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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:40 pm
Washulove :/ Then explain to me why we have so many Cuban immigrants in the US. I'm not saying Cuba is good right now, I'm just saying we forget to mention good things about them. Castro's an idiot and everyone knows that, but now he's going to die so that's ok.
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:46 am
razzledazzle5160 If it is so obvious, then why is there a seprate topic just on communism? cuz people like me and many others still dont understand it. It also seems to be one of the most controversial forms of governments and lots of people have their thoughts on it and want to express what they think. Again, that is why this forum was created.
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Cynical Rainbows Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:55 am
Washulove :/ Then explain to me why we have so many Cuban immigrants in the US. QFE. And, I think the reason Communism doesn't work is human nature. Look at all Communist countries. There's always millions of people starving with one oligarchy, living it up. Is it equality that a North Korea citizen lives on only about $100 annually and has to eat dirt to survive will Kim Jong Il spends $600,000+ dollars on gourmet food and liquor? In Communist countries, the only equality I see amongst the lower class is their misery. Wait, isn't Communism supposed to be a classless society where everyone's equal? Oh, right. It is. Of all the Communist countries that exist in the world, none of them execute the doctrine properly. Karl Marx would be ashamed of how they're warping his ideas and ideologies. It's almost comparable to the Muslim extremists who warp the Qu'ran and the concept of "Jihad" into destroy all infidels. You all can argue with me if you want, but I just think Communism will never work because people can't properly execute the doctrine. (BTW, at the person who claimed Hitler was Communist... That's the polar opposite of him. He was a Fascist. That's the exact opposite of Communist on a political scale. Who said that anyways? ._.)
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:10 am
Cynical Rainbows Washulove :/ Then explain to me why we have so many Cuban immigrants in the US. QFE. And, I think the reason Communism doesn't work is human nature. Look at all Communist countries. There's always millions of people starving with one oligarchy, living it up. Is it equality that a North Korea citizen lives on only about $100 annually and has to eat dirt to survive will Kim Jong Il spends $600,000+ dollars on gourmet food and liquor? In Communist countries, the only equality I see amongst the lower class is their misery. Wait, isn't Communism supposed to be a classless society where everyone's equal? Oh, right. It is. Of all the Communist countries that exist in the world, none of them execute the doctrine properly. Karl Marx would be ashamed of how they're warping his ideas and ideologies. It's almost comparable to the Muslim extremists who warp the Qu'ran and the concept of "Jihad" into destroy all infidels. You all can argue with me if you want, but I just think Communism will never work because people can't properly execute the doctrine. (BTW, at the person who claimed Hitler was Communist... That's the polar opposite of him. He was a Fascist. That's the exact opposite of Communist on a political scale.) North Korea and Cuba really aren't communist. If you want to call them straight-up socialist, or maybe even State Capitalist, that's cool. But like you said, Marx would be ashamed. It's really NOT communism if that's how they're running it. Exactly. The Islam is supposed to be a religion of peace, but the extremists basically ruined everyone's perception of it. (Yes, about the Hitler thing, that really does tick me off. There's people who are saying things like, "OMFGGZAFC ONUMNISM = HILTER = BADDD!!!1111~~!!1111" which also gives people a twisted perception of it. And unfortunately, some people actually STILL THINK he was a communist. Perhaps THAT is the reason it won't work? Haha.)
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Cynical Rainbows Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:19 am
Miss Murdered Cynical Rainbows Washulove :/ Then explain to me why we have so many Cuban immigrants in the US. QFE. And, I think the reason Communism doesn't work is human nature. Look at all Communist countries. There's always millions of people starving with one oligarchy, living it up. Is it equality that a North Korea citizen lives on only about $100 annually and has to eat dirt to survive will Kim Jong Il spends $600,000+ dollars on gourmet food and liquor? In Communist countries, the only equality I see amongst the lower class is their misery. Wait, isn't Communism supposed to be a classless society where everyone's equal? Oh, right. It is. Of all the Communist countries that exist in the world, none of them execute the doctrine properly. Karl Marx would be ashamed of how they're warping his ideas and ideologies. It's almost comparable to the Muslim extremists who warp the Qu'ran and the concept of "Jihad" into destroy all infidels. You all can argue with me if you want, but I just think Communism will never work because people can't properly execute the doctrine. (BTW, at the person who claimed Hitler was Communist... That's the polar opposite of him. He was a Fascist. That's the exact opposite of Communist on a political scale.) North Korea and Cuba really aren't communist. If you want to call them straight-up socialist, or maybe even State Capitalist, that's cool. But like you said, Marx would be ashamed. It's really NOT communism if that's how they're running it. Exactly. The Islam is supposed to be a religion of peace, but the extremists basically ruined everyone's perception of it. (Yes, about the Hitler thing, that really does tick me off. There's people who are saying things like, "OMFGGZAFC ONUMNISM = HILTER = BADDD!!!1111~~!!1111" which also gives people a twisted perception of it. And unfortunately, some people actually STILL THINK he was a communist. Perhaps THAT is the reason it won't work? Haha.) Really, I think the proper term for North Korea and Cuba's government would be "Supreme Dictatorship." About Islam, I actually read the Qu'ran and there was a quote that denounced what the Muslim extremists are doing. Jihad should only be fought in defense, you cannot kill women, children, or the elderly, and that conversion cannot be forced. Qu'ran 2.256 Let there be no compulsion in religion. And that other religions were Allah's Way Qu'ran 5.28 For every one of you We appointed a law and way. And if Allah had pleased, he would have made you a single people... So vie with one another in virtuous deed." As anyone can tell, the extremist's Jihad's motivation is greed. But, I digress...
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:55 am
I hope you never do actually leave Gaia because your views and arguments are the most intelligent and interesting in the whole subforum.
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Red-White-and-Brainwashed Crew
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:43 am
I definantly agree to the fact that it would probably never work because no one can execute it correctly. I think once people get that little bit of control, they want to keep on building on it and there would be really no one to stop them.
I don't know if I exactly like the idea of it all. If I'm working much more and much harder than my neighbor, they are receving the same things I am? Yes, that would eliminate the lower class and make them better off, but still I think it's full of loopholes and whatnot.
@ Hitler Statement: Well those people don't even know what they are talking about. They probably go into the ED thinking they are all smart and talk like a n00b. Stupid people XD
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:05 am
Red-White-and-Brainwashed I hope you never do actually leave Gaia because your views and arguments are the most intelligent and interesting in the whole subforum. Psh, I wouldn't say the most intelligent. Everyone in this subforum is very intelligent. 3nodding
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Cynical Rainbows Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:10 pm
razzledazzle5160 I definantly agree to the fact that it would probably never work because no one can execute it correctly. I think once people get that little bit of control, they want to keep on building on it and there would be really no one to stop them. I don't know if I exactly like the idea of it all. If I'm working much more and much harder than my neighbor, they are receving the same things I am? Yes, that would eliminate the lower class and make them better off, but still I think it's full of loopholes and whatnot. @ Hitler Statement: Well those people don't even know what they are talking about. They probably go into the ED thinking they are all smart and talk like a n00b. Stupid people XD That's why you steal the checks-and-balances system, and DON'T have a supreme dictatorship. Because more often than not, dictators turn out to be assholes.
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:40 pm
Cynical Rainbows Red-White-and-Brainwashed I hope you never do actually leave Gaia because your views and arguments are the most intelligent and interesting in the whole subforum. Psh, I wouldn't say the most intelligent. Everyone in this subforum is very intelligent. 3nodding I dont exactly know who the 'stupidity' thing was directed to, but no body that was stupid would talk about politics. politics is a very mature subject that usually on the elite talk about. thats how I confuse my square friends at lunch. i debate religion and politics with my not square friend. ENNEWAY. yeah. no body that posts in here is stupid. some people dont fully grasp some concepts, but that is not stupidity. just innocent ignorance. ignorace does no harm, but the questions resulting from your ignorance can lead you further.
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:15 pm
Thanks for not misusing the word "ignorant." People use it as a bad thing all the time!
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:18 pm
Washulove Thanks for not misusing the word "ignorant." People use it as a bad thing all the time! Sometimes ignorance annoys me, but people usually see the root word as "ignore" and assume it just means people choose to ignore the truth or something like that.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:36 pm
Miss Murdered Washulove Thanks for not misusing the word "ignorant." People use it as a bad thing all the time! Sometimes ignorance annoys me, but people usually see the root word as "ignore" and assume it just means people choose to ignore the truth or something like that. and other people *cough* kenneth*cough* always use it as if it meant 'stupid' or something. such as an ignorant driver. one who does not know the rules of the road is ignorant. one who decides to speed up then slow down, then when you try to pass them speed up again, then cut you off on purpose, then slow way down, and then 'miss their exit' and swerve way over is just a stupid bad driver. they are nto ignorant. ignorant does not equal stupid. it is a pet peeve of mine when people get those mixed up.
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 4:50 pm
emo tazer Miss Murdered Washulove Thanks for not misusing the word "ignorant." People use it as a bad thing all the time! Sometimes ignorance annoys me, but people usually see the root word as "ignore" and assume it just means people choose to ignore the truth or something like that. and other people *cough* kenneth*cough* always use it as if it meant 'stupid' or something. such as an ignorant driver. one who does not know the rules of the road is ignorant. one who decides to speed up then slow down, then when you try to pass them speed up again, then cut you off on purpose, then slow way down, and then 'miss their exit' and swerve way over is just a stupid bad driver. they are nto ignorant. ignorant does not equal stupid. it is a pet peeve of mine when people get those mixed up. Haha, you Kenneth-coughed.
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