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 Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:36 pm
Mmm.. I've been learning Japanese for a couple of months now by borrowing books from the library (Which came with cd's) and some really useful websites on the internet.
I really want to take classes but no one wants to drive me ;.; -sob-
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:31 pm
GENERAL POST D'INFORMATION FOR JAPANESE SELF-LEARNERS Classes aren't all that great. Japanese teachers, at least the actual Japanese ones, tend to be a bit wacko. Japanese teacher college does something to them, and they come out the other end really messed up. Books and the internet can do a better job than classes can. For example, this is just about everything you need to know. 95% of the grammar you'll encounter in normal situations is in that. The main challenge will be the practicing using it, especially if you are socially stupid and/or are not around many Japanese people anyway, like me. Classes wouldn't really solve the problem either, since you would just be talking to fellow non-Japanese speakers, and because the strict nature of the average Japanese class, theres little wiggle room for free conversation. Also, I reccomend this book. Its all in romanized Japanese so you won't learn anything about actual written Japanese (get a kanji book or something for that), but its good in all other aspects. Also, you want the CD's too. This book also really good. Thats basically the kinda stuff I've been using so far, and it works just fine or better than classes in most cases. And of course, if you really wanna get good at Japanese, go to t3h Japan. But for decent competency thats as close to fluent as you can be without living there, that sort of stuff does the trick. Also, watching random youtube videos in Japanese is good. This guy is good for some fairly easy listening practice, and theres plenty of weird Japanese gameshows and crap, such as hard gay, that can be hilarious and ejumacational. Though you'll have to get to a decent intermediate level before you can understand most of the youtube stuff. Its still good to listen and get familiar with the pronunciation and all that though. So go forth and learn.
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:22 pm
Vajra B. Hairava GENERAL POST D'INFORMATION FOR JAPANESE SELF-LEARNERS Classes aren't all that great. Japanese teachers, at least the actual Japanese ones, tend to be a bit wacko. Japanese teacher college does something to them, and they come out the other end really messed up. Books and the internet can do a better job than classes can. For example, this is just about everything you need to know. 95% of the grammar you'll encounter in normal situations is in that. The main challenge will be the practicing using it, especially if you are socially stupid and/or are not around many Japanese people anyway, like me. Classes wouldn't really solve the problem either, since you would just be talking to fellow non-Japanese speakers, and because the strict nature of the average Japanese class, theres little wiggle room for free conversation. Also, I reccomend this book. Its all in romanized Japanese so you won't learn anything about actual written Japanese (get a kanji book or something for that), but its good in all other aspects. Also, you want the CD's too. This book also really good. Thats basically the kinda stuff I've been using so far, and it works just fine or better than classes in most cases. And of course, if you really wanna get good at Japanese, go to t3h Japan. But for decent competency thats as close to fluent as you can be without living there, that sort of stuff does the trick. Also, watching random youtube videos in Japanese is good. This guy is good for some fairly easy listening practice, and theres plenty of weird Japanese gameshows and crap, such as hard gay, that can be hilarious and ejumacational. Though you'll have to get to a decent intermediate level before you can understand most of the youtube stuff. Its still good to listen and get familiar with the pronunciation and all that though. So go forth and learn.
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 6:40 am
I went through reading both Genki I and II and skipped one of the classes here without doing any of the work inside. I might have been able to skip two classes. I strongly suggest looking into those books. wink
Okano wasn't too bad, he just had parkinson's disease, but Fusayo was a little weird. If I get to go to class next semester we'll be having a conversational class every Wednesday with one of Fusayo's friends. 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:16 am
Quote: Well this makes me feel a lot better ^^ I thought that the proper way was to go into classes/courses, but I guess what I'm doing is fine. Thanks for the post. =) -Checks out all the links- Classes aren't bad, having a class is better than no class. My thing is that you need the good self-study primarily, and it would be better to be doing just that or that with a class than just a class alone. That is if you actually want to get good. Altogether it might be a bit exspensive, but those books there should be all you need, for like, a long time if you can manage to get them. I'm not a huge fan of Genki, it goes awfully slow. But I'm not a huge fan of textbooks in general, I never use them.
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:28 pm
I'll go book hunting for the genki books to give it a try :3
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:20 am
はじめまして。私はネブネルでス。どうぞよろしく。
あの。。。たぶん、３年まえに日本語を勉強することが始まりました。今じょうずじゃないです。でもひらがなとかたかなを読むことができます、そしてちょっとかんじをわかります。私の一番の大きいなやみはかんじです。かんじのいみをわかりますでも、よむをわかりません。それはたいへんです。いっぱいかんじをわかりますでもぜんぶのよむことができません。いっぱいべんきょうしたい。。。いちがつから私はイギリスへいきます。あそこへ日本語をべんきょうすることができません。イギリスにデサインをべんきょうします。
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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 5:29 pm
ちょっと文法を直してあげる。私なら、このようにする： Miutsis はじめまして。私はネブネルでス。どうぞよろしく。 あの。。。たぶん、３年まえに日本語を勉強すること をはじめました。今じょうずじゃないです。でもひらがなとかたかなを読むことができます、そしてちょっとかんじ がわかります。私の一番 の大きいなやみはかんじです。かんじのいみ がわかります けど、 よみがわかりません。それはたいへんです。 たくさんかんじ がわかります が、かんじのよみかたはぜんぶわかりません。たくさんべんきょうしたい。。。いちがつ あとに私はイギリスへいきます。あそこへ日本語をべんきょうすることができません。イギリスにデサインをべんきょうします。 「分かる」を使う（つかう）ときに、たいてい「が」を使うんだよ。覚えておきな。 漢字（かんじ）を書かなかった言葉の感じ： 漢字 -かんじ 上手 - じょうず 分かる - わかる 悩み - なやみ 読み - よみ 全部 - せんぶ 大変 - たいけん 意味 - いみ 前 - まえ 何か分からなければ、私は説明してあげるよ。
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:20 am
Vajra B. Hairava Quote: Well this makes me feel a lot better ^^ I thought that the proper way was to go into classes/courses, but I guess what I'm doing is fine. Thanks for the post. =) -Checks out all the links- Classes aren't bad, having a class is better than no class. My thing is that you need the good self-study primarily, and it would be better to be doing just that or that with a class than just a class alone. That is if you actually want to get good. Altogether it might be a bit exspensive, but those books there should be all you need, for like, a long time if you can manage to get them. I'm not a huge fan of Genki, it goes awfully slow. But I'm not a huge fan of textbooks in general, I never use them. Heh, I have textbooks for young learners about exchange students living in Japan. Fun Activities but, it was sort of pushed together and so you have to learn at a fairly slow pace beginning that they teach you a lot.
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:47 pm
TEXTBOOKS = POOP
You can use them, just don't rely on them.
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:14 am
Also, look for ones written by natives. They tend to be much more accurate than ones written by foreigners. As it is with any language. 3nodding Except when it comes to Tae Kim and James W. Heisig; they definately went all out to make sure they were as correct as possible.
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:12 pm
どうしてミャンマー語のスレがないだろう？
興味が始まったから少しだけ習いたいんだ。
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:09 pm
ミャンマー語に興味を持ってる人いるか分かんないんだが、スレッドはないと、作っていいんだよ。実は俺なら、その言語について聞いた事ないんだけど。
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:20 am
This was the very first sentence we learned in Japanese evening classes:
ピータはメーリをころした。
....my Japanese teacher always made such weird examples. Another one was something in the likes of
血は赤い。
to explain how to use adjectives and stuff. I seriously do NOT want to know what she was doing in her free-time. domokun
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:29 pm
Those are the kind of examples I tend to give people. They also usually involve a cat in some way or another no matter what. Hey, feel lucky you don't have a totally uptight teacher (I assume).
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