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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:57 pm


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When I hear Satanism i think of Satan duh..
Just like when I hear Christianity I think of Christ.

But when i think about ppl who are Satanics is basicly those who want to belong to the Devil and hope to live in Hell with him one day...

Pretty must the exact opposite of Christians.

Not completely true.
There are two types of Satanists in short;
One that believes in the Deity Satan
And another that simply believes in themselves. They only see Satan as a symbol of rebellion.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:11 pm


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there may be some meetings occasionally where something horrible happens, like people sitting naked in a circle and drinking blood.


Why is this, in itself, horrible?

Physically blood is bad for you, and the whole situation is just plain wrong. Forget the fact there's Bible verses against, if you don't feel a twinge that tells you it's wrong now, think back to when you were really little and tell me if the idea wouldn't have seemed somewhat monstrous?


Not at all. Why would I have? What does that have to do with anything anyway? Children's opinions of things are often pretty crap. I mean, kids read crap like Harry Potter and Twilight. Ew. And they watch really lame cartoons nowadays. The opinions of children aren't exactly the best yardstick.

There's nothing wrong with blood in its own right (people drink blood for nutrition in some cultures, you know, particularly if food is scarce) if it's obtained in an acceptable manner. It's not like you'd be drinking a whole heap of it. There's nothing wrong with nakedness either. Wicca is practised naked. There's nothing sexual about nudity either, in its own right. There's nothing about these things that I can see that is "horrible".

What are the bible verses against this, and why do these make this situation necessarily horrible? I mean, why is a thing horrible just because there's a bible verse against it?

I understand that your opinion is that this is horrible somehow, based on your own emotional response to it. But I don't understand how "it's just plain wrong" is a reason for this.

I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.

Quote:
Acts 15:29 "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well."

As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:08 pm


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Why is this, in itself, horrible?

Physically blood is bad for you, and the whole situation is just plain wrong. Forget the fact there's Bible verses against, if you don't feel a twinge that tells you it's wrong now, think back to when you were really little and tell me if the idea wouldn't have seemed somewhat monstrous?


Not at all. Why would I have? What does that have to do with anything anyway? Children's opinions of things are often pretty crap. I mean, kids read crap like Harry Potter and Twilight. Ew. And they watch really lame cartoons nowadays. The opinions of children aren't exactly the best yardstick.

There's nothing wrong with blood in its own right (people drink blood for nutrition in some cultures, you know, particularly if food is scarce) if it's obtained in an acceptable manner. It's not like you'd be drinking a whole heap of it. There's nothing wrong with nakedness either. Wicca is practised naked. There's nothing sexual about nudity either, in its own right. There's nothing about these things that I can see that is "horrible".

What are the bible verses against this, and why do these make this situation necessarily horrible? I mean, why is a thing horrible just because there's a bible verse against it?

I understand that your opinion is that this is horrible somehow, based on your own emotional response to it. But I don't understand how "it's just plain wrong" is a reason for this.

I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.

Quote:
Acts 15:29 "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well."

As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:29 pm


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Physically blood is bad for you, and the whole situation is just plain wrong. Forget the fact there's Bible verses against, if you don't feel a twinge that tells you it's wrong now, think back to when you were really little and tell me if the idea wouldn't have seemed somewhat monstrous?


Not at all. Why would I have? What does that have to do with anything anyway? Children's opinions of things are often pretty crap. I mean, kids read crap like Harry Potter and Twilight. Ew. And they watch really lame cartoons nowadays. The opinions of children aren't exactly the best yardstick.

There's nothing wrong with blood in its own right (people drink blood for nutrition in some cultures, you know, particularly if food is scarce) if it's obtained in an acceptable manner. It's not like you'd be drinking a whole heap of it. There's nothing wrong with nakedness either. Wicca is practised naked. There's nothing sexual about nudity either, in its own right. There's nothing about these things that I can see that is "horrible".

What are the bible verses against this, and why do these make this situation necessarily horrible? I mean, why is a thing horrible just because there's a bible verse against it?

I understand that your opinion is that this is horrible somehow, based on your own emotional response to it. But I don't understand how "it's just plain wrong" is a reason for this.

I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.

Quote:
Acts 15:29 "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well."

As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.
Actually, kids are literally unable to really develop their own morals. They're just doing what they do based off of what their parents say is good and bad and what they think they can get away with. So if their parents tell them it's good to kick the family dog, they'll kick the family dog. It's not about their purity and understanding of right and wrong. It's their ability to obey authority.
Kids have a really black and white idea of right and wrong and that's not always good. Like, say, a mom tells a kid that lying is wrong. But the kid can't make the distinction between lying to his or her mom about stealing a cookie or lying to protect somebody who's hiding from someone that can hurt them.


@Shinzo: Step off. Harry Potter is awesome. XD

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:37 pm


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Physically blood is bad for you, and the whole situation is just plain wrong. Forget the fact there's Bible verses against, if you don't feel a twinge that tells you it's wrong now, think back to when you were really little and tell me if the idea wouldn't have seemed somewhat monstrous?


Not at all. Why would I have? What does that have to do with anything anyway? Children's opinions of things are often pretty crap. I mean, kids read crap like Harry Potter and Twilight. Ew. And they watch really lame cartoons nowadays. The opinions of children aren't exactly the best yardstick.

There's nothing wrong with blood in its own right (people drink blood for nutrition in some cultures, you know, particularly if food is scarce) if it's obtained in an acceptable manner. It's not like you'd be drinking a whole heap of it. There's nothing wrong with nakedness either. Wicca is practised naked. There's nothing sexual about nudity either, in its own right. There's nothing about these things that I can see that is "horrible".

What are the bible verses against this, and why do these make this situation necessarily horrible? I mean, why is a thing horrible just because there's a bible verse against it?

I understand that your opinion is that this is horrible somehow, based on your own emotional response to it. But I don't understand how "it's just plain wrong" is a reason for this.

I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.

Quote:
Acts 15:29 "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well."

As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.

I have no hope for the main stream media. XD Todays children have terrible tastes because they are open to so little, the worst even.
I would feel worse about lieing at this age then before.
When I was younger, I thought lieing was ok as long as no one found out because it was like it was true.
However, I know it is bad to lie now because it is untrue and you are only fooling someone.
Self experience.

I checked the site. It had nothing on the drinking of blood, but only bashing Africa. That's it. It had no reason on why they shouldn't drink blood.
The second link told blood poisoning as another term I would have been familiar with. If I knew you were talking about Sepsis, I would have told you that drinking blood does not cause you to have blood infection.

I think you can do it. However, from my life style and not used to drinking blood, I wouldn't. Doesn't make it wrong.

Problem is, you have no reason to condemn the practice besides a mistranslates Bible verse and a few watered links.

He's pretty wrong then. :S
As a true man has said...
You can cook food and not know shizzle about food.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:41 pm


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Not at all. Why would I have? What does that have to do with anything anyway? Children's opinions of things are often pretty crap. I mean, kids read crap like Harry Potter and Twilight. Ew. And they watch really lame cartoons nowadays. The opinions of children aren't exactly the best yardstick.

There's nothing wrong with blood in its own right (people drink blood for nutrition in some cultures, you know, particularly if food is scarce) if it's obtained in an acceptable manner. It's not like you'd be drinking a whole heap of it. There's nothing wrong with nakedness either. Wicca is practised naked. There's nothing sexual about nudity either, in its own right. There's nothing about these things that I can see that is "horrible".

What are the bible verses against this, and why do these make this situation necessarily horrible? I mean, why is a thing horrible just because there's a bible verse against it?

I understand that your opinion is that this is horrible somehow, based on your own emotional response to it. But I don't understand how "it's just plain wrong" is a reason for this.

I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.

Quote:
Acts 15:29 "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well."

As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.

@Shinzo: Step off. Harry Potter is awesome. XD

I'm just sayin'. A 20 year old still going to school is pretty lame.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:56 pm


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I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.


As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.

@Shinzo: Step off. Harry Potter is awesome. XD

I'm just sayin'. A 20 year old still going to school is pretty lame.
Yes. College is lame. XD
But I'm guessing you watched the movies instead of reading the books?
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I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.


As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.

@Shinzo: Step off. Harry Potter is awesome. XD

I'm just sayin'. A 20 year old still going to school is pretty lame.
Yes. College is lame. XD
But I'm guessing you watched the movies instead of reading the books?

I dropped the book after a single chapter and started reading a Stephen King book. I wasn't too interested.

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I'm pretty sure pig blood is dangerous for humans- That's why pork is non-kosher, because people in those days didn't know to drain the pig fully. Something along those lines. Raw meat is not dangerous on it's own, but it must be eaten fresh. Otherwise, bacteria will grow in the meat. that is where the danger comes from there, not uncooked meat itself. I would also advise against eating raw packaged meat, as it has been dead for a while, so the bacteria have had a chance to enter and grow, even if it is wrapped. Otherwise, blood isn't poisonous or dangerous and is eaten as puddings or drank straight or mixed with milk, especially in areas where nutrients are hard to come by, like very cold areas or desert areas.
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Not at all. Why would I have? What does that have to do with anything anyway? Children's opinions of things are often pretty crap. I mean, kids read crap like Harry Potter and Twilight. Ew. And they watch really lame cartoons nowadays. The opinions of children aren't exactly the best yardstick.

There's nothing wrong with blood in its own right (people drink blood for nutrition in some cultures, you know, particularly if food is scarce) if it's obtained in an acceptable manner. It's not like you'd be drinking a whole heap of it. There's nothing wrong with nakedness either. Wicca is practised naked. There's nothing sexual about nudity either, in its own right. There's nothing about these things that I can see that is "horrible".

What are the bible verses against this, and why do these make this situation necessarily horrible? I mean, why is a thing horrible just because there's a bible verse against it?

I understand that your opinion is that this is horrible somehow, based on your own emotional response to it. But I don't understand how "it's just plain wrong" is a reason for this.

I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.

Quote:
Acts 15:29 "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well."

As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.
Actually, kids are literally unable to really develop their own morals. They're just doing what they do based off of what their parents say is good and bad and what they think they can get away with. So if their parents tell them it's good to kick the family dog, they'll kick the family dog. It's not about their purity and understanding of right and wrong. It's their ability to obey authority.
Kids have a really black and white idea of right and wrong and that's not always good. Like, say, a mom tells a kid that lying is wrong. But the kid can't make the distinction between lying to his or her mom about stealing a cookie or lying to protect somebody who's hiding from someone that can hurt them.


@Shinzo: Step off. Harry Potter is awesome. XD

People have conscious they're born with, I think. Is there anyway to prove either of is right?
God's idea of right and wrong is the Bible is pretty black and white too. I don't think that's just a coincidence.

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I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.


As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.
Actually, kids are literally unable to really develop their own morals. They're just doing what they do based off of what their parents say is good and bad and what they think they can get away with. So if their parents tell them it's good to kick the family dog, they'll kick the family dog. It's not about their purity and understanding of right and wrong. It's their ability to obey authority.
Kids have a really black and white idea of right and wrong and that's not always good. Like, say, a mom tells a kid that lying is wrong. But the kid can't make the distinction between lying to his or her mom about stealing a cookie or lying to protect somebody who's hiding from someone that can hurt them.


@Shinzo: Step off. Harry Potter is awesome. XD

People have conscious they're born with, I think. Is there anyway to prove either of is right?
God's idea of right and wrong is the Bible is pretty black and white too. I don't think that's just a coincidence.

However, the brain is underdeveloped at birth so even if there WAS conscious, you have a might-as-well-be brain dead meat bag without knowledge. You can't expect morals without knowledge and children know not of death until they experience it in some way.
Not really. God made the Bible so he SHOULD follow the rules. However, I find some of the rules bs. You can't compare an organism with no knowledge to an organism with all knowledge anyway.
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Not at all. Why would I have? What does that have to do with anything anyway? Children's opinions of things are often pretty crap. I mean, kids read crap like Harry Potter and Twilight. Ew. And they watch really lame cartoons nowadays. The opinions of children aren't exactly the best yardstick.

There's nothing wrong with blood in its own right (people drink blood for nutrition in some cultures, you know, particularly if food is scarce) if it's obtained in an acceptable manner. It's not like you'd be drinking a whole heap of it. There's nothing wrong with nakedness either. Wicca is practised naked. There's nothing sexual about nudity either, in its own right. There's nothing about these things that I can see that is "horrible".

What are the bible verses against this, and why do these make this situation necessarily horrible? I mean, why is a thing horrible just because there's a bible verse against it?

I understand that your opinion is that this is horrible somehow, based on your own emotional response to it. But I don't understand how "it's just plain wrong" is a reason for this.

I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.

Quote:
Acts 15:29 "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well."

As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.

I have no hope for the main stream media. XD Todays children have terrible tastes because they are open to so little, the worst even.
I would feel worse about lieing at this age then before.
When I was younger, I thought lieing was ok as long as no one found out because it was like it was true.
However, I know it is bad to lie now because it is untrue and you are only fooling someone.
Self experience.

I checked the site. It had nothing on the drinking of blood, but only bashing Africa. That's it. It had no reason on why they shouldn't drink blood.
The second link told blood poisoning as another term I would have been familiar with. If I knew you were talking about Sepsis, I would have told you that drinking blood does not cause you to have blood infection.

I think you can do it. However, from my life style and not used to drinking blood, I wouldn't. Doesn't make it wrong.

Problem is, you have no reason to condemn the practice besides a mistranslates Bible verse and a few watered links.

He's pretty wrong then. :S
As a true man has said...
You can cook food and not know shizzle about food.

Weird. I felt worse when I was little, and then as time went on that annoying twinge that said it was wrong disappeared so I could do it more easily. I'm trying to lie less though, so it's coming back.

I thought the first was off, but there's nothing about blood drinking that has any real facts or correct information behind it. It's annoying. >.<
And you said blood poisoning didn't exist, which is the main reason I posted that.

Ergh, I can't prove it wrong. It just feels wrong, even if that's not a great reason.

And a conscious that says it's twisted and wrong. I know that's not going to convince you, but it's got me pretty well convinced.

*shrugs* No comment.

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I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.


As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.
Actually, kids are literally unable to really develop their own morals. They're just doing what they do based off of what their parents say is good and bad and what they think they can get away with. So if their parents tell them it's good to kick the family dog, they'll kick the family dog. It's not about their purity and understanding of right and wrong. It's their ability to obey authority.
Kids have a really black and white idea of right and wrong and that's not always good. Like, say, a mom tells a kid that lying is wrong. But the kid can't make the distinction between lying to his or her mom about stealing a cookie or lying to protect somebody who's hiding from someone that can hurt them.


@Shinzo: Step off. Harry Potter is awesome. XD

People have conscious they're born with, I think. Is there anyway to prove either of is right?
God's idea of right and wrong is the Bible is pretty black and white too. I don't think that's just a coincidence.

However, the brain is underdeveloped at birth so even if there WAS conscious, you have a might-as-well-be brain dead meat bag without knowledge. You can't expect morals without knowledge and children know not of death until they experience it in some way.
Not really. God made the Bible so he SHOULD follow the rules. However, I find some of the rules bs. You can't compare an organism with no knowledge to an organism with all knowledge anyway.

Morals come from the heart (again, opinion), not the head. Why should logic care of someone does something wrong?
Which rules?
Yes you can, when that organism was made in His image and likeness.
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Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.
Actually, kids are literally unable to really develop their own morals. They're just doing what they do based off of what their parents say is good and bad and what they think they can get away with. So if their parents tell them it's good to kick the family dog, they'll kick the family dog. It's not about their purity and understanding of right and wrong. It's their ability to obey authority.
Kids have a really black and white idea of right and wrong and that's not always good. Like, say, a mom tells a kid that lying is wrong. But the kid can't make the distinction between lying to his or her mom about stealing a cookie or lying to protect somebody who's hiding from someone that can hurt them.


@Shinzo: Step off. Harry Potter is awesome. XD

People have conscious they're born with, I think. Is there anyway to prove either of is right?
God's idea of right and wrong is the Bible is pretty black and white too. I don't think that's just a coincidence.

However, the brain is underdeveloped at birth so even if there WAS conscious, you have a might-as-well-be brain dead meat bag without knowledge. You can't expect morals without knowledge and children know not of death until they experience it in some way.
Not really. God made the Bible so he SHOULD follow the rules. However, I find some of the rules bs. You can't compare an organism with no knowledge to an organism with all knowledge anyway.

Morals come from the heart (again, opinion), not the head. Why should logic care of someone does something wrong?
Which rules?
Yes you can, when that organism was made in His image and likeness.

Because you need to know what killing is before you can be scared of it, you can't just say people would be scared of killing because it is bad. Not to mention the heart pumps blood, nothing else. :S (( lol ))
For why knowledge should care for something is because they don't want them to be hurt. Your raised by kindness and you will continue kindness.
The rules in the bible that tells you how to live your life. Although, he can break those rules easily.
Just because we were shaped in its image does not mean we have the same knowledge as the guy and it is even proven. As I recall, you did say we do not know all that God knows. If that is the case, why wouldn't we if we were in his image?
and if you continue to say knowledge doesn't matter, what if being a LOWER organism of a being lower the standards of knowing morals? :S

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I think we have an internal sense of right and wrong, and that it gets kinda skewed as we grow up.

It's not healthy. All the iron is bad for you, you could get blood poisening, if it's your own blood you're suffering blood loss, and it's bad for your immune system.


As a Christian, the Bible's my standard. That's why.

I can't really explain because I don't know how. Something about it screams wrong to me.

An internal sense of right and wrong? As children?
Your mad, todays children suck.
I've seen Twilight, Harry Potter, the terrible cartoons, and music. They all suck. But those are likes, so lets get to the real deal. What if a child gets into a parent's gun? *We aren't speaking of WHY they have it*
The child is young and knows not what it does.
Do you think a child has a better accident of causing it to accidentally fire or a teenager? You tell me. It's all about the knowledge and personal experience that makes an opinion.

All the iron? There isn't enough iron in blood to poision you in one drink, you would have to drink ALOT of blood and we aren't saying Satanists are thirsty.
As for blood poisoning, that doesn't make sense. You can't exactly get blood poisoning.
If it is your own blood, then you get blood loss? That's if you drain ALOT of your blood all at once. Let's not forget premeditated draining. It's not that bad for your immune system and I would like to see a reason as to why.

The bible versed confused me. However, it seems strangled might have a clue as to you reading that context wrong.
Let's also not forget that non-Christians don't follow the Bible.
You can say something is out of your practices but that gives no reason why it is wrong.

So you don't know why you think it is bad?
Let's ponder what you said before...
Is it THAT bad to just say you find it "icky"? I mean, it isn't illegal to say you just detest it because drinking another man's blood seems nasty.

and yes, you cook the meat NOT exactly because of the blood but it is easier to break down the meat. or one of the reasons.

Glad to see you have so much faith in today's kids Shinzo. Really it's lovely to see how much you believe in them. xd But yeah, I think kids have a better moral compass then adults because theirs hasn't been worn down yet. I mean, did you feel more guilty lying as a kid or now?

http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/002411.html This site is the best one I could find on why drinking blood is bad for people. I'll keep looking, but Google isn't turning out anything too informative or accurate. And blood poisoning is an okay term as long as you aren't a doctor: http://www.medicinenet.com/sepsis/article.htm

Put it into context if you think it's wrong.

But that's an opinion. I thought I was supposed to be avoiding those. confused xd Just giving you a hard time. I do find it disgusting, but I like to have a reason to condemn a practice. Besides, I think it's wrong as well as 'icky'.

It's partly because of the blood, at least according to my cooking class teacher from last semester. Take it up with someone who deals with food, because I'm only going off what he told me.
Actually, kids are literally unable to really develop their own morals. They're just doing what they do based off of what their parents say is good and bad and what they think they can get away with. So if their parents tell them it's good to kick the family dog, they'll kick the family dog. It's not about their purity and understanding of right and wrong. It's their ability to obey authority.
Kids have a really black and white idea of right and wrong and that's not always good. Like, say, a mom tells a kid that lying is wrong. But the kid can't make the distinction between lying to his or her mom about stealing a cookie or lying to protect somebody who's hiding from someone that can hurt them.


@Shinzo: Step off. Harry Potter is awesome. XD

People have conscious they're born with, I think. Is there anyway to prove either of is right?
God's idea of right and wrong is the Bible is pretty black and white too. I don't think that's just a coincidence.
Without being raised around other people we don't learn most of the things that make us recognizably human. It's obviously highly unethical to purposely raise a child in isolation, but there are a few cases of children who were raised in isolation and then later discovered called feral children. When they're discovered they don't know language (and are never able to learn it after a pretty young age) and never understand completely how to interact with other people. So as far as morals go, they aren't good or evil. Just neutral. I believe that it's a purely man-made concept.

Also, I think the Bible is anything but black and white on its morals. Take killing. It's wrong. But there are a lot of examples of the good guys killing in the Bible. Often the one doing the killing is God. But how can killing be absolutely wrong if God does it?
Or if killing is wrong, what are we doing in a war? Is killing okay as long as the other person worships a different God than you? God in a different way than you?
I think the message that the Bible gives, or at least how it's interpreted, is closer to "Killing is wrong, unless the other person is being really, really difficult."
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