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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:00 pm
Khalida Nyoka iolitefire Khalida Nyoka As for parents taking control of children minds et cetera, which it is their legal right to do... What about methods of coercion and Stockholm syndrome? you say to your parents "I'm pagan!" They say to you "Summer Camp!" And it all goes downhill from there... It also means no more cake. And who could live like that? I mean... come on... it's cake! Pie > Cake And actually no, it's not legal for a parent to control a child's religion(in America at least). Freedoms are extended to minors as well when it comes to freedom of religion and such.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:20 pm
[And actually no, it's not legal for a parent to control a child's religion(in America at least). Freedoms are extended to minors as well when it comes to freedom of religion and such.
Parents can't contol what their kids do or say or think, the only have legal ability to influence them a certain amount. I say they can't because, you know, they *physically cannot*. The influence most parents use is physical violence or the threat of kicking them out. The good parents use emotional reasons- the lack of trust or respect. Most people don't even realize what influences their parents have over them, and whether they are being influenced in a good or bad way.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:52 am
I'll have to check on Children's rights... because in the US, children are essentially the posession of their parents, until either the parent is proven incompetant or the child reaches the correct age.
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:38 pm
As I said- *physically cannot*. Even if a judge ordered a child to think something, no-one can make them. No-one. Ok, maybe a hypnotist. Maybe.
While children are basically the possessions of their parents in the eyes of the law, there are parts of the law that provide for things like, say, child abuse. Any influence a parent has that abuses the child is illegal. Also, while a parent may be able to do lots of things, they are also legally obligated to care for their children. Which means that while they may threaten it all they want, they cannot legally kick you out until you are 18. Yes, you can actually call the cops on your parents if they kick you out when you are underage. (And you might want to, come to think about it- I have actually heard of parents who kicked their child out, then called them in as runaways. Yes. People actually do that.)
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:23 pm
well, its not really mothers fault I guess, she was raised Christian and they shove crap about witches being evil and what not into their brains, she is mainly doing this because she believes its the best thing for you, simply wait until you are able to move out, when you are then you are free do as you wish, put on a act of being a Christian until then and fallow you dream of being a vet, if you do this I am sure your mother will lay off for a while. If she doesn't have a long serious talk with her, tell her your feelings, if she really loves you she will understand after you feed her your beliefs and what not, ask her to at least tolerate it.
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:52 pm
Wait till you graduate highschool and move somewhere where you can do all of that cause once your 18 they can't do anything.
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:28 pm
Did you have any particular reason for bumping up a month-old topic? XD
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:18 pm
The wiccans I can't stand are those who claim it when they are not intiated. Those wiccans bother me.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:20 pm
Again, Darin Rosewood Did you have any particular reason for bumping up a month-old topic? XD
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:27 pm
Darin Rosewood Again, Darin Rosewood Did you have any particular reason for bumping up a month-old topic? XD Thread necromancy is good. Allows you to keep related posts in one thread rather than making a new thread every month. |D
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:31 pm
Mitsh Darin Rosewood Again, Darin Rosewood Did you have any particular reason for bumping up a month-old topic? XD Thread necromancy is good. Allows you to keep related posts in one thread rather than making a new thread every month. |D Yeah, but there was no reason for the necromancy this time. She kinda just posted for no reason whatsoever that I could see. Maybe she just wanted to keep in practice?
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:33 pm
Oh wait, I forgot LH is a Pingu mule. that explains everything. Nevermind then.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:24 pm
Lust herself The wiccans I can't stand are those who claim it when they are not intiated. Those wiccans bother me. Said it before and I will say it again.
It is a great debate in every religion and every sect about who is legitimate and who is not, which heresy is just heterodox and which is a condemnation of the original principles. Some people argue over which thinkers are legitimate and others fight solely to claim legitimacy from someone.
The thing with Wicca is the debate between those who think you need to be initiated and those who believe conviction is what is needed to initiate yourself. Unfortunately, there is nothing that can make you a member of a religion besides genuine belief, and nothing can be genuine without that. Like it or not, Wicca has just had it's Protestant Revolution a couple hundred years early, and you have to deal with it. It's not like the divisions weren't there when everyone was inititated. (Into different covens. With different creeds. And disagreeing beliefs. Sound familiar?)
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:03 pm
It wasn't that much of a problem with Christianity, since non-Christians weren't suddenly declaring themselves High Priests, Popes, etc. With Wicca, everyone's a priest, and these self-proclaimed uberpriests--who were never a part of the religion to begin with--are telling the masses that anyone can join in anytime they want. Not only that, but Christianity didn't keep secret the information needed to practice the religion. Wicca does. Without the Mysteries (access to which can only be gained through initiation/proof thereof), it'd be like trying to have a Christian Mass with no Communion or Lord's Prayer.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:45 pm
Darin Rosewood It wasn't that much of a problem with Christianity, since non-Christians weren't suddenly declaring themselves High Priests, Popes, etc. With Wicca, everyone's a priest, and these self-proclaimed uberpriests--who were never a part of the religion to begin with--are telling the masses that anyone can join in anytime they want. Not only that, but Christianity didn't keep secret the information needed to practice the religion. Wicca does. Without the Mysteries (access to which can only be gained through initiation/proof thereof), it'd be like trying to have a Christian Mass with no Communion or Lord's Prayer. Well, actually, access to literacy and to the Bible was restricted to the Priestly class and nobility. Needless to say, don't think it helped much.
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