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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 5:32 pm
Everything was still and silent. The subdivision wasn’t very active anymore as a small gust of wind came flowing by. Multiple suburban houses lined the streets, as all of them were made of mortar and brick, 2-3 floors, blood stained, white picket fences and lawns strewn with dead bodies laying about on the sidewalks and out on the streets. That’s what one silhouette with a Cheshire grin would see, as he would peer out the window and see a lone boy out in the cul-de-sac. Just one, and, despite the scene, he was laughing, smiling, and having quite the fun. Pulling armor clad foot back, he let go and swung out with all his strength. The foot ran through a single ant hill. Bits and pieces of red and orange specs of gravel and sand went flying, as a flood of tiny, 6-legged, super bugs came out to defend their territory, but, alas, it would be to no avail. Though they can lift anything 50 times their weight, they still weren’t a match for the giant. The ground below their tiny feet began to blow up, as one by one, they began to become electrocuted. Small, black, burnt spots patterned the ground, as the ants become roasted. “I am your God! Bow before me or get smited, b***h ants!” The five-foot-five teen laughed. Sixteen years old, he adorned full samurai armor. The upper body and hakama he wore a firebrick red. Around his neck is tight-skinned rubber and high collar that went up to his chin. His hair was put up in a long black pony tail. Taking a step back, his heavy, metallic shoes fell down harshly on the ground, as he pulled out a long sword which he held at his side. Swinging it side to side, he devastated the ant hill like he did the entire town. Nothing could stop him. Murder and blood was what fueled his aspiration for power. He IS Aspiration. Arcs of searing solstice prelude beamed through the congregation of towns, and their humankind, however in this desolate midsection the spirits of this inhabitance had vanished revealing the shell of their physical beings. The arid smell of rotting flesh corroded the atmosphere, the air appeared unfitting for the surrounding mass to breathe, it was cluttered as the ground, except it was coated with the thick crimson liquid substa [04:50] liquid substances of vital fluids. The shattering breath of remince then repulsed into the sound barrier, bearing clutter to the human eardrum, the mere sound of mangled ribcages strewing their pasts in desolate union, to display themselves to the next victim that would have been felled by the hand of the being that sauntered slowly to the same cul-de-sac that the member of youth resided, killing innocent creatures as if a inhuma [04:50] as if a inhuman recreation. Standing 20 feet away from the youth was another man that of a sadistic wrath wrought the atmosphere of the parameter, suffocating it as the being of might merely ambled in. The being looked as if it was the very one that threatened to bring down the mightiest of foes, all that could be seen of his facial outline where a silhouette of a face, silver shoulder length hair that restrained ebony colored de [04:51] colored decidedness that hung in predominant streaks through the locks of hair, that rustled with the winds visage. Standing poised, the shadows of the sun cascaded over the meager abidance of an obsidian hued cloak that faltered with the similarities of the wind, and it was the thing that veiled his facial features, lace like chains hanging at the neck before allowing two outcasting layers to expose themselves to the radiance of [04:51] light that crashed around the male. Almost upon recognition of the youth, a mighty shriek of malice exploded from the depths of the hood, the sound mocked that of shattering glass as the herculean sound waves caused the hood to whip from his face, revealing his face to be in two separate patterns of colors, one being the deepest tine possible, one being the purest, the cause being that of facial paint or something mimicking that [04:51] mimicking that origination.
Aspiration was having a SHOCKINGLY good time zapping all of the ants. One by one, he annihilated ever last one. The denizens of the underground were running, fleeing, terrified, as they had their own many pandemic like that of the lowly citizens that once lived in all of those homes before. He pointed his fingers like guns; shooting them all down. As he did so, he made bang and pop sounds like they were real guns. This was just like that game on the computer. The one where you get to play as God, and the world is your playing field. It would have been great, if only he didn’t show up.
The sound of glass breaking echoed throughout the neighborhood and emanated from behind the youth. Shocked, surprised, and caught off guard, the boy would have immediately turned around, and with his already juiced fingers, he would do a complete 180 and instantly begin electrocuting the male that had stood behind him, just 20 feet away. It was lightning that left his fingers. Pure, fast, and powerful, the bolt would have electrocuted the male on contact and burn him, if not disintegrate the male.
With his turn, a humming sound began to originate from his body, as a swirling mass of impurity, darkness, and shadow stretched from his feet. The mass would have stretched out and run the boy’s entire length and flank in doing so, burning leaves found their way out of the pool and fell to the ground. “The hell! Are you trying to give me a heart attack?
* Resurgence The crackling of the nible digits where spelled out, it was almost a sign as he saw the male's muscles tense as he spanned a complete 180 degrees. At the instant the foe mved, he swung his hand in a position around the place that he knew would be the first target, because of the adjacent coordinate of the adversary's attack. Raising his right appendage into the air, fingers curled around a place in space, something that appe [05:39] Raising his right appendage into the air, fingers curled around a place in space, something that appeared to be inanimate by any that might be specating. The speculation however conceived caused a flash of brilliance, blissfull celestial light drew vivid curtians over the man's armspan. At the second of the altitude measure, the lights subdued revealing that of a ten foot pole, being held in one palm as if it somehow weightless. The [05:39] the lights subdued revealing that of a ten foot pole, being held in one palm as if it somehow weightless. The weapon, now being pulled between his index and his thumbs, shone with a decitic cerulean visage, mirrored with the color of glacial impact, toning half of the weapon, the layer of steel that was nt available on the planet formulated its restitude within the male's fingers. With the weaponry within his palm, he drew it along t [05:39] formulated its restitude within the male's fingers. With the weaponry within his palm, he drew it along the air before slamming it into the bolt of lightning that attempted to destroy him, however the lightning coarsed throughout the area it had strucken, and stopped as the metal was not a conductor to the bias of electricity or flame. Continuing the movement of the rod, he sliced through the atomosphere only to cause slicing winds t [05:40] or flame. Continuing the movement of the rod, he sliced through the atomosphere only to cause slicing winds to pierce the wind, breaking the ground as they traveled at breakneck speeds towards the foe.
As Aspiration shot out a bolt of lightning towards his opponent, the b***h lurched forward with a rod in hand. In reaction to the pole that moved forward, the dark mass expanded forward to protect him, but it wasn’t the rod it protected him from. It was the wind. As the dark shadow widened and covered Aspiration’s front, it engulfed the slashing winds and halted the destruction of the ground below. In doing so, it stopped the ground from shaking, as sewage began to slush back and forth underground.
The humming sounded that originated from the boy strengthened to unimaginable levels, as it became ultrasonic. The sound stung the air, as the high frequency, oscillating air particles increased in decibels. The windows of the houses shattered instantly, as their structure gave way to the energy emitted. Entering the ears of any living being, it would surpass the audible pain threshold. Flowing through the body, it would shake everything within and create a sense of nausea. One would begin throwing up, convulse, and lose focus, as everything would spin around and multiply. Images of dark ink blot masses ripping through space became ubiquitous, dropping brown objects down onto the ground which hurriedly slinked and took up root within the earth’s crust and concrete, as the sky darkened overhead.
Color changing ocular features gazed beneath the curtains of ivory and the dark shade of ebony. Flicking his cranium into an upward stance, he heard the sound of the reverberated humming that oriented around his opposition. Placing his palms over his ears a small yell of agony was spurted from the male's vocal cords, before a light grin befell the man's facial features. At the moment of desolation, it was seen that the male [06:53] before a light grin befell the man's facial features. At the moment of desolation, it was seen that the male was shifting in peculiar fashions, almost as if he was not flesh. The grueling fact was however true, his form was made of the same kind of atmospheric gas as the planet of Venus held ownership over, compacted in such a way that it had the exact same pigmentation that a piece of humanity could house. Now was his chance, e was [06:53] Soo Note Pad can you explian to me how rp battles work here? : D [06:53] way that it had the exact same pigmentation that a piece of humanity could house. Now was his chance, e was not harmed by the meager beings of sound waves because he himself had no vital organs, and was made of highly compacted gas that had unknown potential, however something more was stirring. From around where his slicing winds where paused, the wind settled, almost as if finding rectitude all around where the opponent was located [06:53] where his slicing winds where paused, the wind settled, almost as if finding rectitude all around where the opponent was located, however the true potential of the slicing winds where about to be discovered at speeds that where unknown to man. At the moment of finding subtle rest the particles around him began to compact and become so tightly intertwined that the foe was forced to remain paused within the parameter of the noxious gas [06:53] compact and become so tightly intertwined that the foe was forced to remain paused within the parameter of the noxious gas that was released in the form of wind. With the entity of this strange gas formation it began to break cells apart, around his opponent’s visage was desinigrating as whatever caught in the gas began to slowly decelerate, breaking apart into millions of pieces as well as causing the gas to spread, slowly engulfi [06:53] began to slowly decelerate, breaking apart into millions of pieces as well as causing the gas to spread, slowly engulfing a wide parameter as it feasted on the area it had began formation with.
As the air itself became toxic and corrosive in nature, Aspiration’s being began to dissolve and become broken up into particles, but it would not continue for long. The dark mass, began sucking the air into itself. Compact it may be, gas is gas. When a vacuum is set forth, the gas WILL go into it. The gas that has been unleashed thinned out until the original air came to and the gas would be gone. His face was destroyed and was without recognition. Armor melted and eroded, the figure of the male was barely distinguishable, but one true fact remained. He was still there.
An utterance of disembodied laughing sounded throughout the subdivision, as rain poured down from the heavens. A giant mass of the darkest of shadows appeared in the center of the cul-de-sac just a bit ways off from Aspiration and the other man. The mass formed a black face with a wide Cheshire grin on it. Opening wide, darkness spread out through multiple shadow portals, and it connected all together into one mass. The darkness spread out rapidly in less than 2 seconds. Everything went black, as all was shrouded within darkness. The light from before was taken away and repelled. The neighborhood is trapped within the shadows.
Though the affects of the vibrations did not work on the enemy, the fact that there were portals everywhere wasn’t negated. What were brown objects were actually huge seeds. With the pluvial tear drops of heaven washing upon the seen, the plants were given life. Bursting from the dark sinewy ground, giant green vines were brought forth from underground.. Though unseen, they wiggled about with life, as these spiky tentacles clasped together into humongous plants that were at least 6 ft tall. With big broad tendrils, 1 foot sharp thorns that dripped poison and buds as big as a Labrador, these plants went unseen.
One of these seeds had rooted itself below the foot of the evil man. Sprouting upward, it would ensnare the male in its spiked tendrils and impale him with multiple thorns throughout the body. As the poison coursed through his being, the plant began to siphon the gasses within his body. Using it’s process of respiring gasses, it would take in the gas of the enemy, and expel oxygen within his body. This would help the gas catch on fire, as a bolt of pure lightning was shot forth from Aspiration’s body, but as he did so, his body went to ash. It was no longer able to sustain itself, as his structure was gone with the wind.
But, this is not the end. As one door closes, another one opens. The light giggle of feminine laughter sounded throughout the suburban area. She came at the same time as her plants did. They were her babies. And it was mommy’s job to make sure her babies are fed. Yes. Mother Nature was in the building, and she was looking for a fly. Connected to her foot was a portal of swirling darkness like that of Aspiration before her. Her saps had enough water to quench their thirst. It was time to commence nature’s revenge plan.
With a small wink, the plants opened their buds to reveal giant flowers. Generating unseen particle beams that filled up the entirety of the humongous bud, all flowers in the vicinity began to unleash hell on the ensnared male. Approximate number of plants in the area; somewhere between 50 to 100. Big beams converged on the enemy with lightning speed, as they all gathered and made explosion after explosion after explosion. If the man was to still be in the position he was in, these 5ft radius beams would de-molecularize, obliterate, assimilate, and annihilate the man. The gases he would be made of would burn do to the lightning caused by the gone Aspiration. With their burning, they would change and create water for this was how chemical reactions work. More water, more power. The beams kept attacking, as the rain fueled their power. And now, the plants grew even bigger and more powerful. And for as long as they were around, the darkness will be filled with invisible beams that could ‘potentially’ go on for hours.
Pressing his palm against his face, he yelled in agony as oxygen was pumped into his body, but in all eventually the plants in itself began to desinigrate, granting him their photosynthesised energy. Seeable aura flaunted as they entered the male's form, the cages of his oculi shut in deep concentration. "Doajakagan.. I feel your presence, Show me to victory.." He spoke in a static filled monotone, the ground around him rupturin [09:41] rupturing from the power hidden within the being conceived of might itself. Reoppening the lids of flesh a schlera darked by the impurest of blacks, the imprint of the demons shrouded within the whites of his ocular beings. The epicenter of his eye however was the most formidible, a white 10 pronged star sat devuldged within the male of glory's eye, inbetween parted lids of flesh. "Show the foe no mercy.. Unleash.." He spoke as he spread [09:41] He spoke as he spread his arms. At the point he uneashed a full wingspread, the ground caved around him, accumulated winds that had condensed around him mixed with the oxygen, conceiving to the flame and bearing even more reproduction until each molecule was superheated, in that point they would double, and then triple and so fourth. In less than a thought could be mustered the area, everything was exploding, reactions with the tangibilit [09:41] reactions with the tangibility of aura and the reaction of oxygen molding with the same particle influence occured once again, the spreading becoming such a quickening speed that an entire mile was engulfed in an endless sphere, the poison freezing whatever conceived within it, before decelerating it's essence as well as their physical embodiment. In breakneck speed, everything was devoured by this coarse aura, around him lie a Herculean [09:41] Herculean crater, the foe wiped from existance if this where even to connect for less than a fraction of a millisecond.. Nothing existed anymore; it was all conceived dreams formulated by mankind, to eliminate the foe.
“I’m going to kill that sonofabitch this time”, the silhouette said behind the window. The male wore a giant grin on his face. Dressed in black armor with gold and red trimmings, he watched from under his hood, as he believed that his enemy will be vanquished. “Come on! Hurry up and die already!” He was shaking. He couldn’t wait to see the male’s face once the end comes, and he shall be the winner, but then, suddenly, he heard something that made him near lose all hope.
"Doajakagan.. I feel your presence, Show me to victory..."
“Fuuuuuu”, the male said, as he broke down the door to the house, and began running for the man. With his arms forward, they began to pump on beat with his legs. Though his face was completely black and smooth other than his Cheshire grin and toothy mouth, his face twisted, as he mouthed the word, “No.” Running, his head went swaying side to side with the speed he forced into every step he took.
As he sprinted towards Levi, he pulled out his dual black katana blades. “I’m not going to let you win this time”, he yelled, as he leaped forward in the air. Soaring through the pouring rain, dive bombed straight for him. . "Show the foe no mercy…”
“I’ll show you no mercy, noob!” But, as he slashed through the body, something entered into his avatar’s brain. Levi’s avatar was made out of burning gas. “Shiiiit”, was all he could say, as he leapt through the opponent’s body and became incinerated and barbequed loser of the game.
“Unleash!” And the b*****d still destroyed the map!
“Virtual Battle Similuation over. Winner: Levi”
“Crap! I lost again”, complained the one who’s character was burned. “Why does it always have to be me?”
“Better luck next time, Neo.”
“Oh, ******** off!” With that, he closed the case with the point of his middle finger. With a great big fuss, he swore like a sailor, as he slammed the door to the holographic chamber.
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Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:58 pm
Could it have been antimatter? Though, that still wouldn't eat other matter.
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:32 am
Dalcain Could it have been antimatter? Though, that still wouldn't eat other matter. Revan is more informed than i am, but isn't Anti-matter something believed to exist to explain a gravity issue? I don't think anti-mater is "really" what people think it is
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:18 pm
Cade The Imperfect Dalcain Could it have been antimatter? Though, that still wouldn't eat other matter. Revan is more informed than i am, but isn't Anti-matter something believed to exist to explain a gravity issue? I don't think anti-mater is "really" what people think it is That may be, but it's the only thing that makes sense. Whether it be subject to an "aver"ing or not, it's still existent for now.
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Revan Maxwell Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:20 pm
Gah, I lost the sexy of that 3000 word post. So you get the quick version
First of all, Anti-Matter vs. Dark Matter
Not the same thing at all.
Dark matter is a "mass" counter part of Dark energy. It basically does nothing but give of gravity fields. It does not interact with light, nor normal matter in normal cases. It is also considered, for this reason, it is theorized by to make up some of the core of black holes. Now, that being said, I have gone as far, for sake of making sense out of semi-fiction, to say that when a star collapses it basically forces the creation of condensed dark matter, as if regular matter makes up only 4% of regular mass-energy density, and dark matter 23%, that means, despite being unable to see or even feel it, the dark matter itself would be pretty freaking dense if formed into a tangible object. Hence why I would say that a black holes core is partly made up of solidified dark matter, which would explain its high degree of gravitational pull.
All that said, dark matter is not the major point of this post since it's not the thing in question. But I must state, dark matter is NOT the same thing as anti-matter. And if you try to use them interchangeably in a fight with me, I will likely destroy you for it.
Anti-matter is what we all want to know about. Anti-matter is not really "ANTI" matter. Or rather, it should not be considered anti-mass/energy. Anti-matter is the polarized opposite to regular matter. So take carbon. Its counterpart would be Anti-carbon. There would be almost no difference between the two elements in their basic functionality and inner structure at all (save the key difference of positrons to electrons and anti-protons to protons). Now, if these two matters met, they would release gamma-rays. Yes, they would give off emissions strong enough to melt your freaking body to paste. Positive plus negative does not equal neutral in the world of mass-energy processes. It simply results in mass or energy. And this one ends in pure energy.
I would like to state that trying to create anti-matter requires massive control over energy to a degree that would go beyond cognitive thought processes of any regular sentient being, because the degree of aspects to control just to conjure anti-matter could literally kill the summoner. And even with the right conditions, it's concept of use in a mostly matter based universe is simply retarded. This is because conjuring positrons and anti-protons, and oh GOD! Anti-neutrons would be suicide. First of all, the moment the smaller particle would touch the air particles, they would erupt but touching the regular protons neutrons and electrons in the air. DUH! Secondly, you need a massive amount of energy to create matter/anti-matter in the first place. Hence why most naturally occurring anti-matter is formed and then gets "destroyed"(converted into energy) in stars. Thirdly, even if all other issues were given not problems, honestly, if you were going up against an elemental, or someone who can fight against normal matter, or even someone who could manipulate energy to any degree, anti-matter would be nothing more than a surprise attack to whip out just to scare an unknowing opponent because they probably wouldn't have a clue as to how to deal with that at first. ___________________________________________________________________________________ Now, on to the issue. I didn't read the whole thing or any of it really. But it's late here and I just don't feel like it. But it sounds like your opponent whipped out some anti-matter-esque BS.
Seriously, if the universe could simply be destroyed, but the characters people use have powers "as boundless as the universe" wouldn't that mean that as they destroy, they are technically making themselves weaker by making the universe itself smaller by destroying it?
Again, I have no problem with people destroying crap, but reducing stuff without some form of real explanation is just asking for another Crim incident. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
For all you curious, Crim was a roleplayer from the site I was RP birthed from, who claimed that, because roleplaying was totally fiction, he didn't need to make sense in a fantasy setting. Well, at that time, Revan have a few more powers than he did now, so I followed his rules and showed him exactly how cheap I could be without having to make total sense of what I do, even though I explained everything enough to make it look like I could do everything I was doing, even though I couldn't.
Don't go there with me. I will find you and I will make you cry.
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:22 pm
Look Here.
This.... this makes me joyous. This is what I remember about the good 'ol days of RPing. Fighting. Down to earth, bare fist fighting with flashy power moves thrown in to keep the spice. There haven't been but a few posts, but this fight has already become something of a poster child of what I meant when I said skill vs power. Now, Ant is working with a character who is on a much higher class of fighter than Yummy is, but through manipulation of the use of his characters skill, is not opting to make this a power battle but instead a battle of tactics, technique, and patience... in other words, Skill.
In the same sense, Yummy is flexing his own character's ability to think on his feet while keep pace with his opponent, who I've stated before, is of a higher order class than Yummy's. But as I was trying to advocate when I had first brought about the class chart, someone from a bottom part of that chart can fight with someone from a higher tier.
This is a true display of skill over power.
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Revan Maxwell Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:43 pm
Something hit me today. I thought about what Revan said about the elemental users it became apparent that each element is more or less, a state of matter controller, but that limits them to a state of matter, yet with the right amount of training and knowledge, they could do more than normal classical element benders. This also makes it a tad bit more possible and easier to understand without giving them too much control over the world. An earth user would destroy all of reality simply because all things but energy are made of minerals. This would ruin the galaxy and the role play in which they are in. I found a scientific pentagram that gave me a better grasp of the idea. I find this to be a very interesting twist to the classic idea. An earth bender would be replaced by a solid manipulator. A water bender would be a liquid manipulator. An air bender would be a gas manipulator. A fire bender would be a plasma manipulator. And last but not least, the sky/heaven/void/spirit bender would best be placed as the dark matter manipulator.  Of course, for the sake of role play, they will need better names or something to make them sound cooler than that lame attempt. XD I am the Gaseous Lord!
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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:56 am
You got it Dalcain man. Revan, and myself after seeing his light, see the control of elements similar to how you are taalking here. While I don't think it would go so far as nuclear control, I think for control of fire, it's more atomically based. Heat is atom's friction upon each other as they move, a perfect explanation to the states of matter. So, maybe instead of controling nuclear rections to certain degrees, maybe a firebender, or as you point out, plasma manipulator, would control degrees of heats. And another point to be made. Plasma itself is a state of matter. Therefore, it wouldn't fully cover the idea of heat, and fire itself. MAybe, It would be something along the lines of Friction, or heat manipulator.
Don't let me impeach on your ideas though man, I just wanna give my two cents.Which I have a lot of.
And Revan, Thanks for the comliments on Aoski and Ant's fight. Ant has been giving me a hard a** time figuring what to do. Challenges really help someone's RP ability. Thats why I love it here, Such advanced and experienced RP'ers, like yourself, Cade and Caiyo. I kinda feel like the intern, or the new kid in the office, you know? And I really enjoy this feeling too. You guys are great friends to have, and I really really love you all. <3
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Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:08 am
Indeed. I wonder how "state of matter manipulators" (horrid name) would fight?
It would truly be something.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:23 pm
How could I have missed these posts till now? I feel.... so.... ashamed. In my own corner as well.
Now, Dalcain, I don't want to burst any bubbles, because what you came across, and your thought processes on the subject is both enlightening, and intriguing at the same time, there are a few rules of the classic elemental concepts you are missing. In a very simplistic and open interpretation of the elements, you would have a very solid and sound concept. However, when placed into practice, there are a great degrees of exceptions and counter arguments that can be made.
Now do note before I go on this rant that you have indeed put out some concepts that I have only just started pondering on into a clearer perspective, so, much like Yummy said, don't let my two cents discourage you. I take concepts, think on them and refine them. But it is still your concept none the less. And one I feel will be opening up a lot for all of us in the future.
Now, going down the list of the more obvious conflicts.
Earth bender to solid manipulator/Water bender liquid manipulator: Earth is a very restricted despite it's major abundance. Mud can be considered a liquid at times, as can magma. However, in my opinion, both are still under the control of Earth Benders. There is also ice. Now, I would dare to say that an Earth bender would be able to manipulate solid chunks fairly easy. Ice is, after all, one of the strongest minerals on earth especially if pure. However, we naturally attribute ice manipulation to water benders.
Likewise, water benders would technically require the medium being controlled to have the essence of the make up for water in them to control them. So while magma and mud are liquids. Magma would not be in their ability to manipulate. And mud, depending on thickness would be more difficult to control than fresh or salt water. If any of you are familiar with Captain Planet, depending on how pure the water around the Asian chick because I can't remember her name and Cap was affected how well they could the water. Again, CADE, why I say that water has a lot of natural faults to it's use.
Now, you are right about an Air Bender. They should be able to manipulate all forms of air, and thus can also be called gas manipulators.
And fire is plasma, so the statement is a bit redundant. However, like Yummy pointed out, it's not as simple as the state of the matter.
As for the pentagram, I see what they're going for..... but no.
Electromagnetic forces cannot be attributed to gaseous matter. Just.... no. Furthermore I have the inherit issue with the concept of void, it being an end all to everything, reducing it not to it's fundamentals but whipping it from existence in its entirety. But I'll let that repetitive rant slid.
Anyways, I think waht you're going for is an old concept of mine.
"Phasers." Can control certain phases of objects. Problem is, they are incredibly OP when done wrong. Like the liquid phaser who just tears out your blood, or the plasma phaser who can touch an object, ie, the ground your both standing on and light it on fire, or ya, know, have a solar flare reach out to where the fight on whatever planet they are on is. Or better yet, the person liquid phaser who can turn rock to magma at will.
There's a reason I shun away from using those. I introduced them once to a forum a long time ago and a person had their character learn two phase techniques. I don't even need to tell you what any combination of phaser abilities can do. Especially an air phaser with anything.
I could honestly go on with the varying flaws with that pentagram, but I won't.
Now, I went through all that to get to the real meat of what you were saying. By expanding out to solids, you essentially take out the real essence of the elements themselves.
Yes, for all these abilities there are ways around. But still, generalizing to the degree is just asking for the RPing dicks to show themselves.
Also, don't ever allow someone to get you to believe that sky, heaven, void, and spirit benders can be grouped under quintessence. They are all vastly different and cover aspects of a realm beyond the physical... which dark matter is not.
Anyways, I hope that rant was of use, cause I think I confused myself somewhere along the last like three major paragraphs.
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Revan Maxwell Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:45 pm
Its a shame that Roleplaying's greatest strength is also its greatest flaw. Information and the search for a deep understanding. For the more you break something down to its most basic "elements", truly exposing that capabilities within. You find yourself in a position where you slowly bring yourself to a place where your character manipulated the very functions of the world. Normally such actions are restrained by the tern "god mode" but how can one really call a action that is simply a more focused control or understand of a science of material a god mode?
This is why a crisp, clean and clear set of rules is being constructed by the Members of IP, to set a standard for Combat Roleplay, to explain what is really accepted. Cause without any level of control, and restriction, one really, just has to look and theoretical sciences to design a character that is capable of stuff considered god-like. But with a reasonable level of explanation of why it is indeed possible for their character to do it.
But most importantly, rule to enforce a understanding that only with a firm "grip" of how the system works and how indeed your character could perform the action is indeed necessary before your character can use the said action. "Magic" is not a way of explaining things, not at a complex level. Such reasoning for character powers has severely damaged roleplay and is a reason for the decline in popularity in combat forums.
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:24 pm
Which is why I'm happy to announce that I have found a person who is even better versed in physics both fantasy, real, and science fiction than I, who is willing to thoroughly help me work out the kinks in the system. You will not see him because he was pushed from free form Roleplaying because of the less tact and understanding as well as explanation, but I will refer to his works very often. The information he has graciously allowed me to use will be a catalyst for the True Flow (TF) standard.
No standard will ever live without it's flaws. However, True Flow is not simply to be a strict standard. It is also to be treated like an honor code. But more will come as more is completed. But you all should know how me Cade and Yummy are with details. This will be a standard like no other.
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Revan Maxwell Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:42 am
Cade The Imperfect Its a shame that Roleplaying's greatest strength is also its greatest flaw. Information and the search for a deep understanding. For the more you break something down to its most basic "elements", truly exposing that capabilities within. You find yourself in a position where you slowly bring yourself to a place where your character manipulated the very functions of the world. Normally such actions are restrained by the tern "god mode" but how can one really call a action that is simply a more focused control or understand of a science of material a god mode? This is why a crisp, clean and clear set of rules is being constructed by the Members of IP, to set a standard for Combat Roleplay, to explain what is really accepted. Cause without any level of control, and restriction, one really, just has to look and theoretical sciences to design a character that is capable of stuff considered god-like. But with a reasonable level of explanation of why it is indeed possible for their character to do it. But most importantly, rule to enforce a understanding that only with a firm "grip" of how the system works and how indeed your character could perform the action is indeed necessary before your character can use the said action. "Magic" is not a way of explaining things, not at a complex level. Such reasoning for character powers has severely damaged roleplay and is a reason for the decline in popularity in combat forums. I just thought of something for IP. Using the ranking system as a sort of base, There can be sort of... limits to god modding in a way. For instance, the closer you are to being an actual ' God ' , or at least considered one by way of the ranking, the more you can do with the power at your disposal. Of course, I need to look at the exceptions. There are always prodigies, those granted power by the gods, the ones who just rock the power, and various other ideals that engage their power, and how it really affect everything in the world. In a way, The ranking system will give you a range of ability that you can do. Get at me.
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:10 pm
Hiro appears from a gust of wind looking at now his fellow guild members.
"Hello everyone. I would just like to know if anyone wishes to fight me.." a smile does not appear on his face in fact not much emotion seems to be there at all.
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:47 am
Revan Maxwell How could I have missed these posts till now? I feel.... so.... ashamed. In my own corner as well.
Now, Dalcain, I don't want to burst any bubbles, because what you came across, and your thought processes on the subject is both enlightening, and intriguing at the same time, there are a few rules of the classic elemental concepts you are missing. In a very simplistic and open interpretation of the elements, you would have a very solid and sound concept. However, when placed into practice, there are a great degrees of exceptions and counter arguments that can be made.
Now do note before I go on this rant that you have indeed put out some concepts that I have only just started pondering on into a clearer perspective, so, much like Yummy said, don't let my two cents discourage you. I take concepts, think on them and refine them. But it is still your concept none the less. And one I feel will be opening up a lot for all of us in the future.
Now, going down the list of the more obvious conflicts.
Earth bender to solid manipulator/Water bender liquid manipulator: Earth is a very restricted despite it's major abundance. Mud can be considered a liquid at times, as can magma. However, in my opinion, both are still under the control of Earth Benders. There is also ice. Now, I would dare to say that an Earth bender would be able to manipulate solid chunks fairly easy. Ice is, after all, one of the strongest minerals on earth especially if pure. However, we naturally attribute ice manipulation to water benders.
Likewise, water benders would technically require the medium being controlled to have the essence of the make up for water in them to control them. So while magma and mud are liquids. Magma would not be in their ability to manipulate. And mud, depending on thickness would be more difficult to control than fresh or salt water. If any of you are familiar with Captain Planet, depending on how pure the water around the Asian chick because I can't remember her name and Cap was affected how well they could the water. Again, CADE, why I say that water has a lot of natural faults to it's use.
Now, you are right about an Air Bender. They should be able to manipulate all forms of air, and thus can also be called gas manipulators.
And fire is plasma, so the statement is a bit redundant. However, like Yummy pointed out, it's not as simple as the state of the matter.
As for the pentagram, I see what they're going for..... but no.
Electromagnetic forces cannot be attributed to gaseous matter. Just.... no. Furthermore I have the inherit issue with the concept of void, it being an end all to everything, reducing it not to it's fundamentals but whipping it from existence in its entirety. But I'll let that repetitive rant slid.
Anyways, I think waht you're going for is an old concept of mine.
"Phasers." Can control certain phases of objects. Problem is, they are incredibly OP when done wrong. Like the liquid phaser who just tears out your blood, or the plasma phaser who can touch an object, ie, the ground your both standing on and light it on fire, or ya, know, have a solar flare reach out to where the fight on whatever planet they are on is. Or better yet, the person liquid phaser who can turn rock to magma at will.
There's a reason I shun away from using those. I introduced them once to a forum a long time ago and a person had their character learn two phase techniques. I don't even need to tell you what any combination of phaser abilities can do. Especially an air phaser with anything.
I could honestly go on with the varying flaws with that pentagram, but I won't.
Now, I went through all that to get to the real meat of what you were saying. By expanding out to solids, you essentially take out the real essence of the elements themselves.
Yes, for all these abilities there are ways around. But still, generalizing to the degree is just asking for the RPing dicks to show themselves.
Also, don't ever allow someone to get you to believe that sky, heaven, void, and spirit benders can be grouped under quintessence. They are all vastly different and cover aspects of a realm beyond the physical... which dark matter is not.
Anyways, I hope that rant was of use, cause I think I confused myself somewhere along the last like three major paragraphs. Oh well. Doesn't phase me none. I just found the pentagram on Google and thought about it. In the classical elements, void and sky are the same being that they are the element of "out there". Space is void and the sky stretches into space. Void doesn't always mean null or empty. The same as silence can still be, to some degree, used as a sound. The absence is the evidence.
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