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 Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:27 am
Neko girl Manda Only on page two, but all I can say is, " BATHROOMS ARE SO DIRTY, why should you have to take your baby there to eat?!" @__@ think of all the germs in there, seriously, i mean breastfeeding in a bathroom? you'd be lucky if your baby doesn't get sick while you feed him or her in one......what's wrong with some people? eek eek scream scream
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:35 am
Mara-ani This is a little off-topic, but when I was pregnant I rabidly read any books/websites/forums/articles I could find on all things Baby. Right from the start I was really keen to BF Theo, so I read a fair bit about it- and I came across this article in a magazine about different methods of having children (if you couldn't concieve naturally), and their pros and cons. There was IVF, adoption, surrogacy......anyway to get to the point redface apparently in Western parts of the world, optional surrogacy statistics are soaring. Rich women are paying other women to carry their children for them. Not because they can't, but because they don't want to be "fat" and have stretch marks, or get saggy breasts! these women pay inordinate sums of money to have a child without giving birth. They could use that money to adopt a child in need, but no, they want "their own", like a child is a possession like a car or a yacht. Sorry for getting off topic- but I just think this whole taboo thing about birth and bodies and so on is absurd. Something that is so natural should not be such an issue. giveing birth is suppose to be a beautiful gift...that's so sad......
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Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:42 am
Vita_Numinous antonio_baka_guy Right I've got the shrits so here's my rant. I work as a teachers aide in the local high school here. I'm with the special ed faculty because the grl I'm funded to work with is there also.... [cut].... Then I call him (again) the next day to find out that he's not sure if it's right for her because he doesn't think she can use it. The (expletive)doesn't even know what his daughter is capable of because he hasn't taken the time to (double expletive) learn to communicate to her. scream scream scream *at this point antonio's head explodes* My hubby is a high school English teacher, so I empathise madly with you, there. I had no idea there could be so much stupid from parents!! Some cases of neglect he's seen are insane. So far topping the list: Him dealing with a grandmother that a pregnant thirteen year old was living with. When this student went into labor, they called her grandmother to inform her that they were going to call an ambulence. The woman said absolutely not, and cited how expensive that would be as the reason.... said she'd be right there to pick the girl up. So my husband and some other faculty wait with her and try to be helpful. The grandmother lives maybe two blocks from the school, but all sorts of time goes by. The student is actually progressing through labor very quickly and starts going into hard labor, transition stage. The teachers are getting worried about the grandmother by this time, so they call again to see if she's okay. The woman is still at the house just sitting around. They ask wtf, basically, and the woman answers that she'll be there when her tv show is over. She was letting her granddaughter go through the really scary and painful experience of labor in a high school principal's office because she didn't want to miss a minute of Opra or something! And this not from a parent, but a grandparent! Aren't they supposed to be even more about the spoiling and paying attention to? I suspect the girl got pregnant mostly because no one bothered to take the time to make sure she was living her life safely. Three cheers for euthanasia! omg, that poor girl.....that is sooo unbelievable? i can't believe some people.........that is so sad..........just to watch a tv show? i hope that girl and her baby are ok
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:41 am
YAY stupid people... So I finally decided that regardless of the possible millions of harsh criticisms involving no actual critique that I could recieve and thus piss me off me off on a regular basis I'd go for it and post my art at the art arena. Here's a comment I got On 09-25-2004, Drack-San wrote: nice attempt at anime but its stiil not Which uh...if you look at the art I wasn't attempting Anime at all. Because my preferred Art style is Marvel/TopCow/Darkhorse...you know...Comic style. Picture
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 8:59 pm
.. oi vey.. some people in that thread... i don't have my little bundle yet, but i've lived with a friend who had a baby too and yes i too know there is just no set schedule for a baby. Bravo bravo on what you wrote though loki i agree whole heartedly.. and couldn't have said it any better smile
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:56 am
blah that topic made me ill to my stomach with the idiots rampaging through that thread without basis on a lot of stupid things that were posted. Unfortunately some kids are most definitely without a doubt too ignorant understand or learn, and hopefully grow out of that closed minded stage, but even then some of the adults are just plain out rude. Loki you posted in there like a champ and i applaud you!
It's only sad that some people are to closed minded to try and understand of view it from a different perspective other than their own selfish thoughts of appealing themseles.
*sigh* what's become of the times?
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:37 pm
Quote: It's only sad that some people are to closed minded to try and understand of view it from a different perspective other than their own selfish thoughts of appealing themseles. It works both ways doesn't it? I think that's all I'll say on that
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:35 pm
gamerbabe Quote: It's only sad that some people are to closed minded to try and understand of view it from a different perspective other than their own selfish thoughts of appealing themseles. It works both ways doesn't it? I think that's all I'll say on that ok? sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:41 pm
Nopenname YAY stupid people... So I finally decided that regardless of the possible millions of harsh criticisms involving no actual critique that I could recieve and thus piss me off me off on a regular basis I'd go for it and post my art at the art arena. Here's a comment I got On 09-25-2004, Drack-San wrote: nice attempt at anime but its stiil not Which uh...if you look at the art I wasn't attempting Anime at all. Because my preferred Art style is Marvel/TopCow/Darkhorse...you know...Comic style. Picture
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:42 pm
gamerbabe Quote: It's only sad that some people are to closed minded to try and understand of view it from a different perspective other than their own selfish thoughts of appealing themseles. It works both ways doesn't it? I think that's all I'll say on that
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 10:37 pm
Neko girl Manda gamerbabe Quote: It's only sad that some people are to closed minded to try and understand of view it from a different perspective other than their own selfish thoughts of appealing themseles. It works both ways doesn't it? I think that's all I'll say on that Okay for the most part on this thread it's if you don't like breastfeeding then tuff because I'm going to feed my kid wherever when ever regardless of who is uncomfortable with the idea. And if you don't like breastfeeding then something is wrong with you because it's the natural best way to feed a baby. So when I say it works both ways I mean that if you want people to accept breastfeeding then try to show a little discretion for where you are and actually care that some people aren't comfortable with the idea instead of saying tough titties I'll feed the kid where I want and how I want. Does that make sense? I don't think breastfeeding is ever going to be accepted by our society until the lactation nazi start caring about how other people feel about seeing the whip a tit out wherever they want.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 7:55 am
sweatdrop At the risk of being eaten alive by people, I say that breastfeeding moms should try to find a place quiet and out of the way, for both the baby's sake and for the people around them. Babies, from what I understand, can get really fussy if they're fed in a place that the mom is stressed, the baby is stressed, the environment is noisy or busy, ect, ect. I can't imagine it's comfortable to feed or be fed when you're sitting in the midst of loud, laughing, yelling people like in a mall food court or an amusement park or whatnot. Besides, while I'm not a mom and so I might be off-base here, (while its true that I rarely, if ever, see n****e on a breastfeeding mom... I mean, unless you're -looking- you're not seeing whats in the baby's mouth, you know?) it can still be uncomfortable, just -knowing- that there's a bare breast across the hall. Its covered, mostly, but especially for kids, men, or other women who haven't been exposed to it, its embarrassing. Me, I don't mind, personally. my husband turns seven shades of red, though, just because he's never been around it. I mean, would it be so hard to face away from a crowd or something? I don't propose hiding in the bathroom (Eww germs!) but the women who seem to throw the biggest fit are the ones who literally whip their whole breast out in the middle of a public room. There are polite ways to do this sort of thing... not (and I have -seen- this, and these are the women who give breastfeeding a bad name!!!!) whipping out both their breasts, playing with the n****e to see "which one will give the best milk" and then putting the baby on, leaving their shirt rucked up around their neck. Most people will agree with me, in saying "Waaaay too much to see" especially in the mall food court facing the doors. I am -well- aware this is not what most moms do. I'm not saying that its something that everyone does. But, (just like not all kids are ignorant or stupid, but those that are can't keep their mouths shut, and so give us all a bad name) some moms are rude and inappropriate like that and so give all moms a bad name.
[rant] And while I'm on this topic, might I mention that not all teenagers are ignorant and stupid? While ED and GD might lead you to believe otherwise, there are many, many teens and young adults who are well thought out and who use fact or experience to determine their opinions. You cannot hold it against them to use experience, although it may be more limited than your own. Each of us judges people less on fact and more on our experience or our opinions. Look at any rant thread, at any "Debate" thread. The best part of it is that really, noone is to determine who is right or wrong, because that would be generalizing. Breastfeeding, like anything else, is a case-by-case judgement. A discreet mom who politely turns away from the general public and keeps herself covered with her shirt (except what is needed to be exposed, of course) cannot be judged or accused by the same base as a mother who bares all during a feeding like a mommy striptease. By the same count, a child or teen who has had no exposure to breastfeeding cannot be judged or condemned due to their opinion the same way a child or teen who grew up with mom feeding his or her sibs could be. I admit that ignorance is no place to form an opinion, but if you don't have the chance to be exposed, or if your only exposure to -anything-, be it breastfeeding, childbirth, or cotton candy is a negative one, then you will, of course, form a negative view. If you've never been exposed to your topic of choice, but your imagination can provide with a rather nasty or unsettling image, then you would also have a negative view. If your mother always told you that bottle is better and breastfeeding is an act that should be kept out of public, you will believe that. Any or all of those opinions, while phrased inappropriately in several *read most* cases, the opinion is legitimate, regardless of whether its for public feeding, against it, or simply a rant from an uneducated person. Instead of flaming or ranting about it, perhaps a simple effort at education. If they reject it, then so be it... its not our place to talk behind their backs, so to speak. I read through a good deal of that thread, and as a not-mom-yet, I can still look at it and say "I can see where they're coming from." Most moms, I would assume, don't think about the sexual breast-concept when they're breastfeeding, but to a teenageer who spent his whole life looking forward to the breast as a sex toy, I imagine the idea of it having a practical use is disturbing. I know that there are -parents- who still have trouble getting used to their fun toy being used for a practical purpose. Stupid people aside, (Those who sit there ranting about horrible babies this, and filthy babies that), most of those kids have a legitimate point. They just don't have the capability or the vocabulary (or maybe just the brain cells) to express it the way it should have been expressed.[/rant]
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 9:07 am
Kyoki Marie [rant] And while I'm on this topic, might I mention that not all teenagers are ignorant and stupid? While ED and GD might lead you to believe otherwise, there are many, many teens and young adults who are well thought out and who use fact or experience to determine their opinions.[/rant] I don't think anyone here is calling teens and young adults ignorant and stupid, since most of us in here are young adults ourselves. It is the majority of the ones that we see... because of course the stupid ones are a lot more vocal about their opinions.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:28 am
Not ALL teens are stupid or ignorant. We have several teen members here who are VERY mature and respectfull. My problem is the actual moronic ones who ruin it for the nice teens.
And on Gaia, unfortunately, the absolute worst traits of teens is shown most often. So that gives them all a bad image because of the stupid ones. 9 and a half times out of ten, if someone is making an a** of themselves in ED (or elsewhere on Gaia), they are under 17 years old. That's just probability and statistics for ya.
However, you do have wonderful teens who are great to hang around. Like LadyElla, Nehru, Boombanda and many, many others.
So, no, no one here is saying that ALL teens are stupid or naive, just that a LOT of the ones here on Gaia who "act out" the most, are stupid and naive.
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:40 am
My landlords stupid daughter is FINALLY leaving. Well, my sister said she is moving into a new place tomorrow. FINALLY. Her older son just joined the band at school and plays thr trumpet... well, attempts to at 7 in the morning. Nooooo everyone upstairs is trying to SLEEP at 7 in the morning. We stay up until 1am or so and are quiet. They should be too.
Today is garbage/recycling day so I collected all the garbage and put it in a green bag and brought it out to my garbage can outside to take to the curb. Guess whose garbage is in there? Not like she has a garbage right beside the door to the basement which a friend of my landlords comes by to collect every few days (she dosen't even have to take it to the curb). So I took her garbage out and left the bag in the spot where the can goes. I wonder what she will have to say about that. I mean, just because it is empty, dosen't mean you can use it. Other people have garbage too.
(not really *that* stupid, but I thought it was better to post here than to make another thread)
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