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Yeah, I like what you guys are saying. I do think that the word "dating" needs some redefining in our community, because whenever it IS used, it usually does mean something haraam.. -_-

We need more muslims trying to date the Muslim way. You can never truly know a guy until you get mentally close with him, and you can't be close friends with him if you guys don't hang out or get to know eachother THOROUGHLY.

For instance, I know someone in my community who has talked on the phone with this one guy for months. It was a guy she got a proposal from, and the had polite, casual convo for a long time. few months after they married.. they divorced. It just shows that when someone is trying to marry you, they're not gonna show their bad traits.

However, instead of marriage hunting, if we start simple and move up, we can get to know people in a more thorough way. I think this sort of thing should be encouraged, as opposed to the arranged marriages.

What is Liberal Islam?

AoA,

umm..ok if ur muslim and gay that cant happen..(Sorry) If u were born gay and want to be muslim its going to be harder for u than normal ppl....Islam is all about control....over feelings, thoughts, and ur mouth and ect....so for bi or gay ppl to muslims they have to control there gay feelings b/c 1st of all in Islam sex is pretty much for producing a child or an atmpt to...so a guy+a guy does not = a child...so im sorry to say but Allah is probably testing u if u have enough control over ur feelings for him....but hey i really dont know way Allah is doing so i cant say that for sure... 3nodding

Those who call themselves Muslims and don't follow the Prophet's Hadiths are contradicting themselves. I have two questions for them :
1- How do you pray ? Give me a verse from the quran that tells you when you stand for the prayer rise your hands close to your ears and when perform the Sojood put your head, your hands, your knees, and your toes on the ground.

2- Who revealed the Quran ? of course the Prophet to his companions. And those companions delivered it to their children, and so and so until we get it today. The question is, if these companions are not sure of the Hadiths, will they be sure about the verses of the Quran ? and the men who took it from them, are they blind ??


frifri :


You're right frifri ..

we don't judge people's faith untill they say what it is. What I mean is, as long as you're Muslim, then you're our brother and you have your rights to live with us, but what we have to do with Homosexuality is that we should advise you to stop it. I don't mean your feelings but your practice.

Allah created Adam and Eve for Al-Janna (or heaven as known to most) and he told them not to disobey him by eating from the tree. What happened is Satan whispered to them to eat from it while they weren't aware of what they are doing, so Allah took them out of Al-Janna and sent them to earth.

This is a quite lesson for us to tell us that if you disobey Allah you'll be punished unless He forgives you, and Allah is the All Merciful if we quit sinning. Also, He might forgive us for doing something better, it's all up to Him but we MUST follow the Quran's words.

It's mentioned in the Quran that a brother can have love for a brother in Allah. If you thought that it's mentioned in the Quran that Homosexuality is acceptable, then you're misunderstanding it. You better discuss that with The Imam.



If you worship Allah, then follow His words and stop disobeying His order.



It's not our decision. We the human beings are lost without God. But I can say one thing we the muslims are not confused about; there's no God but Allah, and it's the only perfect choice we found because EVERYTHING is this world will guide you to Him if you think about it well.

This is what I could come up with. I think it's better to ask a trusted scholar about it and you'll get a fine answer.

Somehow I doubt it is used mostly for kids. In this day and age? Maybe eventually but most of the time do married couples have sex to have a bunch of kids? I doubt that.

You didn't say that the purpose was "originally" for procreation, you said "Sex is pretty much for producing a child" which means sex=children. The purpose of sex is whatever the couple wants it to be. So their intention could be pleasure or their intention could be pregnancy.

It is encouraged in Islam (and practically everywhere else too) to have a healthy sex life with your spouse. Marriages fail because the lack of sex and Islam recognizes the sexual needs of humans.

Even if sex was originally for reproduction, there are other functions of it such as pleasure. It doesn't matter if we're talking about modern Muslims or the first Muslims because I bet sex between couples hasn't changed very much.

I also don't know if you're telling the OP that he's not a Muslim because he is unable to reproduce but there are people out there who are unable to reproduce because they're infertile so you would be implying (whether you know it or not) that they aren't Muslims either. Yeah, being gay is haraam and all that stuff we've read in this thread. But seriously, it's not our place to tell him he's going to hell because only Allah decides that.