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 Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:31 am
Mori Bokusochi Dukes Mori Bokusochi Takazawa Now, both consoles are very very good at what they do. So this isn't an attack on you or your beloved console. But you're saying that because a phone made by sony uses bluetooth, Sony owns the technology? Too bad the iMac G5 I'm typing on disproves that. You're not going to convince people the console is good with broken logic.
Dukes is arguing with me over IM at the moment that since Ericsson workers developed the original Bluetooth standard, and Sony folded them into themselves, that Sony therefore owns Bluetooth and all rights to it.
This is not true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_Special_Interest_Group
As I said before. xD
 Now you put words in my mouth.
I never said all rights.
And I disputed your claim that they were only workers of Ericsson, you didn't dispute that fact.
You know... I could just reply to alot of that, but it's really not worth it. Quote: The Bluetooth specification was first developed in 1994 by Sven Mattison and Jaap Haartsen, who were working for Ericsson Mobile Platforms in Lund, Sweden at the time They were only workers of Ericsson at the time the Bluetooth standard was developed. And from what I understood, you said all rights. If that's not what you meant, then that would be an error on my behalf, alright? I'm not certain how you could have meant anything else, though, in the context of the situation... Either way, this dispute could feasibly go on forever and not really get anywhere. Any of the three consoles could win at this point, honestly. It depends solely on the games released and the actions that the companies take, so there's not a lot of point debating based on what we have now: a year of Xbox 360 and about a week since the PS3 and Wii launches. "The specifications were formalized by the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG). The SIG was formally announced on May 20, 1998. Today it has over 6000 companies worldwide. It was established by Ericsson, Sony Ericsson, IBM, Intel, Toshiba and Nokia, and later joined by many other companies as Associate or Adopter members."
The six companies who started the SIG are the ones who get the pie, so it's split six ways, though not evenly.
Anyhow, I don't really care about arguing about this rofl I just hate how people are dumping on the PS3 based on the games available on release, because Sony totally controls the third-party companies that produce those games. >.<
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:36 am
I'm sure Sony will have a lovely line-up later on including GTA and MGS and suchforth.
But 360 and Wii are kicking Sony's a** right now in the console wars. Sony loses money, system is acting glitchy, limited supply, not very good games.
If they can iron those problems out then they'll stand a chance.
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:17 am
I could really care less about this argument, but yeah. xD
360's established and has an excellent online system, Wii is...well, it's the Wii. The PS3 only has a couple games that aren't available on 360 right now, and at least one of those games is terrible. (The Gundam one. xD)
Once we get Metal Gear Solid 4, though, I'll likely take back anything bad I ever said about the PS3, because Metal Gear=<3. xDD
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:38 am
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:33 pm
Bullet Rift I'm sure Sony will have a lovely line-up later on including GTA and MGS and suchforth. But 360 and Wii are kicking Sony's a** right now in the console wars. Sony loses money, system is acting glitchy, limited supply, not very good games. If they can iron those problems out then they'll stand a chance. Sony's not really losing money, Mori and I discussed that last night. And I still haven't heard anyone who can demonstrate it acting glitchy, whereas we have a primary source, Buzz, stating that it isn't. As for the limited supply, that's helping drive up demand, it's a business tactic. Games, they're the Third Party companies' fault, not Sony's.
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:11 pm
Dukes Bullet Rift I'm sure Sony will have a lovely line-up later on including GTA and MGS and suchforth. But 360 and Wii are kicking Sony's a** right now in the console wars. Sony loses money, system is acting glitchy, limited supply, not very good games. If they can iron those problems out then they'll stand a chance. Sony's not really losing money, Mori and I discussed that last night. And I still haven't heard anyone who can demonstrate it acting glitchy, whereas we have a primary source, Buzz, stating that it isn't. As for the limited supply, that's helping drive up demand, it's a business tactic. Games, they're the Third Party companies' fault, not Sony's. Business tactic. Considering how all the systems available sold out pretty quickly and the systems are being shipped out in minimal amounts...I think it's safe to say that if more PS3s were released, more would have sold. A limited supply does drive up demand, but Sony's was a bit too limited.
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:56 pm
Mori Bokusochi Dukes Bullet Rift I'm sure Sony will have a lovely line-up later on including GTA and MGS and suchforth. But 360 and Wii are kicking Sony's a** right now in the console wars. Sony loses money, system is acting glitchy, limited supply, not very good games. If they can iron those problems out then they'll stand a chance. Sony's not really losing money, Mori and I discussed that last night. And I still haven't heard anyone who can demonstrate it acting glitchy, whereas we have a primary source, Buzz, stating that it isn't. As for the limited supply, that's helping drive up demand, it's a business tactic. Games, they're the Third Party companies' fault, not Sony's. Business tactic. Considering how all the systems available sold out pretty quickly and the systems are being shipped out in minimal amounts...I think it's safe to say that if more PS3s were released, more would have sold. A limited supply does drive up demand, but Sony's was a bit too limited. I disagree. Their limited release resulted in such violent acts as people attacking eachother, netting them TONS of free publicity. It's BRILLIANT business-wise.
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:12 pm
Alright....Most of the consoles shipped after release were shipped via private jets to the stores. Sony wasn't prepared. They wanted to get the console out before the Wii so they could have an advantage in sales. I watched a special on G4 on the PS3, a Sony representative came out and explained they were unprepared.
Business tactic my a**. They wanted to get it out earlier, they did, and with short supply. Kthxbai~
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:48 pm
Tickle Me Elmo beats a Wii?! NO WAY!
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:49 pm
Bullet Rift Alright....Most of the consoles shipped after release were shipped via private jets to the stores. Sony wasn't prepared. They wanted to get the console out before the Wii so they could have an advantage in sales. I watched a special on G4 on the PS3, a Sony representative came out and explained they were unprepared. Business tactic my a**. They wanted to get it out earlier, they did, and with short supply. Kthxbai~ Yeah Bullet, that makes total sense. rolleyes Advantage in sales by making less consoles available... yep... -.-
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:01 pm
I'm curious... has anyone here actually formulated strategies for corporations? I'd bet the answer is no... So, why do you think you can figure out what Sony's doing? Hell, if you've listened to enough corporate banter of ANY kind, then you'd realize that most of their explanations and tactics are crap... most...
That's my two cents...both with the bad luck side up... x_x
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:13 pm
Bullet Rift Lemme put it this way: If the games suck a**, it doesn't matter if you can run up to 53497278 ultrahypermegapneumonotera textures or whatever at a time. Games make the system, not the hardware. And Nintendo doesn't steal from Sony. rofl
HirunHikari
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:52 pm
Is this the "Business Tactic" that your'e talking about, dukes? rolleyes
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 9:35 pm
Jeff Jarrett Is this the "Business Tactic" that your'e talking about, dukes? rolleyes
heart Was gonna post that next. ninja
HirunHikari
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:17 pm
Jeff Jarrett Is this the "Business Tactic" that your'e talking about, dukes? rolleyes You make me hurt... really... the ignorance is painful... ;-;
Okay let's try this, just for a second...
Do you think that Sony is obligated to tell the truth about why they only released "X" number of consoles for the first day?
Correct Answer would be: No.
Do you think that Sony would admit, after the chaos that ensued with people being shot, that it was an intentional engineered shortage?
Correct Answer would be: No.
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