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 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:45 pm
Haha "Why I'm pro-life" just turned into a major war thread. Oh the irony.
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:11 pm
lymelady german_bar_wench I know this might have been brought up, but the only supporters of S.89 and HR.163 were democrats. The whole thing was a sham, specifically intended to create fearmongering. lot of that going on. And if the case is that whoever instatest he draft should be punished, well, does that take FDR off the list of great presidents? no, but he wasn't a great president. he threw us into a socialist money-pit and created the abomination known as Social Security. I'd say he was one of the worst presidents in our history, along with Carter. Can you tell i'm a pro-military fiscal conservative?
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:43 pm
german_bar_wench lymelady german_bar_wench I know this might have been brought up, but the only supporters of S.89 and HR.163 were democrats. The whole thing was a sham, specifically intended to create fearmongering. lot of that going on. And if the case is that whoever instatest he draft should be punished, well, does that take FDR off the list of great presidents? no, but he wasn't a great president. he threw us into a socialist money-pit and created the abomination known as Social Security. I'd say he was one of the worst presidents in our history, along with Carter. Can you tell i'm a pro-military fiscal conservative? I would too, but when in Rome.... FDR wasn't terrible. Completely. He was about as good as Bush, now that I think about it. Except Bush isn't such a socialist.
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:16 pm
cascadia But hey, I was all for disarming Iraq and not conquering it, right along with Kerry. wink Not to be rude, but this sounds very... Ah, strange. First of all, how can you 'disarm' a country? That is, without going in just like we did... And second of all, conquering would say that we are taking over. There is no way in hell that is happening, because just as soon as we try to annex it forcefully the people of America will rebel. And why would we want them, anyways? Yes, they have oil. But besides that, they are a rather poor country! We would be stuck with pretty much everyone fighting against us, from outside countries trying to re-liberate it, to every Iraq citizen fighting us. It would be such a drain of money and waste of time... I'm sorry to be insulting, but it's stupid to think that we are being imperialistic and trying to make Iraq ours.
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:54 am
I.Am cascadia But hey, I was all for disarming Iraq and not conquering it, right along with Kerry. wink Not to be rude, but this sounds very... Ah, strange. First of all, how can you 'disarm' a country? That is, without going in just like we did... And second of all, conquering would say that we are taking over. There is no way in hell that is happening, because just as soon as we try to annex it forcefully the people of America will rebel. And why would we want them, anyways? Yes, they have oil. But besides that, they are a rather poor country! We would be stuck with pretty much everyone fighting against us, from outside countries trying to re-liberate it, to every Iraq citizen fighting us. It would be such a drain of money and waste of time... I'm sorry to be insulting, but it's stupid to think that we are being imperialistic and trying to make Iraq ours. Enough about Bush. I'm pissed at John Howard for sucking up to him. If Bush wants to fight his own battle, he should have, instead of whining at other countries to help him. mad
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:31 pm
Elternalmina I.Am cascadia But hey, I was all for disarming Iraq and not conquering it, right along with Kerry. wink Not to be rude, but this sounds very... Ah, strange. First of all, how can you 'disarm' a country? That is, without going in just like we did... And second of all, conquering would say that we are taking over. There is no way in hell that is happening, because just as soon as we try to annex it forcefully the people of America will rebel. And why would we want them, anyways? Yes, they have oil. But besides that, they are a rather poor country! We would be stuck with pretty much everyone fighting against us, from outside countries trying to re-liberate it, to every Iraq citizen fighting us. It would be such a drain of money and waste of time... I'm sorry to be insulting, but it's stupid to think that we are being imperialistic and trying to make Iraq ours. Enough about Bush. I'm pissed at John Howard for sucking up to him. If Bush wants to fight his own battle, he should have, instead of whining at other countries to help him. mad It's customary and I think the legal way to go to ask the UN for help, but if they don't help, that doesn't mean you can't go, it just means you can't go alone. Kerry doesn't seem to understand that, but he's always been about going to the UN and cutting deals. I.Am, much as I love you and your point, we wouldn't be there if there was nothing for us. We didn't go until we were attacked by someone who was being aided by Iraq, no matter how badly he was treating people, we didn't go. We're like that. I mean, I love America, but we're pretty darn selfish. But yeah, if we wanted to take over, we'd start with places much closer to home and eventually try to take the continent before going out to the middle east. At that point, though, it'd be beneficial. All I mean is, it's not entirely ridiculous to fear a dictatorship under America, it's just not happening now and there are previsions in our constitution and foreign policy laws keeping it from happening in the future. In order for it to happen, we'd have to change the laws first. Alright, now, she's right. Abortion forum. I started it, sorry. redface I fully apologize for even mentioning the draft. I feel like Basil in Fawlty Towers. "Whatever you do, don't mention the war!" in that episode, "The Germans." It's also the episode with the talking moose, I think. "I speak english! I learned from a book."
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:54 pm
Originally, I am prolife due to my religious beliefs. I have come to realize I cannot base everything on my religious beliefs as they fail me when my faith is wiped out. I am against abortion because I do not know how to fathom what it would be for a woman to be pregnant and then decide to terminate someone's life for whatever reason there may be. In addition to this is I have heard of abortions long after the fact in my family. I learned last year that I would have a middle brother if it were not for my parent's decision to abort, because he had a genetic defect. And when I see mother's in the mall with their disabled sons, I have to resist the urge to ask them if it was worth it. All I have to do is look at them to know it was. And all I can wonder is how my parents could do such a thing as to kill someone because the DNA had a mistake in it. abortions do not just hurt the child or the mother, but people who learn about the deed long down the road of time.
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:31 am
I am pro-life because it is not right to take away a innocent life that has not even begun to grow & has no say in the matter. The abortionist's mother granted them life. Why can't they to a weaker part of them. They're own blood.
People say that a fetus is a parasite & a parasite does not deserve rights. Well they were a parasite to. Also a fetus is not a parasite. It is a incomplete Human being. Sure it might not look like you yet but wait two years then you will see that he/she is a little peice of you. If you can't handle it then why did you even make love in the first place. Life is waaaaay more precious than pleasure. In life with your baby you will probably discover simple loving pleasure. That to me is one of the most golden moments any one can have. Is with they're parents. They don't have to be bioligical. They just need to be there.
I am also pro-life because I am sick & tired of the forum in Gaia chat Extended Discussion. These pro-choice "Whores" came in & started to have problems with pro-life chosers & drove me & most out. These women had abortions for all the wrong reasons. That realy realy makes me furious when people kill to get more pleasure. It's inhuman.
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:01 pm
Aldka Nesrat I am pro-life because it is not right to take away a innocent life that has not even begun to grow & has no say in the matter. The abortionist's mother granted them life. Why can't they to a weaker part of them. They're own blood.
People say that a fetus is a parasite & a parasite does not deserve rights. Well they were a parasite to. Also a fetus is not a parasite. It is a incomplete Human being. Sure it might not look like you yet but wait two years then you will see that he/she is a little peice of you. If you can't handle it then why did you even make love in the first place. Life is waaaaay more precious than pleasure. In life with your baby you will probably discover simple loving pleasure. That to me is one of the most golden moments any one can have. Is with they're parents. They don't have to be bioligical. They just need to be there.
I am also pro-life because I am sick & tired of the forum in Gaia chat Extended Discussion. These pro-choice "Whores" came in & started to have problems with pro-life chosers & drove me & most out. These women had abortions for all the wrong reasons. That realy realy makes me furious when people kill to get more pleasure. It's inhuman.
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:15 pm
toxic_lollipop Aldka Nesrat I am pro-life because it is not right to take away a innocent life that has not even begun to grow & has no say in the matter. The abortionist's mother granted them life. Why can't they to a weaker part of them. They're own blood.
People say that a fetus is a parasite & a parasite does not deserve rights. Well they were a parasite to. Also a fetus is not a parasite. It is a incomplete Human being. Sure it might not look like you yet but wait two years then you will see that he/she is a little peice of you. If you can't handle it then why did you even make love in the first place. Life is waaaaay more precious than pleasure. In life with your baby you will probably discover simple loving pleasure. That to me is one of the most golden moments any one can have. Is with they're parents. They don't have to be bioligical. They just need to be there.
I am also pro-life because I am sick & tired of the forum in Gaia chat Extended Discussion. These pro-choice "Whores" came in & started to have problems with pro-life chosers & drove me & most out. These women had abortions for all the wrong reasons. That realy realy makes me furious when people kill to get more pleasure. It's inhuman. Sorry I can't belive that those woen do that. Sorry again it just makes me REALY furious.
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:53 pm
lymelady Elternalmina I.Am cascadia But hey, I was all for disarming Iraq and not conquering it, right along with Kerry. wink Not to be rude, but this sounds very... Ah, strange. First of all, how can you 'disarm' a country? That is, without going in just like we did... And second of all, conquering would say that we are taking over. There is no way in hell that is happening, because just as soon as we try to annex it forcefully the people of America will rebel. And why would we want them, anyways? Yes, they have oil. But besides that, they are a rather poor country! We would be stuck with pretty much everyone fighting against us, from outside countries trying to re-liberate it, to every Iraq citizen fighting us. It would be such a drain of money and waste of time... I'm sorry to be insulting, but it's stupid to think that we are being imperialistic and trying to make Iraq ours. Enough about Bush. I'm pissed at John Howard for sucking up to him. If Bush wants to fight his own battle, he should have, instead of whining at other countries to help him. mad It's customary and I think the legal way to go to ask the UN for help, but if they don't help, that doesn't mean you can't go, it just means you can't go alone. Kerry doesn't seem to understand that, but he's always been about going to the UN and cutting deals. I.Am, much as I love you and your point, we wouldn't be there if there was nothing for us. We didn't go until we were attacked by someone who was being aided by Iraq, no matter how badly he was treating people, we didn't go. We're like that. I mean, I love America, but we're pretty darn selfish. But yeah, if we wanted to take over, we'd start with places much closer to home and eventually try to take the continent before going out to the middle east. At that point, though, it'd be beneficial. All I mean is, it's not entirely ridiculous to fear a dictatorship under America, it's just not happening now and there are previsions in our constitution and foreign policy laws keeping it from happening in the future. In order for it to happen, we'd have to change the laws first. Alright, now, she's right. Abortion forum. I started it, sorry. redface I fully apologize for even mentioning the draft. I feel like Basil in Fawlty Towers. "Whatever you do, don't mention the war!" in that episode, "The Germans." It's also the episode with the talking moose, I think. "I speak english! I learned from a book." That was such a funny episode. whee I sat and watched almost all of those in one night with a few friends along with Rocky Horror Picture Show and something else I was too drunk and passed out to remember. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:08 pm
Everything's ok anyway. If you really think about it humans tried so hard to populate the world and when they finally reached a good spot they started having fewer children. I guess we've reached the point where killing our own children before they're born is the only plausible way to control population without a guilty concience.
I think I'll let my children live just so we'll have one too many people so that the earth can no longer sustain us and we all die anyway. Any way you look at it we all die. I'm going to at least give my kids a chance though.
I'm very cynical right now. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:08 pm
Hello,
I am new to Gaia and found this guild after wandering into an abortion thread a few days ago.
Why am I pro-life?
Well, I believe that life begins at conception, and goes until natural death.
I believe that life is sacred, and needs protecting, ESPECIALLY those who cannot defend themselves; preborns, infants, disabled, elderly and the infirm.
I am against embryonic stem cell research, abortion in all cases (I'll be glad to expound on this if you think there ARE times abortion is acceptable), contraceptives (especially those with abortive properties) and the death penalty (except where necessary to protect innocent lives). Basically, I'm a conservative, practicing Catholic! wink
Thank you for allowing me to be a part of this guild, and I look forward to meeting and talking with you all!
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:17 am
Theallpowerfull Everything's ok anyway. If you really think about it humans tried so hard to populate the world and when they finally reached a good spot they started having fewer children. I guess we've reached the point where killing our own children before they're born is the only plausible way to control population without a guilty concience. I think I'll let my children live just so we'll have one too many people so that the earth can no longer sustain us and we all die anyway. Any way you look at it we all die. I'm going to at least give my kids a chance though. I'm very cynical right now. sweatdrop
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