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Robin the elusive

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:50 pm


You know with a fight like that it could go either way easily since it comes down to the pilots not the MSes this time around.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:07 pm


Very true... but.. that's why I posted it.. Someone give out details on the Pilot's abilities.... I want to see what other people's outlooks on the battle would be.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:07 pm


Back to the whole WingZero vs Burning Gundam thing. WingZero would own Burning Gundam because heero wouldn't be stupid enough to let him get in close range. Also Zero system vs normal combat comp, enough said And even if he dodged the twin buster rifle the heat alone from the blast would get rid of him. that's all I have to say on that fight.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:04 am


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Back to the whole WingZero vs Burning Gundam thing. WingZero would own Burning Gundam because heero wouldn't be stupid enough to let him get in close range. Also Zero system vs normal combat comp, enough said And even if he dodged the twin buster rifle the heat alone from the blast would get rid of him. that's all I have to say on that fight.

But getting away from God Gundam. The thing is bloody FAST. I imagine it could catch even Deathscythe in a sprint. And with that much speed plus Domon's reactions and the mobile trace system, I bet he could dodge the buster rifle by enough to keep going on the attack. God Gundam with Domon is insane like that

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:42 pm


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Back to the whole WingZero vs Burning Gundam thing. WingZero would own Burning Gundam because heero wouldn't be stupid enough to let him get in close range. Also Zero system vs normal combat comp, enough said And even if he dodged the twin buster rifle the heat alone from the blast would get rid of him. that's all I have to say on that fight.

But getting away from God Gundam. The thing is bloody FAST. I imagine it could catch even Deathscythe in a sprint. And with that much speed plus Domon's reactions and the mobile trace system, I bet he could dodge the buster rifle by enough to keep going on the attack. God Gundam with Domon is insane like that

Yea but the mobile trace system means any damage the suit takes he'll feel the same amount. Also WingZero Can fly with out the help of a mobile horse. Plus Heero is a battle veteran. He'll not go in and rush to attack like Domon and lose his anger durring a fight.
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:56 pm


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PS is taken into account? Alright, Trowa's screwed against Dearka - though I think Heavyarms Kai had beam gatlings (or maybe I'm just nuts), so he'd need that to put more than a few scratches on the Buster. Sandrock is also similarly screwed against PS if you use that.

On my end, I've been pondering - I already know plenty about Rau, and he only has one really good choice of MS, but I'm not sure about the other two most well known of the masked men.

Char - End of Mobile Suit Gundam, sometime during Zeta, or what? Also, which MS do you think is most suited to him and reflects his individual strengths the most? Hyaku-Shiki is probably technically superior to the Zeong, but it's also a far more generic design.

Zechs - a simpler matter. Is he better off in Epyon or Tallgeese III? Tallgeese III is obviously a stronger, more powerful machine. However, Epyon is far more agile, and also has the Zero System.

Opinions?


The GW boys aren't screwed Trowa in the orginal Heavyarms has his beam gatling so he can rip into Dearka intill he runs out of ammo. Also, he could overwhelm the PS armor with enough missiles I think. That or he can just wait intill the Buster runs out of energy thanks to its battery while Heavyarms has a fusion reactor and can be fighting intill he has no more weapons left and that won't happen intill he loses his knife.

Thankyou at least someone else thinks beyond armor Heavyarms is my 2nd fav because trowa isn't scared to die in battle he has knives thrown at him at his work and doesn't even flinch. So again thanks biggrin

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:04 pm


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Back to the whole WingZero vs Burning Gundam thing. WingZero would own Burning Gundam because heero wouldn't be stupid enough to let him get in close range. Also Zero system vs normal combat comp, enough said And even if he dodged the twin buster rifle the heat alone from the blast would get rid of him. that's all I have to say on that fight.

But getting away from God Gundam. The thing is bloody FAST. I imagine it could catch even Deathscythe in a sprint. And with that much speed plus Domon's reactions and the mobile trace system, I bet he could dodge the buster rifle by enough to keep going on the attack. God Gundam with Domon is insane like that

Yea but the mobile trace system means any damage the suit takes he'll feel the same amount. Also WingZero Can fly with out the help of a mobile horse. Plus Heero is a battle veteran. He'll not go in and rush to attack like Domon and lose his anger durring a fight.

You forget though that he Burning Gundam is a super robot and

hot bloodedness> any GW unit
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:25 am


Missiles? Against Dearka in the Buster? Have you not paid any attention to all the missiles he's shot down with that giant shotgun of his?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:55 pm


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Missiles? Against Dearka in the Buster? Have you not paid any attention to all the missiles he's shot down with that giant shotgun of his?
Yes but again he's only gone against noobs and low ranked soliders. Trowa has a far more closer bond with Heavyarms so that's way he'd win.
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:16 pm


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Missiles? Against Dearka in the Buster? Have you not paid any attention to all the missiles he's shot down with that giant shotgun of his?
Yes but again he's only gone against noobs and low ranked soliders. Trowa has a far more closer bond with Heavyarms so that's way he'd win.

You speak as though Heavyarms is a super robot or Eva. Sure, he knows the thing inside and out, but Dearka also went the whole series in the same Gundam. Oddly enough, this is actually a fight where Trowa wants to get somewhat close to his opponent - Heavyarms is more along the borderlines of middle and long range, while Buster can hit from well outside the range of most MS in the two shows. I'm not saying that Dearka would definitely win, but I do respect him more than most pilots in SEED, so I'm inclined to argue in his favor when I feel I can point a few things out.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:44 pm


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Missiles? Against Dearka in the Buster? Have you not paid any attention to all the missiles he's shot down with that giant shotgun of his?
Yes but again he's only gone against noobs and low ranked soliders. Trowa has a far more closer bond with Heavyarms so that's way he'd win.

You speak as though Heavyarms is a super robot or Eva. Sure, he knows the thing inside and out, but Dearka also went the whole series in the same Gundam. Oddly enough, this is actually a fight where Trowa wants to get somewhat close to his opponent - Heavyarms is more along the borderlines of middle and long range, while Buster can hit from well outside the range of most MS in the two shows. I'm not saying that Dearka would definitely win, but I do respect him more than most pilots in SEED, so I'm inclined to argue in his favor when I feel I can point a few things out.
I can accept your liking of Dearkabut Gundam Wing was the first Gundam Series I saw so I more then likely to lean toward the GW pilots but again views will always be different.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:45 pm


Hm I got new ideas.

Sword Strike Gundam(Kira Yamato) vs Epyon Gundam(Milliardo Peacecraft): A very close battle between Gundams that are made for close range battles, I think Epyon has a good chance of coming out on top since it can transform giving it an advantage in power.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:02 am


FallenAngelWingZero
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Missiles? Against Dearka in the Buster? Have you not paid any attention to all the missiles he's shot down with that giant shotgun of his?
Yes but again he's only gone against noobs and low ranked soliders. Trowa has a far more closer bond with Heavyarms so that's way he'd win.

You speak as though Heavyarms is a super robot or Eva. Sure, he knows the thing inside and out, but Dearka also went the whole series in the same Gundam. Oddly enough, this is actually a fight where Trowa wants to get somewhat close to his opponent - Heavyarms is more along the borderlines of middle and long range, while Buster can hit from well outside the range of most MS in the two shows. I'm not saying that Dearka would definitely win, but I do respect him more than most pilots in SEED, so I'm inclined to argue in his favor when I feel I can point a few things out.
I can accept your liking of Dearkabut Gundam Wing was the first Gundam Series I saw so I more then likely to lean toward the GW pilots but again views will always be different.

Hey, Wing was my first and favorite and favorite as well, and Heavyarms was one of my favorite Gundams... I just have a lot of respect for Dearka's skill and the power of Buster as well.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:14 pm


Robin the elusive
Hm I got new ideas.

Sword Strike Gundam(Kira Yamato) vs Epyon Gundam(Milliardo Peacecraft): A very close battle between Gundams that are made for close range battles, I think Epyon has a good chance of coming out on top since it can transform giving it an advantage in power.


Yes I'm back into this discussion! ^_^ Sorry I've been out for a while.

Epyon would Topple the Sword Strike. The Epyon has more attack power, oddly enough, than the Sword Strike, and more speed. A heat Rod is far superior to Kira's Sword... in every way. Not only can it be mis-directed to feign the opponent, it can also transfer energy at a high rate and kill the systems within the enemy suit... which means that Milliardo could use his superior speed, hit the Gundam one or two times, and take it out.... or simply hit a few vulnerable and critical areas such as the power pack, or Aile pack, and dismantle the mech with it's Beam Blade.

Not only that, but Milliardo is far more superior in piloting skills. Despite newtype powers, Milliardo is superior in every aspect... he's been a pilot of many mobile suits since he was very young... so... In this battle, Milliardo would be the victor.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:20 pm


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Missiles? Against Dearka in the Buster? Have you not paid any attention to all the missiles he's shot down with that giant shotgun of his?
Yes but again he's only gone against noobs and low ranked soliders. Trowa has a far more closer bond with Heavyarms so that's way he'd win.

You speak as though Heavyarms is a super robot or Eva. Sure, he knows the thing inside and out, but Dearka also went the whole series in the same Gundam. Oddly enough, this is actually a fight where Trowa wants to get somewhat close to his opponent - Heavyarms is more along the borderlines of middle and long range, while Buster can hit from well outside the range of most MS in the two shows. I'm not saying that Dearka would definitely win, but I do respect him more than most pilots in SEED, so I'm inclined to argue in his favor when I feel I can point a few things out.
I can accept your liking of Dearkabut Gundam Wing was the first Gundam Series I saw so I more then likely to lean toward the GW pilots but again views will always be different.

Hey, Wing was my first and favorite and favorite as well, and Heavyarms was one of my favorite Gundams... I just have a lot of respect for Dearka's skill and the power of Buster as well.


*Sigh*

First of all, Trowa would be one to look into the enemy before he attacked them. I don't think that Trowa would use the Heavy arms in this situation in the first place.... Simply because he is highly intelligent and a very capable pilot. Now if he were to use the Altron, Sandrock, or Wing Gundam... he would have more than a chance... although I doubt Wufei would allow him the liberty to use the Altron.

Now let's say that this is a spontaneous battle and Trowa HAD to use Heavyarms. Sure, Dearka is skilled at defending himself,... and as shown in the series, as Aona mentioned... he has taken out missle shots...., But let's look at Heavyarms.

Keep in mind, that with Quatre, it shows that these Gundams have some sort of soft core AI... Heavyarms' equipment is NOT you're everyday set of mass produced missiles. The Beam Gatling for the Kai... would not be used in this battle.. Simply put, we're talking about Heavyarms V.1 . That means it still uses ballistics. No matter what, Dearka is going to take damage... and Trowa knows the mech inside and out, so I'm sure he can move around to his advantage. He can also pilot the mech with incredible grace... so avoiding attacks would be no problem.

In the end, I would leave this undecided. I WANT to lean towards Trowa, however, stating facts so people understand him a bit better, I have to say that one of them would retreat or else, die in hand to hand combat with Trowa pulling the pin at the last moment and detonating the area.
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