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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:16 pm
Pheranya .: [ Religion has made realize just how incompetent humanity can be and how purposefully ignorant that its leaders make its followers. In a way it was a negative influence, for while it gave me knowledge of how the world works, it also twisted me into a hateful and heartless person. Religion was simply a catalyst that allowed me further view into the truths of the world. Knowledge and Wisdom or not...I was a lot happier before I had such ideas running through my mind. ] :. Are you talking about eastern or western religions? It seems you only have one in mind. Try learning about religions before dismissing them all because of one.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:04 am
My family's Jewish, so I have a fairly similar situation to you. At least, they try to be Jewish, but they're about as Jewish as Olive Garden is Italian-- that is, not much at all. They forced me to have a Bat Mitzvah, same as my brother. When I was a kid, I was actually a believer, sorta. With that also came some bigotry, unfortunately. When I was about 11, I started realizing that it made absolutely no sense. My parents at least respect my lack of a belief, but they don't particularly like it.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:10 pm
Well, even if you want to turn away... You will always be Jewish. I would recommend taking one of those free trips to Israel just for being born Jewish. Hey, it's free why not? But it may be able to explain what your parents were not, nor anyone around you who are Jewish that has any understanding of the structure. Without saying too much here and having them pounce on me, being born Jewish is a special responsibility that one usually does not recognize when they are young. Being young is to naturally be rebellious. I hate when people just take things for granted. But you're born with a winning ticket if you understand what you have. I would not be able to explain here what I mean exactly. It is something you have to see with your own eyes. Send me a PM if you have any questions and I will send you the link. Until then, Baruch Hashem.
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:15 am
I was baptized Catholic when I was born, forced to go to religion classes on Saturdays went to Church like 8 or 9 times, became a Buddhist then became a Wiccan, now I'm Christian and still value my Buddhis and Wiccan beliefs.
I don't know if Christianity has been positive. I'm still opinionated, I'm pro-choice, libreal, gay rights activist, thinks the church is a pile of crap, only believes in the Ten Commandents, thinks Jesus was a stoner...etc. So It's been a month or so since I was converted. I believe in God, but I don't believe he created us. As in we didn't just magically appear out of thin air, he might've paved that way for us and watched us grow as an experiment...but that's just my weird theory.
I think Christians shouldn't really let Christianity control their lives to the point where they can't think freely or act freely. I don't and I'm perfectly fine.
My family isn't all the religious. My grandpa is but he doesn't go to church. My mum thinks she's Catholic and my dad's atheist. I'm surronded by ignorant Christians...it's sad really.
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:46 am
Christianity has always had a negative impact on me and those around me. I live in the Bible belt, where ignorance and prejudice is rampant. If you've ever seen the documentary Jesus Camp, it's like that here.
It's hard to believe that faith has persisted as long as it has in such an extreme manner. Faith was invented to explain what simple peasants in hovels couldn't explain, such as lightening. In the modern world, it simply hinders progress, corrupts children, and destroys lives/relationships.
Other countries are head and shoulders better than America in the medical field because Christianity doesn't tell them that what they're doing to help mankind is "going against God" or "murder". There are actually people in this country who don't believe in global warming or dinosaurs. My friend's husband is one of those people who doesn't think dinosaurs exist because it goes against the Bible.
If you've seen Jesus Camp, I'm sure you'll see what I mean about corruption of children. If you haven't, here's an example of what is seen in the documentary. A young girl likes to listen to music and dance. She tells the people interviewing her that she has to stop dancing sometimes because she believes she's dancing for the flesh and not for God. She says she has to get control of herself and make sure she's dancing for God. Another boy's homeschool lesson consists of learning the reasons global warming is a hoax and that people who believe in evolution will attack them and call them stupid. At one point, an entire room of 500 children fall to the floor and writhe while "speaking in tongues"... Around the middle, they smash cups representing the government of the United States with a hammer.
As for destroying relationships/lives, my boyfriend's family has always had trouble because of Christianity. I'll use them as an example. His father married his mother after they kissed for the first time because it was what was demanded of them by his parents. His mother turned out to be a little coo-coo, and the two had a miserable marriage for many years. His father was a preacher, so divorce was not even an option for almost 20 years. Eventually, they couldn't do it anymore, so they divorced. His father was then out of a job because no church would let a divorced man preach. The conservative dresses that his mother was forced to wear (long sleeves, long hem, high neck) damaged her skin beyond repair. She was very tan, and being forced to wear the dresses after being exposed to the sun all her life and being of American Indian decent, her skin became mottled both pale and brown. His oldest brother felt he had to step up and be the father figure, so he became a preacher. He married a girl who was a ballet dancer. She was then forced to stay cooped up in the house, barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. She became overweight, and is now unable to dance ballet. He finally got the bravery to come out to his mom about his atheism, and we were subsequently harassed over the phone for several months.
I've seen people harassed to tears over their belief or lack thereof. I've seen a program against drugs blame atheists for meth. I've had a teacher who read us one paragraph of information on evolution out of a college text book with many chapters on the subject because she doesn't believe in it. Christianity is just as dangerous as any Heaven's Gate. In instills hatred in people, prejudice too.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:22 am
Like most religiously-molded small-town, a**-backwards dip-shits, I used "gay," as a general word for anything negative. Please, please, please understand that I left this behind over 5 years ago (though it could be more; its not as though I'm counting, though I do wish to distance myself from it). In a way, I suppose I have allowed Christianity to shape me more after I left the faith. Leaving the faith was a gradual but inevitable result. Always one to value logic, I was very unsure about my faith, but I attended church and waited, like a good little meat puppet. I always thought that the adults must know something I don't yet understand...Surely, though, I will in time, and sure enough, I was correct. They did possess something that I did not. It was denial of fact and science in favor of blind faith. This was not enough for me. Looking back, godhatesfags.com was probably the final, resounding deathblow to any scrap of faith that still to my being clung, but for the vast majority of my faith was already dead. This was more the sealing of the envelope, within which waited the already written letter. As I said, earlier, I suppose I allowed Christianity to shape me more after I left it. What I mean by this is, so many religious types view our very belief as immoral, thus I became less moral. Example; today I am getting married, which saddens me. Of course it will not be a religious marriage, though I fear that the sex will be less enjoyable, as it is no longer out of wedlock...Alright, here I joke, but all things sinful are considered more fun, which is just a bit of philosophy that I picked up from religion. Really, to get into this any further, would be more self-psycho analysis and I suppose that I've gone on long enough as it is. Suffice it to say that Christianity has indeed had a negative impact on myself, but to a far greater degree, in my opinion, society as a whole. Now a few further, more reactionistic things that I have to say... King of Calhoun I wouldn't have thought I would be atheist two years ago. But church just pisses me off. They beam in their subliminal messages very subtly, but once you got it, they are easy to pick up on. I sat through a seminar on non premarital sex and an entire hour of evolution bashing. Eventually I turned deist when I dug heavily into science. And here I am a year later, no God and an open mind. Granted, I see nothing after my demise and the thought of it gets me depressed sometimes. Plus, I'm a jaded corrupt pervert. But I despise ignorance more than anything and seeing the world in this light satisfies me more than anything. You pride yourself on open-mindedness, yet you do not accept that there could possibly be a God? Seems a bit unusual, if you ask me. Not to preach, but in order to explain myself, I am an agnostic. I believe that it is illogical to completely discount possibilities that seem improbable until they've been entirely impossible and disproving God is impossible. I do not believe, personally, but I do see the possibility; don't you?
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:10 pm
Matasoga Like most religiously-molded small-town, a**-backwards dip-shits, I used "gay," as a general word for anything negative. Please, please, please understand that I left this behind over 5 years ago (though it could be more; its not as though I'm counting, though I do wish to distance myself from it). I still do that to be honest. Almost entirely in a "tongue-in-cheek" kind of way.
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:02 pm
I'd say Christianity has impacted me both positively and negatively. I was born into a Catholic family, but my parents were C&Es (people who only go to church on Christmas and Easter) and the priest at the local Catholic church refused to baptise me unless my parents promised to start going to church more often. This pushed them away, and my grandfather found an Episcopal church when I was six and started taking me to Sunday school because apparently I'd been asking questions about God. Eventually my parents got back into church, and my mother became a Sunday school teacher.
The church we went to was a nice mixture of traditionalism and openmindedness. Given that it was an Episcopal church, there were, of course, a lot of stodgy elderly people who didn't much care for changing up things like the church music or the order of the service, but when it came to things that count, the church was generally patient and open to other ideas. The priest saw nothing wrong with questioning one's faith, and my Sunday school teachers always taught us the reasons for things being right and wrong - they didn't tell us that the ultimate reason for morality was just "because God said so." We even discussed evolution and learned that it could coincide with our religious beliefs.
The problem came in high school when I fell in with a bad crowd. No, the bad crowd wasn't a bunch of skeezy crack dealers or anything... the bad crowd was a group of Bible Belt Baptists. Refer to Kiki Lucas's post for a general idea of what these people were like. We met daily during our break between classes to study the Bible - every day a student would get up and give a talk about something he/she learned from reading the Bible. Sometimes our teachers would (quite illegally) do the same. Our lessons were sometimes decent, but often included such controversial and offensive topics as "Mormonism Is A Cult And Is Not Christian." This was one that was covered twice, once by a student and again by a teacher (both were from the same church and held the same view). We also met weekly outside of school at someone's house to do a longer Bible study.
I was afraid of Hell. I was afraid of doing "wrong." I wanted to be a good person and do what was moral and righteous. I allowed myself to become one of them and turned my back on my true beliefs that I'd always held, because they told me I was Wrong. When I went to college, I stopped seeing those people, didn't go to church as often due to living two hours away from home, and became friends with a pagan. We don't talk much these days, but I owe her a lot because she helped me begin to see where I was being an intolerant (intolerable as well) bigot. Over the next few years, I grew away from Christianity as I realized the reasons for my belief - I was born into the religion, so I never really questioned its basic mythology during my childhood or teenage years. I started to do so and realized that I don't have good enough reasons to believe. And personally, if I haven't found enough evidence to believe, I think it would be disrespectful to claim that I do believe.
I am agnostic - I haven't found sufficient proof of God's existence, but I don't discount the possibility. I am also an atheist - lacking belief in god(s). Discounting my experience in high school, Christianity has affected me positively because my earlier church experiences helped me form my morals. I've tossed out the "rules" that I can't support logically, but I kept the good ones, and I know why I hold these morals, not just because some invisible dude supposedly said so.
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:50 am
I was never devoutly religious. Once I was through the middle of high school, I no longer believed in God.
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:01 pm
2005 FY9 I was never devoutly religious. Once I was through the middle of high school, I no longer believed in God. Heh, school.... The last catholic school i've been assisting (and i mean, like a normal school) made me turn into an atheist rofl I thank those biology classes i had there... but still they made me pray every morning before going to our classrooms. scream Anyways, before that, i knew everything that the bible said, and it helped me way more to become atheist/evolutionist, seeing some loopholes. I'm not saying that the catolicism/christianism is a total lie, i respect their basical beliefs: Do good to others, and you will have your reward. I don't mind if it's heaven or the beer-volcano land, but it's nice and true. (Yay for Karma too) I just HATE people who believes in every word and comma stated in the bible without trying to think further than that, like the catholic/christian members of the guild heart
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:45 pm
Christianity hasn't really affected me personally at all. I never was Christian, my family wasn't churchily religious at all, so I had no religious family strife, never fell out with any of my Christian friends. While it hasn't affected me, per se, I have learned from it.
Unfortunately, the first thing I learned from some of the more fundamentalist ones is just how hateful, closed-minded, intolerant, blind, and stubbornly set in their ways they can be. Some of the worst parts of humanity that I have personally seen (I Silent Witness at gay pride fests, so I hear my share of protests yearly) have come from Christians.
The second thing I learned from Christianity is that even if a person is religious, they are not necessarily the aforementioned, AND that religion is not a deciding factor in relationships. I found that the bigots are only a few in number. I have very dear friends who are religious on a wide scale, some very much so, some more moderate. I have never had even a minor fight with them on the topic. It's just not an issue. My super-Christian friend and I like to debate, and very civilly, I might add. She's one of the few I have met who acknowledges that she may not have an answer to my question, and she won't judge my beliefs if I don't know an answer to hers. She will think about a question very carefully and then tell me what she thinks. From a very logical format, if you already are inclined to believe in such things. She's the only one I've gotten a straight, concise answer from every time she has one. With the rest of my friends, we just don't feel the need to talk about it. We just hang out.
So Christianity has ironically presented me with both the harshest intolerance I have ever encountered, but also some of the most open tolerance. 4laugh
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