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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:52 am

I found some other things:
it's 'het bed'

and it's, hobby -> hobby's 3nodding

Zij weet niet hoe ben ik. = Zij weet niet hoe ik ben.

[Z] aankomen (to arrive)---------------aangekomt *lmao with this word xD* it's 'aangekomen'

[H] mogen (may)------------------------gemogen/gemogd (more common)
gemogd? xD that's not dutch, I guess it's an german word?

Wij trouwden het laatste jaar. = Wij trouwden vorig jaar.

Ik zal de brief geschreven hebben. = Ik zou de brief geschreven hebben.
Tegen dan zal hij niet begonnen hebben = Tegen die tijd zou hij nog niet begonnen zijn.
Ik zal naar de winkel gegaan zijn. = Ik zou naar de winkel gegaan zijn.
Tegen dan zal zij gut geweest zijn? = Tegen die tijd zal ze wel beter geweest zijn. (gut = good in german)
Wij zullen al aangekomen zijn = Wij zullen dan al aangekomen zijn.
Ik zou dat spel gekocht hebben, maar het kostte ook veel. = Ik zou dat spel gekocht hebben, maar het koste veel. (you use 'ook' when you're having this conversation like this:"I didn't buy that game because it costs too much" "I didn't buy it too because of the price" )

oh my, I see to many faults in section 14 x_x i'll do that later

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:20 pm

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[H] mogen (may)------------------------gemogen/gemogd (more common)
gemogd? xD that's not dutch, I guess it's an german word?

Should have been gemoogd. Both online sources and my copy of 201 Dutch Verbs are telling me gemoogd is more common than gemogen.

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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:39 am

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[H] mogen (may)------------------------gemogen/gemogd (more common)
gemogd? xD that's not dutch, I guess it's an german word?

Should have been gemoogd. Both online sources and my copy of 201 Dutch Verbs are telling me gemoogd is more common than gemogen.

gemoogd isn't dutch too ^^;
oh I saw 'gemoogd' on a belgium site.. so gemoogd is a dialect, I guess it means 'you may'

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:32 am

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[H] mogen (may)------------------------gemogen/gemogd (more common)
gemogd? xD that's not dutch, I guess it's an german word?

Should have been gemoogd. Both online sources and my copy of 201 Dutch Verbs are telling me gemoogd is more common than gemogen.

gemoogd isn't dutch too ^^;
oh I saw 'gemoogd' on a belgium site.. so gemoogd is a dialect, I guess it means 'you may'

Gemoogd isn't Belgian either...Unless you say it as "ge moogd" when "ge" is than "you"...But still...

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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:15 am

Try telling that to Henry Stern, writer of 201 Dutch verbs.

And to the online translators.

Wikipedia even says something about it in an Dutch article about conjugation tables: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vervoegingstabellen

Perhaps it's purely dialectual. I mean, I kind of doubt that places like South Holland and Groningen have the exact same dialects. Hell, Groningen Dutch is somewhat influenced by Plattdüütsch (Low German), so that could be where it came from. Who knows.

Anyway, I noticed some of your corrections had the word 'wel' tossed around a bit, and frankly that's hard to translate to English. Give me all possible meanings of wel in every context, and I'll be sure to put that in.

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:32 pm

Section 19 - Similarities With German and English

There are many words in Dutch that strike unsurprising similarities to German and English (and in some cases Old English). This will help give a sense of relationship for any German/English learners of Dutch.

Dutch-----------------------German-----------------------English

diep---------------------------tief---------------------------deep
slecht----------------------schlecht-------------------------bad
slapen---------------------schlafen-------------------------sleep
huis--------------------------Haus--------------------------house
muis-------------------------Maus--------------------------mouse
luis---------------------------Laus--------------------------louse
man-------------------------Mann---------------------------man
haar-------------------------Haar---------------------------hair
goed-------------------------gut----------------------------good
fijn---------------------------fein----------------------------fine
zoeken---------------------suchen-------------------------seek
nacht------------------------Nacht-------------------------night
dag---------------------------Tag---------------------------day
deur--------------------------Tür---------------------------door
oud---------------------------alt-----------------------------old
hebben----------------------haben-------------------------have
wit----------------------------weiß--------------------------white
rood--------------------------rot-----------------------------red
blauw------------------------blau---------------------------blue
groen------------------------grün--------------------------green
lopen------------------------laufen-------------------------lope
rennen----------------------rennen------------------------run
helpen------------------------helfen-----------------------help
wassen---------------------waschen----------------------wash
slagen----------------------schlagen---------------------slaughter
zingen-----------------------singen------------------------sing
zeilen------------------------segeln------------------------sail
vis----------------------------Fisch-------------------------fish
vos---------------------------Fuchs-------------------------fox
kat---------------------------Katze-------------------------cat
hond-------------------------Hund-------------------------hound (dog)
meisje----------------------Mädchen---------------------maiden (girl)
niet---------------------------nicht-------------------------not
niets-------------------------nichts------------------------nothing
bro(d)er--------------------Bruder------------------------brother
zus(ter)--------------------Schwester---------------------sister
moeder---------------------Mutter------------------------mother
vader------------------------Vater------------------------father
water-----------------------Wasser-----------------------water
vuur-------------------------Feuer-------------------------fire
aarde------------------------Erde-------------------------earth
wind-------------------------Wind-------------------------wind
licht--------------------------Licht-------------------------light
recht------------------------Recht-------------------------right (just)
vechten---------------------fechten-----------------------fight
zijn---------------------------sein-------------------------(related to Old English sindon - to be)
was---------------------------war--------------------------was
ben----------------------------bin--------------------------am
geweest--------------------gewesen---------------------(related to Old English wesan - to have been)
mogen-----------------------mögen----------------------may
moeten----------------------müssen---------------------must
willen------------------------wollen-----------------------want
kunnen----------------------können----------------------can
komen----------------------kommen---------------------come
gaan--------------------------gehen-----------------------go (related to Old English gan - go)
steen-------------------------Stein-----------------------stone (related to Old English stan - stone)
boek--------------------------Buch-----------------------book
wolk--------------------------Wolke-----------------------welkin (related to Old English wolcen - cloud)
hemel------------------------Himmel----------------------heaven
ster---------------------------Stern------------------------star
maan-------------------------Mond------------------------moon
zon---------------------------Sonne-----------------------sun
vogel-------------------------Vogel------------------------bird
heet---------------------------heiß-------------------------hot
koud---------------------------kalt-------------------------cold
regenboog----------------Regenbogen-----------------rainbow (related to Old English regnboga - rainbow)
zwaard----------------------Schwert---------------------sword
schild-------------------------Schild----------------------shield
boot---------------------------Boot------------------------boat
schip-------------------------Schiff-----------------------ship/skiff
neder------------------------nieder----------------------nether (related to Old English niðer/niþer - low)
kind---------------------------Kind------------------------child
groot--------------------------groß------------------------great (large)
haat---------------------------Hass------------------------hate
engel--------------------------Engel-----------------------angel (related to Old English engel - angel)
duivel------------------------Teufel-----------------------devil
God---------------------------Gott-------------------------God
roos--------------------------Rose-------------------------rose
bloes------------------------Bluse-------------------------blouse
stok-------------------------Stock-------------------------stick
bed---------------------------Bett--------------------------bed
bad---------------------------Bad--------------------------bath
glas--------------------------Glas--------------------------glass
fles-------------------------Flasche------------------------flask (bottle)
zand-------------------------Sand-------------------------sand
muur------------------------Mauer------------------------wall
wereld-----------------------Welt-------------------------world
wat---------------------------was-------------------------what
hoe---------------------------wie--------------------------how
wanneer---------------------wenn------------------------when
waar--------------------------wo--------------------------where
waarom---------------------warum-----------------------why
welk--------------------------welch-----------------------which (related to Old English hwilc - which)
hier---------------------------hier-------------------------here
daar--------------------------dort-------------------------there
door-------------------------durch------------------------through
in------------------------------in-----------------------------in
uit----------------------------aus---------------------------out
van---------------------------von--------------------------from/of

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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 7:49 am

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Gemoogd isn't Belgian either...Unless you say it as "ge moogd" when "ge" is than "you"...But still...

she's right :3

gemoogd just doesn't exist in the dutch languages >>;
as you see, it's not even a dialect
I searched it up on the internet, and i couldn't find something with 'gemoogd' only on some translation site's

and door = deur :p

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:52 am

Homophone. xp

Statistics don't lie, though, as gemoogd is being used. So maybe people are pretending to use a word that's not supposed to exist. All I know is that it's used, you can check for yourself. Every verb conjugator, book, and translator out there is stating that the word does exist, and as long as it does, it must be listed. neutral

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Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:43 pm

Dutch <33 When I went to the Netherlands I'd just go to restaurants and figure out what all the dishes were in English. razz

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