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 Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:47 am
Strega Mama Little Batwing Hoshioni yes go look at ancient roman statues. thats how they winded up wearing only togas, and stuff....XD those statues are based off average non deformed people.
Sculptors tended to create idealized forms of the human body in their work, because perfection was the preferred style of art back then. Yes, the proportions on statues look very lifelike, but even though they used real models, they almost always gave their statues a more perfected look by leaving out the normal flaws of the human body.
So if you don't see any ancient Greek or Roman sculptures with sagging breasts, it's not because their breasts never sagged, it's because perky breasts were considered more ideal. not to mention the greek statures all had perfectly symmetrical faces, which real humans have not. i know alot of people confuse the more realistic renascence era sculptures with the actual greek ones too though.
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 12:53 am
Strega Mama Keith Valken Lionheart The second thing you can do is... lose weight. Breasts are mostly fatty tissue, which is removed by losing weight. Now, there is no such thing as spot reduction, so if you wanna reduce your breast size, you're going to end up losing a few dress sizes too, but it's the cheapest, healthiest, safest way to lower the size of your breasts. not that easy. i eat healthy and exercise and im fat. i've always been fat, im always going to be fat. there's nothing wrong with being fat and there's nothing i can do about it. most people cant just loose weight like that. now that said, lately i've been "training" myself bra-free to strengthen the muscles. my biggest problem is finding shirts that are cut to look good bra-free. ive found one of my old maternity shirts that looks like a normal shirt that looks pretty decent with me being bra-free. EVERYONE can lose weight. Everyone who doesn't have a thyroid problem, that is. If you're not losing weight, you're doing something wrong. Weightloss starts in the diet. There are obvious health issues when it comes to being fat. Obvious ones.
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:41 am
Keith Valken Lionheart Strega Mama Keith Valken Lionheart The second thing you can do is... lose weight. Breasts are mostly fatty tissue, which is removed by losing weight. Now, there is no such thing as spot reduction, so if you wanna reduce your breast size, you're going to end up losing a few dress sizes too, but it's the cheapest, healthiest, safest way to lower the size of your breasts. not that easy. i eat healthy and exercise and im fat. i've always been fat, im always going to be fat. there's nothing wrong with being fat and there's nothing i can do about it. most people cant just loose weight like that. now that said, lately i've been "training" myself bra-free to strengthen the muscles. my biggest problem is finding shirts that are cut to look good bra-free. ive found one of my old maternity shirts that looks like a normal shirt that looks pretty decent with me being bra-free. EVERYONE can lose weight. Everyone who doesn't have a thyroid problem, that is. If you're not losing weight, you're doing something wrong. Weightloss starts in the diet. There are obvious health issues when it comes to being fat. Obvious ones. and you believe that diet industry propoganda? i'm sorry. no, not everyone can. my metabolism is just really really slow. it's a genetic thing. i eat tons of fresh veggies, i hardly ever eat meat, even then only chicken and fish. only whole grains. drink tons of water. i walk(i walked 3 and a half miles yesterday just on a whim), i bellydance, i play wiifit plus like a champ. i'm healthy. all my blood tests say i'm healthy, i feel healthy. i AM healthy. i'm also fat. i have ALWAYS been fat, i will ALWAYS be fat. i'm fine with that, i love me and i'm not about to harm myself by "dieting" because some arbitrary power states i should be ashamed. so say that being fat is unhealthy is showing a failed logic leap. things that can make a person fat can make a person unhealthy but being fat in and of itself means nothing health-wise. a+b+c=x does NOT mean a=x. this is the leap you are taking here. healthy and fat live together so much more than people seem to realize.
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:09 pm
Being braless is fine, in the comfort of your own home.
I do that all the time because there's no need since your in your home and all...unless you have a father or brothers in the house that's a bad idea.
As far as seeing women not wear bra's in public...I find it to be rather inappropriate and insufficient. I believe that women should respect themselves more and just wear a bra in public. Plus some women have rather bigger chests....and well seeing that isn't always very pretty.
It may be attractive to some people to have big chest, but its actually unhealthy to leave them hanging because of the gravity that pulls them down and its not attractive because they do tend to get stretch marks.
Those bra-less bra's are interesting, where it just covers the n****e.
But to be honest, I feel more comfortable wearing a bra. They aren't always comfortable, but I rather know that my chest is going to stay put rather than bounce around.
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:15 am
Dearest Ashley As far as seeing women not wear bra's in public...I find it to be rather inappropriate and insufficient. I believe that women should respect themselves more and just wear a bra in public. Plus some women have rather bigger chests....and well seeing that isn't always very pretty. It may be attractive to some people to have big chest, so we should put our health at risk because of the rampant sexist attitudes purveyed by the mainstream? why should i care what shallow dolts find attractive? Quote: but its actually unhealthy to leave them hanging because of the gravity that pulls them down and its not attractive because they do tend to get stretch marks. this is aload of BS, you know that, right? Gravity has absolutely nothing to do with sagging breasts, its all about your genes and aging. i hear this same propeganda used to prevent shallow people from breastfeeding and it enrages me. also stretch marks are NOT cause by being bra-free, they're caused by growth spurts, particularly during puberty. thats how i got mine, i jumped from being flat and prepubescent to a 36DDD. also you're letting your shallow show again. i dont think anyone here cares what sexists think. Quote: But to be honest, I feel more comfortable wearing a bra. They aren't always comfortable, but I rather know that my chest is going to stay put rather than bounce around. its fine that you personally choose to wear one, but dont come in here flaunting your diluted opinions as fact and try to push it on to other people. there is nothing that pisses me off more than people trying to force their views on others.
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:52 pm
I'm not very large in the chest department, so I can easily go braless in public and no one notices as long as I'm wearing at least two layers. cool feelsgoodman.jpg
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:57 pm
Strega Mama Keith Valken Lionheart Strega Mama Keith Valken Lionheart The second thing you can do is... lose weight. Breasts are mostly fatty tissue, which is removed by losing weight. Now, there is no such thing as spot reduction, so if you wanna reduce your breast size, you're going to end up losing a few dress sizes too, but it's the cheapest, healthiest, safest way to lower the size of your breasts. not that easy. i eat healthy and exercise and im fat. i've always been fat, im always going to be fat. there's nothing wrong with being fat and there's nothing i can do about it. most people cant just loose weight like that. now that said, lately i've been "training" myself bra-free to strengthen the muscles. my biggest problem is finding shirts that are cut to look good bra-free. ive found one of my old maternity shirts that looks like a normal shirt that looks pretty decent with me being bra-free. EVERYONE can lose weight. Everyone who doesn't have a thyroid problem, that is. If you're not losing weight, you're doing something wrong. Weightloss starts in the diet. There are obvious health issues when it comes to being fat. Obvious ones. and you believe that diet industry propoganda? i'm sorry. no, not everyone can. my metabolism is just really really slow. it's a genetic thing. i eat tons of fresh veggies, i hardly ever eat meat, even then only chicken and fish. only whole grains. drink tons of water. i walk(i walked 3 and a half miles yesterday just on a whim), i bellydance, i play wiifit plus like a champ. i'm healthy. all my blood tests say i'm healthy, i feel healthy. i AM healthy. i'm also fat. i have ALWAYS been fat, i will ALWAYS be fat. i'm fine with that, i love me and i'm not about to harm myself by "dieting" because some arbitrary power states i should be ashamed. so say that being fat is unhealthy is showing a failed logic leap. things that can make a person fat can make a person unhealthy but being fat in and of itself means nothing health-wise. a+b+c=x does NOT mean a=x. this is the leap you are taking here. healthy and fat live together so much more than people seem to realize. Woo! whee I'm not fat, but reading that made me happy. I always feel for the big girls who get looked down on because they weren't born with the genetics for a high metabolism like I was. No one deserves the flak that big girls get in our society.
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 11:57 am
my boobs are a D. 80% of the time i don't wear em, inside of the comfort of my home or out in public. it isn't a big deal really; why should i have to conform to standards set by OTHER people about MY body?
but i do own 1 bra that i might wear under a whim just for the hell of it and 1 sports bra to wear while running or maybe sometimes when im out in the field farmin.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:30 pm
I don't wear bras anymore. I seriously wish I'd decided to go bralass sooner! So much more comfortable, and it's helped me accept my body a lot more. I'm really not a fan of how bras serve to perpetuate the belief that my breasts are entirely there for sexual purposes. I don't like how bras change the size and shape of my breasts; it's unrealistic.
When I first started going braless, I didn't like the idea of my nipples showing, so I bought those stickers to cover them. Then I found I didn't like that look either, so I learned to love my nipples smile
The only real "problem" is the same one I had with bras: sweating. With a bra, the sweat would be absorbed by the bra, and without, my tshirt gets it. I found a swipe of deodorant under each breast fixes that, but I try not to use it too much; I'm not entirely comfortable with having deodorant that close to my milk-makers razz But it's a solution for now.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:14 pm
I have to disagree with Stega Mama on the not being able to lose weight department. if you were committed you could by taking it day by day (regardless of health condition). I have an uber slow metabolism too and i eat bad food so i gain as fast as a pregnant lady and i could probably lose 5 pounds a month but thats it, no more than that.
But i do agree with you that dieting is garbage, just plain pansy garbage to make money out of to provide a "solution". And I really like that you love yourself for who you are and I think you are very capable of making your own desicions (like walking 3 miles on a whim) thats awsome because you made the choice to do it and not because of propaganda. And I agree with you when you say that just because someone is fat doesnt mean they will automatically get diabetes or their knees will grow weak or whatever but I do think that being fat increases our chances of these problems, its just our choice to do something about it or not.
As for going braless, hey who am i to say you cant do it cuz it looks ugly, i mean whats the definition of ugly anyway, 17 magazine? nope our society built it on its own. just like the society in mexico likes short and big women and society in france likes women who dont shave.
Personally, I wouldn't want to go braless because i dont like the way it feels, ive just always had a bra on, even when i sleep, im used to it and i like it. I like the different ways the bras can make you look too. Bras to me are like fashion too, I like to make mine match what im wearing hehehe
And one final comment, I really wonder how many guys are reading these posts and totally enjoying it too haha buncha perverts the lot'of you!! haha
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:53 pm
Bras trigger my dysphoria.
Going braless triggers my dysphoria.
I don't really have a solution, other than maybe an eating disorder or an operation- which doctors won't do to treat my dysphoria because they don't acknowledge my gender and consider my modifications to be mutilations.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:40 pm
Esiris Bras trigger my dysphoria. Going braless triggers my dysphoria. I don't really have a solution, other than maybe an eating disorder or an operation- which doctors won't do to treat my dysphoria because they don't acknowledge my gender and consider my modifications to be mutilations. what i do is use shelf tank-tops. they give me just enough support for my own aesthetic preferences but dont have the same health consequences as bras. maybe that would be a little better for you?
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:51 pm
sakura-schan I have to disagree with Stega Mama on the not being able to lose weight department. if you were committed you could by taking it day by day (regardless of health condition). I have an uber slow metabolism too and i eat bad food so i gain as fast as a pregnant lady and i could probably lose 5 pounds a month but thats it, no more than that. oh really? then tell me why I am still fat despite being active and healthy? i think perhaps you need to do your scientific research into the topic. i also suggest the book "the obesity myth" Quote: but I do think that being fat increases our chances of these problems no. correlation is NOT causation. fat itself does not do anything to your health unless it impedes your mobility. true statistic: only 1/3 of heart disease sufferers are fat. Quote: just like the society in mexico likes short and big women and society in france likes women who dont shave. this is not only inaccurate, but borderline racist. the french society is just as obsessed with removal of body hair as america is. Quote: And one final comment, I really wonder how many guys are reading these posts and totally enjoying it too haha buncha perverts the lot'of you!! haha this is really sexist. it implies that men cannot read about womens' health issues without being aroused, which is unfair and untrue.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 9:05 pm
Ok I stand corrected, MOST people who are fat are capable of losing weight. But then again, it is much harder when the US has a lot of powerful fast food companies who are allowed to get away with a lot of crap. And its also been powered by the people paying them to continue their production.
I'm curious as to why you're still fat even though you live a healthy lifestyle though. I don't mean to pry I'm just curious. And you're right I do need to do more research on this topic and find statistics and stuff. Thank's for recommending that book, I will look it up tomorrow at my work, I work at a library.
I believe we are saying the same thing when you say "correlation is not causation" and when i say "just because someone is fat doesn't mean they will automatically get diabetes...but it increases our chances" so theres still a percentage of getting a disease or whatever but it doesnt mean we will just cause we're fat.
As for the comment I made on Mexico and France, I was using that stereotype to compare it with the US version of beauty of skinny models. But you're right, now that I read it over, it does sound racist, I did not mean it like that.
And you are right about my final comment. I meant it as a joke, a bad one though. I also meant guys as in teenagers who's hormones are out of wack but I also don't think that many men would read all our comments. and to clarify i didnt mean all men.
And how do you take apart my message and reply to it as a quote like that?
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