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Eccentric Iconoclast Vice Captain
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 Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:35 pm
The very awesomeness of the language is excuse enough to bump it. xp
I say, did you know that Tarasoriku, on the ZBB, is also an Aymarophile (neologism, yay!)? He was in the conlang relay after me, and when he saw the trivalent logic system of Mädëšk he asked me if that was what it was based on (the answer was yes razz ). He's been trying to learn it for longer than either of us, I believe.
We ought to, like, start an Aymara forum. If we get more people.
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:58 pm
How much has he accomplished? Was he actually able to like, learn it, good?
How exactly does that triavalent thingamajig work anyhow? The only information on it I've read is the wikipedia article, which really is not sufficient.
Perhaps if all the Aymaraphiles are gathered, the collective knowledge of them all will add up to something substantial. A noble effort, onward forth to Aymara goes we! I think the problem is that Aymaro-philes aren't exactly comin' out the wazoo. Throw an dehydrated goose and you won't hit one.
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Eccentric Iconoclast Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:07 pm
I can go q'asq'asiña until people give in and learn it. razz
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:42 pm
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:46 pm
i luff joo
Where in the world are you pullin this stuff out of? Jeez, with this if it gets all updated, the compiendo, and that one book, that might be enough to learn me some decent Aymara!
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:05 am
I guess I'm good at finding resources. ;Þ
I go and search linguistics forums and mailing lists and stuff for Aymara and see what I can get. I acquired this one looking through CONLANG-L.
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Eccentric Iconoclast Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:03 am
God, I luff Aymara even moar now. It beats Nahuatl. The more I learn, the more I luff it.
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:21 am
I've noticed the same thing. One's interest doesn't fade at all, but in fact grows. Is a fascinating language. heart
You are aware that the video in my profile is a song in Aymara, right? I've been analysing the lyrics a bit.
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Eccentric Iconoclast Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:32 pm
Phff, no, I didn't know that. What have you gotten out of it? I think I recognize a few random affixes, but nothing more than that.
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:43 pm
Also, would you consider the Aymaran orthography as shown on the omniglot page to be correct? Because I think I've been seeing some inconsistencies in different Aymara resources, and I want to not be messing things up, of course. Mostly in the trascription of /x/, and something else I can't remember.  It is good?
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Eccentric Iconoclast Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:57 pm
That's -mostly- correct, except for the pronunciation of . represents the phoneme /X/, not /G/. I've also seen it transcribed as /R/, but considering the voiceless nature of all of the other fricatives and most of the language, I strongly suspect it's /X/.
I haven't actually gotten much out of the song yet. I'll have to listen to it and transcribe what I hear before I really know what's going on, I think.
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:01 pm
Yeah, I'm kinda sceptical of that /G/. So you're saying that still equals /x/, but is /X/, right? That makes much more since, with the everything else being voiceless and whatnot as you said, and since there are also /k/ and /q/, /x/ and /X/ would make a heckuva lot more sense than /x/ and /G/.
The only thing weird to me about Aymara phonology is that thar /l_j/. It just seems really weird.
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Eccentric Iconoclast Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:04 pm
It's not /l_j/, it's /L/. I guess I missed that looking through the thinger. ;Þ
-is- a uvular consonant (it's certainly treated so with the allophony), which certainly rules out /G/.
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:59 pm
Eh? Thats even weirder. How the heck do you pronounce that? The recording on the wikipedia page sounds like a guy gargling peanut butter.
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Eccentric Iconoclast Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:56 am
...the hell? (just listened to the sound file on Wikipedia)
Well, you know how [r] is an alveolar approximant, and [l] is an alveolar lateral approximant?
[j] is the palatal approximant, so make it lateral.
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