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 Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 4:28 pm
KingJack! I don't see why her opinion on gay marriage matters, but I hope Oprah is pro-gay and they do a money-battle. But isn't it a little harsh to demonize her for being nosy? Sure, you don't like it (and pretty much everything she says is garbage), but she can voic her opinion, even if it can ruin or help other people's lives. IMO (In my opinion), they should just ban marriage all-together, for everyone. Except animals because that would be cute. Oh no no! I would never try to shut her up, but I can still laugh or yell at her words. wink ...and yes. It would be cute.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:47 pm
Westice Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew Emperor Angelo XXV Westice The world is already way over populized. Isupport gay/lesbian marriage all the way. They wouldn't create new babies and have them enter a crappy world full of misery and despair. Usually they adopt the already living kids who need a home. Check China's population. There is a reason there is a one-child limit there.
If you want further discussion about overpopulation, just ask me.
Damn, it's difficult typing using a laptop.Actually it is overpopulated. We have to constantly cut down more forests to make room for the constantly growing population. People keep having more and more children and don't know when to stop. Don't tell me it's not over populated.
Our population as a species is growing not because we breed like rabbits, but because we stopped dying like flies. Due to various scientific advances, the average human lifespan has been growing more and more, along with many other factors.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:13 pm
That, and we are indeed breeding like crazy. I read this chart about how much of a species the earth can tolerate, and how many are on the planet, humans were way over the limit. And of course the number of people the earth can tolerate keeps going down, but I don't want to talk about this right now.
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 6:06 pm
BarnOwl6-5 That, and we are indeed breeding like crazy. I read this chart about how much of a species the earth can tolerate, and how many are on the planet, humans were way over the limit. And of course the number of people the earth can tolerate keeps going down, but I don't want to talk about this right now.
Now, do you want me to get my source?
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:33 pm
What I don't understand is why homosexuals can't get married because of the fact that they can't concieve a child together, but it's okay if an infertile couple can get married. Is being infertile immoral?
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Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:20 pm
Metheshrew What I don't understand is why homosexuals can't get married because of the fact that they can't concieve a child together, but it's okay if an infertile couple can get married. Is being infertile immoral?
What is the definition of marriage?
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:05 am
Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew What I don't understand is why homosexuals can't get married because of the fact that they can't concieve a child together, but it's okay if an infertile couple can get married. Is being infertile immoral?
What is the definition of marriage?Oh no. Not the "Marriage is a union between a man and a woman" thing again. rolleyes Meanings change. Times change. And to not allow two people to get married because society is hung up on a "definition" is just plain wrong in my opinion.
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 10:10 am
Emperor Angelo XXV BarnOwl6-5 That, and we are indeed breeding like crazy. I read this chart about how much of a species the earth can tolerate, and how many are on the planet, humans were way over the limit. And of course the number of people the earth can tolerate keeps going down, but I don't want to talk about this right now.
Now, do you want me to get my source?Ever hear of the baby boomers? Since the war is over, I think we may be due for another.
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:27 pm
Metheshrew Emperor Angelo XXV BarnOwl6-5 That, and we are indeed breeding like crazy. I read this chart about how much of a species the earth can tolerate, and how many are on the planet, humans were way over the limit. And of course the number of people the earth can tolerate keeps going down, but I don't want to talk about this right now.
Now, do you want me to get my source?Ever hear of the baby boomers? Since the war is over, I think we may be due for another.
No, we are not due for another. At this rate of depopulation, many societies will become extinct after 2040, if not earlier. Countries such as Japan and South Korea are doing a lot of effort to raise their respective birth rates. The U.S. is barely doing well in the issue of birth rates.
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:32 pm
Metheshrew Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew What I don't understand is why homosexuals can't get married because of the fact that they can't concieve a child together, but it's okay if an infertile couple can get married. Is being infertile immoral?
What is the definition of marriage?Oh no. Not the "Marriage is a union between a man and a woman" thing again. rolleyes Meanings change. Times change. And to not allow two people to get married because society is hung up on a "definition" is just plain wrong in my opinion.
By the way, GLBT people are not born, but are the products of the environment to which they grew up in. If they are born GLBT, then where's this so-called "GLBT gene"? That gene does not exist.
Also, there could be many reasons as to why Stephenie Meyer signed that particular petition. We can only speculate about her reasons, until we find evidence to prove or disprove our speculations behind her action.
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:45 pm
Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew What I don't understand is why homosexuals can't get married because of the fact that they can't concieve a child together, but it's okay if an infertile couple can get married. Is being infertile immoral?
What is the definition of marriage?Oh no. Not the "Marriage is a union between a man and a woman" thing again. rolleyes Meanings change. Times change. And to not allow two people to get married because society is hung up on a "definition" is just plain wrong in my opinion.
By the way, GLBT people are not born, but are the products of the environment to which they grew up in. If they are born GLBT, then where's this so-called "GLBT gene"? That gene does not exist.
Also, there could be many reasons as to why Stephenie Meyer signed that particular petition. We can only speculate about her reasons, until we find evidence to prove or disprove our speculations behind her action.Sorry, but being gay is not a learned behavior, nor is it a choice. It's been proven by science time and time again that nine times out of ten a person does not choose their sexuality. It has nothing to do with abuse or the environment a child grew up with. Don't believe it? Google it. Look in a few psychology text books. If you believe that god doesn't want gay marriage then that is fine. I have nothing against you or your religion, but I do have a problem (not with you personally) with everyone else being forced to follow the rules of a religion that is not their own. Sheep Study
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:59 pm
Metheshrew Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew What I don't understand is why homosexuals can't get married because of the fact that they can't concieve a child together, but it's okay if an infertile couple can get married. Is being infertile immoral?
What is the definition of marriage?Oh no. Not the "Marriage is a union between a man and a woman" thing again. rolleyes Meanings change. Times change. And to not allow two people to get married because society is hung up on a "definition" is just plain wrong in my opinion.
By the way, GLBT people are not born, but are the products of the environment to which they grew up in. If they are born GLBT, then where's this so-called "GLBT gene"? That gene does not exist.
Also, there could be many reasons as to why Stephenie Meyer signed that particular petition. We can only speculate about her reasons, until we find evidence to prove or disprove our speculations behind her action.Sorry, but being gay is not a learned behavior, nor is it a choice. It's been proven by science time and time again that nine times out of ten a person does not choose their sexuality. It has nothing to do with abuse or the environment a child grew up with. Don't believe it? Google it. Look in a few psychology text books. If you believe that god doesn't want gay marriage then that is fine. I have nothing against you or your religion, but I do have a problem (not with you personally) with everyone else being forced to follow the rules of a religion that is not their own. Sheep Study
Besides, we are not sheep, and using the study on sheep does not equate with human sexuality.
Good that we respect each other's beliefs. I have seen many debates about Prop 8 that use religion without understanding it first. Such debates are mainly caused by ignorance and bigotry.
Also, I went into your interracial support thread. biggrin
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:44 pm
Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew What I don't understand is why homosexuals can't get married because of the fact that they can't concieve a child together, but it's okay if an infertile couple can get married. Is being infertile immoral?
What is the definition of marriage?Oh no. Not the "Marriage is a union between a man and a woman" thing again. rolleyes Meanings change. Times change. And to not allow two people to get married because society is hung up on a "definition" is just plain wrong in my opinion.
By the way, GLBT people are not born, but are the products of the environment to which they grew up in. If they are born GLBT, then where's this so-called "GLBT gene"? That gene does not exist.
Also, there could be many reasons as to why Stephenie Meyer signed that particular petition. We can only speculate about her reasons, until we find evidence to prove or disprove our speculations behind her action.Sorry, but being gay is not a learned behavior, nor is it a choice. It's been proven by science time and time again that nine times out of ten a person does not choose their sexuality. It has nothing to do with abuse or the environment a child grew up with. Don't believe it? Google it. Look in a few psychology text books. If you believe that god doesn't want gay marriage then that is fine. I have nothing against you or your religion, but I do have a problem (not with you personally) with everyone else being forced to follow the rules of a religion that is not their own. Sheep Study
Besides, we are not sheep, and using the study on sheep does not equate with human sexuality.
Good that we respect each other's beliefs. I have seen many debates about Prop 8 that use religion without understanding it first. Such debates are mainly caused by ignorance and bigotry.
Also, I went into your interracial support thread. biggrin I have had a number of good friends who supported Prop 8, but they stated their opinions in a respectful manner and respected my opinion as well. I think it's always good to agree to disagree. smile Yes, I saw it. ^^
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:47 pm
Metheshrew Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew Oh no. Not the "Marriage is a union between a man and a woman" thing again. rolleyes Meanings change. Times change. And to not allow two people to get married because society is hung up on a "definition" is just plain wrong in my opinion.
By the way, GLBT people are not born, but are the products of the environment to which they grew up in. If they are born GLBT, then where's this so-called "GLBT gene"? That gene does not exist.
Also, there could be many reasons as to why Stephenie Meyer signed that particular petition. We can only speculate about her reasons, until we find evidence to prove or disprove our speculations behind her action.Sorry, but being gay is not a learned behavior, nor is it a choice. It's been proven by science time and time again that nine times out of ten a person does not choose their sexuality. It has nothing to do with abuse or the environment a child grew up with. Don't believe it? Google it. Look in a few psychology text books. If you believe that god doesn't want gay marriage then that is fine. I have nothing against you or your religion, but I do have a problem (not with you personally) with everyone else being forced to follow the rules of a religion that is not their own. Sheep Study
Besides, we are not sheep, and using the study on sheep does not equate with human sexuality.
Good that we respect each other's beliefs. I have seen many debates about Prop 8 that use religion without understanding it first. Such debates are mainly caused by ignorance and bigotry.
Also, I went into your interracial support thread. biggrin I have had a number of good friends who supported Prop 8, but they stated their opinions in a respectful manner and respected my opinion as well. I think it's always good to agree to disagree. smile Yes, I saw it. ^^
Good. biggrin Personally, I agree with your thread there. [:
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Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:50 pm
Metheshrew Emperor Angelo XXV Metheshrew What I don't understand is why homosexuals can't get married because of the fact that they can't concieve a child together, but it's okay if an infertile couple can get married. Is being infertile immoral?
What is the definition of marriage?Oh no. Not the "Marriage is a union between a man and a woman" thing again. rolleyes Meanings change. Times change. And to not allow two people to get married because society is hung up on a "definition" is just plain wrong in my opinion. Wasn't there a time when marriage was defined as "a union between a male and a female of the same race"? Like Metheshrew said, TIMES CHANGE! And no, homosexuality has nothing to do with the enviornment they're raised in. It's rare to see a child that was adopted by a gay couple that ends up being gay. There's an entire episode of "True Life" about children raised by gay parents, I recomend you watch it.
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