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Formerly called the NCS, this is a place for communists and socialists to talk about communism and socialism. 

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Le Pere Duchesne
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Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:33 pm


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if we encouraged exploitation in the name of our objectives we would be being counterproductive.


and yet you make no mention of how.

now im not being evil or attacking you, im just saying that you should explain why.

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and so it would be nonsensical for us to even consider supporting it.


no, this claim of his is rational, but the thing is this, it is only rational as far as formal logic goes. but communists are meant to be dialecticians, and it is through dialectics that we see that formal logic is utter crap.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:37 pm


Gracchvs
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if we encouraged exploitation in the name of our objectives we would be being counterproductive.


and yet you make no mention of how.

now im not being evil or attacking you, im just saying that you should explain why.

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and so it would be nonsensical for us to even consider supporting it.


no, this claim of his is rational, but the thing is this, it is only rational as far as formal logic goes. but communists are meant to be dialecticians, and it is through dialectics that we see that formal logic is utter crap.
Because our goal is to support the workers unconditionally. Our goal is to promote a fair and just society. Our goal is to promote equality.

By working against these ideals, we destroy our credibility with the working class. We harm those we set about to help. We betray our own ideology.

Lady Merewyn


Le Pere Duchesne
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Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:08 pm


ah, now you sound better.
it seems however you are more opposed to this on principle, as opposed to the evilness and the counter-productiveness of his ideas.

that is good. principled opposition to petty bourgeois conciliationism is good.
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