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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:08 pm
 "Oh I can believe it," Topaz said, grinning. "Biggest hands I've seen belonged to Imps and Grimms, and while they don't compare even with all that fur they also have claws. I've seen them do some pretty delicate things. But some stuff is just inherently harder because of the size of their hands. I do a lot of restorations, both as a hobby and source of income, and I've handled a few things that would be quite difficult to handle without smaller fingers. I suppose tools could be used as a substitute though," she added, trailing off thoughtfully. It would probably be more tedious, but if it got the job done then why not? Another thought occurred to her. "Are either of your races known for being particularly talented magically, or do you feel physical qualities define your people more," Topaz asked, directing the question towards all three on the stage.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:10 pm
 Cillian's question struck a nerve, and the mention of laws forbidding loving couples from having children together... ooh, that smarted. "I'm going to state that we shouldn't judge an isolated culture for asking about something that's only really been commonplace here for a couple generations," the kumiho said, hoping some people would consider this and quiet themselves.
"We justify hybrids the same way we justify the continued existence of any race. All races are simply composed of people. We've got different cultures, different backgrounds– and all of that can be shared when our culture integrates." Integration, not assimilation, they hoped the Sluagh would notice, even if the answer was directed at Icarus.
"We're unique to each other, even within a race– and all of the people I relate to most closely are non-Kumiho. If two people want to have a kid together, and the stone isn't going to awaken sickly or die from the circumstances of imbuing and awakening, then what right do we have to look down on a child for being different, or less individually-skilled at a specific racial magic? They're something new and special, brought forth not for some humdrum ideal of blood purity or cultural preservation– they're just... people. Like most purebloods, I'd imagine, aren't born specifically because the blood needs to stay pure and the bloodline needs to continue.
"Every race has as much right to continue existing as any other, to our laws, and to have the right of self-determination. Below, we don't have any legal right to judge a person for being born, or for any number of consenting adults for loving each other. As long as the children are born healthy and given love and support to grow into healthy adults, why should anyone care who their imbuers were, or who they're raised by?"
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:18 pm
 Florence cocked his head to the side. He tried to time his own questions in between the other questions and answers going on all over the place, and hoped he wasn't interrupting any of the other responses. "Why is it illegal," Florence asked. It was quite strange to him. Of course there would always be those that would prefer to keep to their own race, but that was personal choice rather than law. To have laws making it illegal to imbue with others of ones own kind, even if they were a different subset, made Florence wonder why it was so. Did it cause health problems? "My dad says when solar and lunar Fey imbue together that the child will either be one or the other. My grandparents are actually solar and lunar, but I've never met them before. Does it not work like that for Cherubs? Is it dangerous for the stone if they have a solar parent and a lunar parent?"
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:19 pm
 Ledie frowned, she waited for Yue to speak before asking. "Why is it illegal?? As an elf I'd be really sad if I had to marry an elf. I know my mommy and daddy wanted me to marry a noble elf, but I didn't and don't wanna.." She said softly "Learning about and compromising with someone you love is neat!! I read that Geists play funny tricks on the one they love, maybe I'll marry geist when I grow up." Ledie said on a cheerful note.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:19 pm
Illegal. Hitotsu's ears flicked at the word. Illegal to intermingle. He wondered why, but looked to his son and his sister before he even considered asking. He had two young lives, two hallowed children in his care. One born from an accidental awakening at the wrong time of year, and the other made of his own arrogance and wish to rebel. He could understand why it might be illegal, it should have been in his case, at least until he got his head on straight.
He gently set Shisume--his sister--down from his lap and rose to stand, carefully collecting his tails so they didn't trip him or anyone else as he approached the mic. He had to consider the wording carefully since he knew all about secretiveness and rules that seemed stifling and silly out in the world.
"I second what my fellow kumiho just said." He began. "But I remember all too well the stigma of having children with those not of my own kind, and how the first thing you might do when away from those rules and laws might lead to a lapse in judgement. I don't regret mine for a moment. I have a son I am honored to have, and a sister who is a pleasure and a joy. Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I don't seem to have caught why it's illegal for your people to interbreed, if you Icarus or one of your companions wouldn't mind answering."Embi-Lamb Even though he has two people with him, neither of them are going to speak, they're just there because Hitotsu would have them with him.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:20 pm
 It…was…illegal? What… why would you? Even in below it was just highly frowned upon during the time races weren’t so friendly with each other. Then again she was looking at it from her own personal views and views from below. It wasn’t very archeologist of her. So she took a breath and cleared the thought out of her head. There wasn’t enough information to cast judgement. “Are there health problems to imbuing between the different races or is more a cultural reason?” she asked neutrally. She wasn’t going to cast stones. It wasn’t their place. “As to your question, I was always getting made fun of and well outcast growing up. Everyone thought I would steal their stuff. I… well I hated other people. Then I realized that wasn’t how to handle things. I wanted to learn more about different cultures. Both of us had grown up at the academy so we weren’t tied to the classic traditions of our people. I wanted to learn about fallen, and apparently my personality fascinated Draven so he started wanting to learn about geist culture so he could understand me. We made time to understand the other’s people. We worked together. He would leave out stuff for me to steal and I’d give him the alone time he needed when he needed it. When things clashed, we’d cool our heads off and then sit down to talk. If you don’t talk and aren’t willing to compromise and listen then you can’t understand the other person.”total points: 5
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:36 pm
 Icarus was impressed and mystified by the amount of voices that had something to say about the issue of hybrids. One the one hand, of course they would argue for hybrids. Most of the people in the room were parts made up of many different races mashed in to one being. It made sense then, when addressing a room of largely cross-bred individuals that the answers would be in favour of hybrids. Instead of addressing one individual in particular, Icarus decided to address the room. ”A long time ago, the Cherub's and Sluagh’s very existence was threatened, and much like was previously believed, we were at risk of being wiped off the face of Above. The need to keep the bloodline pure, plus irreconcilable differences between the lunar and solar alignments lead to laws being put in place to prevent alignment mingling and breeding, and to help prevent anymore civil wars. While the solar and lunar cherubs share blood, their mentalities and aptitudes vary greatly from one another, causing a natural divide we have grown to respect and utilize to our advantage. In an attempt to explain … if two lunar fey parents get together, it is guaranteed that when they imbue they will have lunar children. If two lunar cherubs imbue, they are not guaranteed a lunar child. Solar cherubs do not fit in with the lunars, and vice versa. We do not even allow lunars to raise solar children, or solars to raise lunars. Our alignments must remain separate.
Believe me, love is very high on our list of priorities, at least for solars. Lunars are far less inclined to follow that inclination, and if I may be so bold, Daedalus, love is often not even a consideration among the lunars. We may be of the same race, but as our names suggest, we are as different as the sun and the moon. We represent different morals, viewpoints, and ways of life, and we excel at different things. We respect that our two societies do not understand one another. We respect that the solars have their religion and devotion to the Nine, and the lunars have their science and alchemy. That is why we must stick to our own alignments: for kinship; for stability. Our roots must not be lost. The balance we have struck with the solar and lunar societies is a delicate one, and while it may not make sense to others, it works for us.”
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Ebonrune rolled 1 10-sided dice:
4
Total: 4 (1-10)
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:46 pm
While calling it illegal seemed somewhat extreme given that explanation, Hitotsu could understand that reasoning and he nodded before heading back to the children in his care so they could fight over his lap and both try to fit on it.
Charon made a disgusted face. While the multi-tailed kumiho seemed satisfied with that answer, xe thought it was flimsy and weak and had no issue saying so.
"Purity leads to weakness." Xe said. "After a while, it leads to weakness. Kumiho, back me up here. Your imbuing stones were weak, right? You were losing children that shouldn't have been lost. Hybrid children tend to be strong and healthy, am I right?" Charon looked around for support before xe looked back at Icarus. "If solar and lunar Cherubs sometimes end up with a child of the opposite alignment, then maybe the Nine are trying to tell you to get over yourselves."Embi-lamb OMG, the attitude going on here. I'm so sorry/not sorry. razz
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:53 pm
 Icarus gave a simple, easy shrug. He expected such criticism and seemed wholly unphased. ”Before our two societies rejoined, lunars and solars were producing children of the opposite alignment. It wasn’t until we had to put aside our differences to work together that children of opposing alignments were allowed to remain within city limits. Lunar children born to solar parents would be disowned, and the same for solar children of lunar parents. Nobody’s history is perfect. Today, we have many systems in place to protect children. Lunar children born to solar parents are taken in to the towers and begin their schooling to hone their innate skills, while solar children without parents are taken in to the churches where they learn about religion and tend to become priests and priestesses. Sometimes a child will be given to a foster family of the same alignment. Our system works for us, and none of us disagree. Those who break our laws are dealt with accordingly, though we rarely have issues with law-breakers on the matter.”
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:54 pm
 Styx blinked, rubbing an arm at her buzzing skin as she considered how to ask her next question. How strange that two Solars could have a lunar child, or the other way around! How... unique. "If... if two lunar parents could have a solar child, what is the concern with mixed imbuing within your race?" the Naiad asked, somewhat confused at the legal separations between imbuing if there were additional laws in place to prevent a Solar child to be brought up by Lunar parents.
"It would seem that the child would be guaranteed a parent to raise them then, would it not?"
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:58 pm
 She was glad she hadn't cast stones. She could understand a culture's need to keep their roots and their customs. It looked like it had been taken a bit far but then a lot of things had happened due to the war. However Draven had been like that interested in only art and music and history before she had met him. Yet they had still worked things out. Their children where raised with both fallen and geist traits. They understood both their cultures. "I think I want to add on to what I had been saying about hybrids. I talked about how I sat down and talked with my husband so we both understood where each other where coming from. We give that to our children as well. I am working to be an anthropologist so I make sure that my children know their roots. Even the ones I have adopted and aren't geist or fallen. I make sure they know their people's culture and their roots or at least as much as we know about them."
"As another question, Cillian mentioned that at least Sluagh were not hurting like others forced into assimilation? Is this also true for the Solar and Lunar Cherub? How are your populations doing now?" Yue asked hoping once again that she wasnt stepping on any toes. Since apparently there where other people here for that. No calm down, no face palming. She could get through the day with out face palming. total points=5
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:02 pm
“Cherubs have very strict social expectations. Everyone is expected to pull their weight to keep the city running, safe and well kept. If two lunar parents had a solar child, they would be unable to care for their needs, and the child would likely pass on to join the Nine. Lunars are incapable of caring for solar children, as are solars for lunar infants. Lunars have vastly different schedules compared to solars. Lunars wake up at dusk, while solars go to bed at dusk. Trying to force a solar child to follow a lunar schedule is incredibly detrimental to their health and well-being. It causes all sorts of mental anguish and behavioural disorders, and well as physical ailments. Ultimately, it boils down to child abuse in our society. Why not set children up to succeed? Staying with the opposite alignment will only cause suffering to the child.”The flowery, silken tones of Icarus’ previous answers had all but disappeared. There was no smile left on his face, his eyes fixed on the crowd and brows furrowed together. Perhaps Cillian’s previous shortness could be pardoned after all.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:08 pm
 The current topic was enough to distract Topaz from her previously asked questions, though she didn't forget them entirely. "What about the stones found here," Topaz asked. "If I understand correctly, they've been placed into various homes. If your races are nature over nurture, even with the best of intentions at heart, what do you think might happen to any of the children whose guardians fight to keep them? Do you feel it might be detrimental to their well-being, or, because many places in Below are quite culturally diverse, do you think they might very well flourish?"
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:09 pm

Oh now he'd done it. Justify. Honestly there was no way that wasn't going to backfire on Icarus. Cillian almost felt sorry for the Cherub. The outcry that followed was expected- there were many hybrids in the room! And further explanation that it was illegal... coupled with some remarks tossed his way, well... Cillian unlaced his hands, spreading them out over the table as he took in a deep breath.
First, to Yue. "I see. I apologize if my question was framed in an offensive manner. I will explain further in a moment." He looked to Charon next... A Geist/Naiad? Hallowed... "Icarus proposed the idea of a question and answer booth. A more Sluagh appropriate way of handling this manner would be the opposite, and with similar social leaders. Out of the Inner Circle, I am the most... open to the possibility of integration. That is why I am here." He shook his head, "I do not think myself too important to deal with any of you. I think... it is necessary to divulge some history. From a Sluagh perspective, as you have now heard the Cherub's." He glanced to Icarus, wondering just how fast his mind was racing.
"Sluagh have a long history of displacement, near extinction, and cultural history being destroyed. We have moved from place to place for centuries, we could not pinpoint out exact origin even if we wanted to. We settled on Elysium several hundred years before the beginning of the war between Above and Below. The Cherubs settled after, our homeland was promised to them as we had been forgotten by the rest of Above and the land was thought to be empty. I wanted to know how outcasts are handled among Below because for the longest time, the way we were handled was with violence. We are not keen to repeat it." He maintained an tone throughout his explanation, eyeing Charon as well as Chaesh as he spoke. He looked to Icarus as he started up his explanation for the illegality of hybridizing...
"There is no specific law against imbuing with outsiders as far as Sluagh are concerned. However it would breach our relative safety and is therefore considered extremely taboo. We do not imbue with the Cherubs based on their own laws." Now, some less sensitive questions...
He looked to Topaz again. "Most Sluagh are infertile. We do not have a particular penchant for magic, so we tend to favor physical abilities or mental talents. Those of us who are magically inclined are strongly encouraged to seek magical education, most later end up as leaders in some form or another." With Icarus dropping the hybrid bomb he figured it was time to stop giving non-answers. It seemed that Icarus was growing weary from the crowd's outrage, he'd already lost his sing-song tone. Quite a rare sight, Cillian wasn't sure he'd ever seen it happen.
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:11 pm
 Styx looked a little taken aback by Icarus' response, her already usually big and mirror-bright eyes as wide as saucers. "Th-that's not what I asked," she responded, a little shocked. She swallowed reflexively, trying to fight tears. This had been a bad idea, after all. She hadn't meant–!! "I-I wasn't questioning your social structure, it clearly wo-wo-works for you. I was... was merely... I... I ap-pologize." The buzzing on her skin was louder than ever, promising to drown out any sort of response. This... this was no good. She felt dizzy.... Without so much as a nudge from someone else, she dropped.
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