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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:50 am
I'm kinda intrigued by the fact that this isn't the first time I've been "questing something to call a religion". 3nodding Witchcraft keeps drawing me back. Is there something wrong with me!? gonk I suppose that this might be a clue of some sort, telling me that witchcraft is right for me, but no matter. What, in your words, is the definition of a shaman, a sage, and a healer. Are they the same thing? Why or why not?
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:07 pm
a n n i v i I'm kinda intrigued by the fact that this isn't the first time I've been "questing something to call a religion". 3nodding Witchcraft keeps drawing me back. Is there something wrong with me!? gonk I suppose that this might be a clue of some sort, telling me that witchcraft is right for me, but no matter. What, in your words, is the definition of a shaman, a sage, and a healer. Are they the same thing? Why or why not? for the record, witchcraft is not a religion. it is a craft, just as the name implies, that must be practiced and worked with in order to be properly developed. it's same with painting or sculpting, the only difference is, if you screwup (or even get it right) the outcome is not always what you want and it can be much more difficult to recover than just by squishing down the clay and starting over. good words to live by are mundane before magic, it is an aid, not a solution, imo. i understand that you are not asking for the specific definitions of these words, but defining a word is just as important, if not more so. i do know that others in this guild, who are far more knowledgeable than i, can give you more precise and more in depth answers. 3nodding shaman - sha⋅man /ˈʃɑmən, ˈʃeɪ-, ˈʃæmən/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [shah-muhn, shey-, sham-uhn] Show IPA Use shaman in a Sentence See web results for shaman See images of shaman –noun (esp. among certain tribal peoples) a person who acts as intermediary between the natural and supernatural worlds, using magic to cure illness, foretell the future, control spiritual forces, etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sage - sage1 /seɪdʒ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [seyj] Show IPA noun, adjective, sag⋅er, sag⋅est. Use sage in a Sentence See web results for sage See images of sage –noun 1. a profoundly wise person; a person famed for wisdom. 2. someone venerated for the possession of wisdom, judgment, and experience. –adjective 3. wise, judicious, or prudent: sage advice. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- healer - heal⋅er /ˈhilər/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hee-ler] Show IPA Use healer in a Sentence See web results for healer See images of healer –noun 1. a person or thing that heals. 2. faith healer. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- references http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shamanhttp://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sagehttp://dictionary.reference.com/browse/healer
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:04 pm
Thank you for the help and the definitions. But I have another question linked to your reply. Isn't there religious witchcraft? If there is, could I hypothetically practice witchcraft and, say, be a Buddhist or something like that?
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:58 pm
a n n i v i Thank you for the help and the definitions. But I have another question linked to your reply. Isn't there religious witchcraft? If there is, could I hypothetically practice witchcraft and, say, be a Buddhist or something like that? witchcraft in and of itself is not a religion, but you can be of a religion (or none at all) and still practice witchcraft, unless of course it goes against your religious code of ethics, in which case , if i'm not mistaken, one can still practice a form of mysticism that is not neccessarily witchcraft. edit: on the flip side, there are some religions that require the art of witchcraft.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:37 pm
Whip, would you mind telling me what religions out there require Witchcraft?
Not trying to show you up or anything. sweatdrop I just want to know.
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Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:16 pm
Namikikyo Whip, would you mind telling me what religions out there require Witchcraft?
Not trying to show you up or anything. sweatdrop I just want to know. it has actually been my understanding that wicca requires witchcraft and high magic, but i may be wrong, and voodoo also uses the folk magic hoodoo (at least that was the explaination i received in new orleans). i'm sure there are others, but i am not that familiar with it all, myself still being a seeker.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:42 pm
When a fiction writer takes a culture's beliefs and pervert them in order to make a Verse for their use, and it is not passed off as an accurate portrayal of the original culture, it is not considered culture rape, is it?
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 5:50 pm
Aino Ailill When a fiction writer takes a culture's beliefs and pervert them in order to make a Verse for their use, and it is not passed off as an accurate portrayal of the original culture, it is not considered culture rape, is it? if it is then the writers of scooby-doo should be in prison.
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:11 am
i have a question for those of you who are well versed in norse myth.
is it true that ogres and giants are considered the same thing? also, were said beings truely the bringers of natural disasters, such as earthquakes and avalanches?and one more, is ragnarok a norse only belief, or is it common amongst other traditions?
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:58 pm
demisara So what's the difference between UPG and an epiphany? Assuming you're not the appearance of a divine being, an epiphany isn't always spiritual, nor is UPG always sudden or striking.
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:13 pm
whiporwill-o i have a question for those of you who are well versed in norse myth. is it true that ogres and giants are considered the same thing? Neither of those terms stem from Norse mythos. I've seen people translate Joten as giant. Quote: also, were said beings truely the bringers of natural disasters, such as earthquakes and avalanches? The Eddas suggest that actions by Jotens, the AEsir and other beings affect this world. Quote: and one more, is ragnarok a norse only belief, or is it common amongst other traditions? Ragnarok is Norse, though some of the Teutonic Tribes shared the mythos. Or are you speaking about generic end of the world stuff?
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:14 pm
a n n i v i Is there something wrong with me!? Wouldn't know- but an interest in witchcraft wouldn't be an indicator to me. wink Quote: What, in your words, is the definition of a shaman, A person who fulfills a specific role within the cultures of the Tungusic speaking peoples. A philosopher with established and tested wisdom., Someone who heals. Nope. Well, one specifically addresses a cultural tradition, one addresses a skill and another the person who performs an action- none of which must be related to one another. whiporwill-o it has actually been my understanding that wicca requires witchcraft All of the Wica are witches- as such they would be expected to practice witchcraft. 3nodding Aino Ailill When a fiction writer takes a culture's beliefs and pervert them in order to make a Verse for their use, and it is not passed off as an accurate portrayal of the original culture, it is not considered culture rape, is it? I have differing opinions from most people on this. I fully admit that my position comes from my experiences working towards equal rights and human rights amongst people who still believe my ethnicity doesn't exist. With that in mind, I do hold that it is culture rape, and that it fits the definition thereof.
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:37 pm
TeaDidikai whiporwill-o i have a question for those of you who are well versed in norse myth. is it true that ogres and giants are considered the same thing? Neither of those terms stem from Norse mythos. I've seen people translate Joten as giant. thankyou for clarifying. in other traditions can 'ogres' be sustitued for 'giant'? i always thought they were 2 different beings. TeaDidikai whiporwill-o and one more, is ragnarok a norse only belief, or is it common amongst other traditions? Ragnarok is Norse, though some of the Teutonic Tribes shared the mythos. Or are you speaking about generic end of the world stuff? specifically ragnarok, thank you. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:45 pm
whiporwill-o thankyou for clarifying. in other traditions can 'ogres' be sustitued for 'giant'? i always thought they were 2 different beings. In the same way that some people insist on calling me a Shamanic Witch I suppose. ~shrugs~
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:54 pm
TeaDidikai whiporwill-o thankyou for clarifying. in other traditions can 'ogres' be sustitued for 'giant'? i always thought they were 2 different beings. In the same way that some people insist on calling me a Shamanic Witch I suppose. ~shrugs~ It's incorrect, but "common definition" says it's "acceptable"?
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