy OMFG, I should punch you. No one knows Cassie's stats and you pulled this stunt. Thanks a ******** lot. Hence why I whipped some up and said use her if you want. She was there, she is a chunin, and a genjutsu user, I built a chunin genjutsu specialist and said that if you felt that you needed the support, use her. @Ghost The intimidation is from an intimidation check. He rolled a nat 1 for bunshin, which should have been sense motive. Yeah, to not include her awareness and whatnot. So I guess I have to guess? ... and where the hell is the flying swallow coming from? EDIT: ...and I will be making a motion soon to limit flashbang's effect. It's way too strong... especially for a lvl 11 fight. Well, it's a tool, projectile, meaning that your dodge bonus (amount of time to shield your eyes) as well you get a fortitude save, are both applied to it, and it doesn't work on stealthed targets, so what's the problem? What about it is overpowered?
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The Ghost of Xmas Awesome
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:34 pm
The Ghost of Xmas Awesome Pr0dlgy PupSage Pr0dlgy OMFG, I should punch you. No one knows Cassie's stats and you pulled this stunt. Thanks a ******** lot. Hence why I whipped some up and said use her if you want. She was there, she is a chunin, and a genjutsu user, I built a chunin genjutsu specialist and said that if you felt that you needed the support, use her. @Ghost The intimidation is from an intimidation check. He rolled a nat 1 for bunshin, which should have been sense motive. Yeah, to not include her awareness and whatnot. So I guess I have to guess? ... and where the hell is the flying swallow coming from? EDIT: ...and I will be making a motion soon to limit flashbang's effect. It's way too strong... especially for a lvl 11 fight. Well, it's a tool, projectile, meaning that your dodge bonus (amount of time to shield your eyes) as well you get a fortitude save, are both applied to it, And it doesn't work on stealthed targets, what's the problem? What about it is overpowered? According to this there is no dodge/fortitude check. It connects regardless. THAT'S the problem.
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