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MatchaCosmos

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:09 pm


Alaois
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You do realize that hunter gathers had there own deities or they most likely did, the advent of the agricultural revolution did not suddenly spark religion


source/proof?

he has none. check the bolded. he's talking out his a**. he has no idea what he's talking about. =/
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:20 pm


~Ichigo_Pie~
Alaois
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You do realize that hunter gathers had there own deities or they most likely did, the advent of the agricultural revolution did not suddenly spark religion


source/proof?

he has none. check the bolded. he's talking out his a**. he has no idea what he's talking about. =/


true, but hey maybe he can pull a source/proof out of his a** for once and have an 'adult' debate for once.
stare

Alaois

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MatchaCosmos

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:37 pm


Alaois
~Ichigo_Pie~
Alaois
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You do realize that hunter gathers had there own deities or they most likely did, the advent of the agricultural revolution did not suddenly spark religion


source/proof?

he has none. check the bolded. he's talking out his a**. he has no idea what he's talking about. =/


true, but hey maybe he can pull a source/proof out of his a** for once and have an 'adult' debate for once.
stare

doubt it. and he can't even stay civil with people with a disagreement. I mean hell, you and I definitely disagree a lot and we don't wish death on each other stare he needs to spend more time researching and educating himself instead of arguing and not knowing what he's talking about.

you know, he and I were in a debate once and he used a source that said EXACTLY what I said. I had to point it our to him 3 times before he admitted he was wrong. and even then, he made up an excuse saying he made a grammatical error when reading it. No, it just proves his reading comprehension sucks -_-
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:26 am


~Ichigo_Pie~
Alaois
~Ichigo_Pie~
Alaois
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You do realize that hunter gathers had there own deities or they most likely did, the advent of the agricultural revolution did not suddenly spark religion


source/proof?

he has none. check the bolded. he's talking out his a**. he has no idea what he's talking about. =/


true, but hey maybe he can pull a source/proof out of his a** for once and have an 'adult' debate for once.
stare

doubt it. and he can't even stay civil with people with a disagreement. I mean hell, you and I definitely disagree a lot and we don't wish death on each other stare he needs to spend more time researching and educating himself instead of arguing and not knowing what he's talking about.

you know, he and I were in a debate once and he used a source that said EXACTLY what I said. I had to point it our to him 3 times before he admitted he was wrong. and even then, he made up an excuse saying he made a grammatical error when reading it. No, it just proves his reading comprehension sucks -_-


True, we do disagree on a few subjects.

And that does prove he has no reading comprehension and that he shouldn't be online or even trying to debate with people
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Alaois

Prophet


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:20 pm


Reply to Ichigio_Pie:

I disproved all of there so called contradictions
They never quoted anywhere were i change me religious beliefs
Ive never chanegd "My story"

I told you that im allwoed to talk about it, but im not allwoed to reveal locations and etc

There no more ridiculous then youre beliefs are to me

Actually im not throwing fits, now you may take them as that but im not, the way i phrase them ......... yes it makes it sound that way and thats my fault but i in no way throw fits, i get angry yes but i dont throw fits
And those rude things have more gavity then you think >.>
for example if i went up to the pope and started saying things that really ment nothing to me but were plane flat heretical to him, how do you think hes going to repsond

No we are just loyal to the imperial family, who we would die for, if we die in the name of the imperial family we are serving the greater purpose and we are defending the daughter of the divine mother. And we are secure, but in no way are we going to allow you to insult the imperial family, oh you can disagree with them and you dont have to accept the empress, but there is no way that were going to let you soil her name

There are languages that no human on earth currently understands, now i forgot there names but no matter, becuase our language is not even human and does not even use human charecters, it would be impossible to decipher them without our version of a rosetta stone which does exist, though its highly frowned upon to have copys of books in english, or other human languages

And im defending my religions rights >.>
rally the horde of ignorance for all i care, but there is no way that youre going to get me to back down and denounce my beleifs
Sooner or later youre going to realize that im spending so much time defending my religion that there is no way that it cannot not be real


Second reply to Ichigio
Ever visited a cave site? why the hell would they paint those if they did not have some sence of a higher power


I read who knows how many history books and websites every week so you cant say im spouting off things i dont know
Explain to me where all the cave paintings, monuments and etc fit into the "hunter gathers had no religious beliefs" theory, now they may not have had gods and godess in the fashion that we do but they did have a sence of a higher power, now exactly what form these powers took, i cant say since diffrent cultures have diffrent ideas


Reply to Alaois :
No i said that the human race made them myths, they are actually quite diffrent then what youre stupid myths portray them as but never the less they are the beings behind some of the storys, there are quite a few of youre myths though that dont even exist on wither world

That was not a lie, nothing ive said so far is a lie
now i may type something and realize ive made a typo or phrased soemthing wrong and etc but i dont lie >.>

actually when you refer to another person inside of you youre most likly going to use he or she and not I, now if i wanted to refer to myself then yes i would use I

The Cenrelon Confederation is one of many groups that have formed in the hidden world for the advantage of tis members, its made of the nations, kingdoms, empires and etc that exist on mainland asia (exculding the middle east which is part of the Hishlar confederation, the remnants of Hishlar proper)

I can actually be really good about that if i want to, but im not going to waste the time to do those things for youre pleasure and ease

Is everything i type a lie to you?

No, i was apalogizing becuase i realized i really should have been giving you two the time and respect that i think you dont deserve but i know you do, but i see that fell on deaf ears
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:09 pm


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Reply to Ichigio_Pie:

I disproved all of there so called contradictions
They never quoted anywhere were i change me religious beliefs
Ive never chanegd "My story"

Just because you disapprove of their proof, doesn't change the fact that they brought forward several quotes where you changed your story. Give it up, we've caught you changing your story and proven it. I don't see how you can be so proud that you can't even admit we caught you lieing when we brought forth many quotes. You have changed your story. And no, your religious beliefs havent changed, you just keep adding to them and adding to them with more and more bullshit. But you have changed the story. Like how she was killed two years ago and the baby is one year old. We caught you on that. It wasn't a "typo" because the original quote was many days ago, you probably didn't remember what bullshit you spouted, or figured we wouldn't remember with how much you've spouted to us.

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I told you that im allwoed to talk about it, but im not allwoed to reveal locations and etc

no. several times whenever you mentioned something of your religious beliefs, if anyone asked at all, you would say "I'm not allowed to say anything." or if you start on a rant, youd stop after just alluding to the belief, then say "But, you won't believe me anyway if I keep going" and when I said to keep going, you cleverly made a way to avoid talking about it anymore by changing the subject. Why change the subject? Because you didn't have time to make up anything new that fit in. =/

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There no more ridiculous then youre beliefs are to me

First off, learn grammar. Yours is atrocious in this sentence alone. I've told you a billion times. "I type fast." Is not an excuse for all the mistakes you make. If you cannot type quickly and efficiently, then slow the ******** down, or use spell check. Seriously, if you type better, you might be able to hide your idiocy and immaturity a little better.
Now that that is out of the way. At least, no matter how ridiculous my beliefs are to you, there's probably millions that practice my beliefs and mine are socially and politically recognized as an official religious affiliation. I get those religious protection laws, unlike you with your fake religion.

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Actually im not throwing fits, now you may take them as that but im not, the way i phrase them ......... yes it makes it sound that way and thats my fault but i in no way throw fits, i get angry yes but i dont throw fits

RIIIIGHT because wishing death on people for insulting you is SOOOOO mature. Do I even really need to point out how retarded you are making yourself look? Sitting there going "You're so MEAN to me DX ... You insulted my lady's daughter Dx ... It hurt my feelings so bad Dx ... I hope you DIE!!!1!!1!!one" -_-;; Really? My nephew didn't even wish death on me when he threw tantrums. The worst I heard was I hate you and I wish I was never born. You sound like a little kid, you're crying like a little kid. Please exit via the big red X button in the top right of your screen and go cry in a corner now please.

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And those rude things have more gavity then you think >.>
for example if i went up to the pope and started saying things that really ment nothing to me but were plane flat heretical to him, how do you think hes going to repsond

actually, I have a feeling he'd tell God to smite me and when it doesn't happen he'll defend God's existence by saying "He's cooking something up." [/ Family guy reference]

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No we are just loyal to the imperial family, who we would die for, if we die in the name of the imperial family we are serving the greater purpose and we are defending the daughter of the divine mother. And we are secure, but in no way are we going to allow you to insult the imperial family, oh you can disagree with them and you dont have to accept the empress, but there is no way that were going to let you soil her name

again. If you were secure in your "beliefs" and as mature as you claim to be, you would have walked out of here a LONG time ago saying something to the extent of "Whatever you say." But no, you wish death on people and say that it is in claiming honor for your religion. you do realize what a jack a** you're being to real religions that have suffered through many beatings, tragic incidents, prejudice, massacres and any other terrible genocide that could be imagined right? You're making an up front mockery of them and what they had to go through with this bull s**t. 156 "human" followers? There's more people than that in my subdivision. Seriously. This isn't a RELIGION. You will not become a religion until you have gotten legal recognition as one. Anything else is viewed as by a cult. Stop degrading the name of religion.

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There are languages that no human on earth currently understands, now i forgot there names but no matter, becuase our language is not even human and does not even use human charecters, it would be impossible to decipher them without our version of a rosetta stone which does exist, though its highly frowned upon to have copys of books in english, or other human languages

Riiight. I'm supposed to believe this? Where's your proof? Where's your sources. Have you not figured out that if you can't "remember a certain fact" (in your case, make up something half-ways realistic sounding) you shouldn't be using it to back up your side without doing some research? I'll leave my arguments for this alone until you do some research and come back with some proof. Be grateful, brat.

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And im defending my religions rights >.>

no, you're defending your pride and ego.

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rally the horde of ignorance for all i care, but there is no way that youre going to get me to back down and denounce my beleifs

again. We never said to denounce your beliefs, if they're real. We said to bring us proof if they're real, until then, there is no other way you can convince us otherwise that this is not the fictional work of some little emo kid with too much time on his hands.

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Sooner or later youre going to realize that im spending so much time defending my religion that there is no way that it cannot not be real
how much time you spend fighting over it does not prove what is real or not. I've seen people (especially kids who have been caught lieing) make up more lies to cover their a**. Hell, I had my neighbor believing for 4 years that we lived on the moon when we were little. =/ seriously. It proves that you just want to win, and you won't.

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Second reply to Ichigio
Ever visited a cave site? why the hell would they paint those if they did not have some sence of a higher power

the only cave paintings I have ever seen documented their life and their struggles. Gathering food, mating, hunting, defending territory. Perhaps a little nature-related themes. But I haven't seen any that depicted any form of worship to a higher power. And even then, if they did have a higher power, then they would have as a "community" or "tribe" worshiped as a whole which would for all intents and purposes classify it as a legit religious sect. Your beliefs, however, happen to only be shared by you. And 155 other "people" which you have failed to give us any way to verify this. Which just tells us, there are none.

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I read who knows how many history books and websites every week so you cant say im spouting off things i dont know
Funny how you claim to have all this knowledge and background research, and you know we want sources and proof to validate your rants, yet you fail to provide us with anything that says you know what you're talking about. In fact the only time you've brought a source forward in a debate, it proved you wrong. =/

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Explain to me where all the cave paintings, monuments and etc fit into the "hunter gathers had no religious beliefs" theory, now they may not have had gods and godess in the fashion that we do but they did have a sence of a higher power, now exactly what form these powers took, i cant say since diffrent cultures have diffrent ideas
I've already explained my opinions on these cave paintings but I'll touch on this. ALL religions that have belief of a "higher power" have at least one deity. TRY to argue me on this. Find me one religion that has no deity but believes in a higher power. Find me one. Buddhism, don't try this one. They don't have belief in a higher power, they have belief in a Spiritual Nirvana, inner peace, complete purification of the soul. No higher power.

And yes, everything you type IS a lie because you have lost your credibility, know you lost credibility, and do not provide sources for any claims (though we have been telling you from day one to bring us sources or shut up)

By the way, you don't have to tell everyone in the world something about your religion. We really don't care what you believe. It's bull its fake. If you know we're going to "bash" you (which is funny because in the beginning we respectfully just asked for the proof), then just shut the ******** up and keep it to yourself. You don't get rights to practice your "religion" freely. You would be doing everyone, including yourself, a huge favor if you never related anything anyone ever said to your beliefs again. Unless you can back up your claims. Until then, shut the ******** up.

MatchaCosmos


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:24 pm


I can provide links to back up my side of the argument on pre agricultural religious beliefs if you want

Oh and ichigio, you have never once asked for more info on my beliefs, either that or i never saw the questions, now if they were phrased as an insult of course im not going to reply to them and just move on to another subject, but otherwise that means i did not see the question

Lol you do realize that your first sentence is a contradiction
All they quoted was a typo, idiot, everyone makes them

What you call ading is me telling you more facts about my religion, so no im not adding and adding as you term it

>.> Is everyone perfect ................... No
i said those because for one its allot easier to just type "its secret" then to actually detail every last thing that i can and cannot talk about, that and i was trying to delay a premature basher fight that came despite that minor precaution

WTF i did spell check that >.>

Actually if you started to insult the person we view as a divine child, of course im going to wish detah upon you, if I started to rant and rave on the pope to some really super catholic, of course that person is either going to say I'm going to burn in hell (same as death) or there going to wish in there head that i would

Nice, quoting one the lamest show ever in a religious argument, really it makes you sound and look so much more sophisticated and smart >.>

Ohhhhhhhh but its to fun >.> , ever heard examples of cultures that place high importance on honor? Mines the same, your assaulting the honor and pride of my religion, so im going to defend it

My ego O.o how the hell do i have an ego, ya I do have pride, but so does every person on this planet

Well i guess ill have to provide very vague proof, with evidence that you’re going to dismiss as bull the second i show them to you, because that’s the best i can do

How the hell do i have to much time eon my hand !!!!!!!!!!!!
i have a ton of homework every day and then i have chores, and that usually takes up most of life along with school >.>

You want me to go away?
Then shut the ******** up yourself and then apologize for the rude, prejiduce and spiteful comments you have made, oh and aslo i would like to post without you cyber stalkers(LOL, JK) attacking my every post, you even do it when i dont even mention my religion, or you pop up out of nowhere and start to fight me >.>
Ill apologize in due time but i dont see how you deserve it, since you provoked this whole thing and decided to carry it out and attack a religion that cant do anything about the things its goverment does (and they did that for our own good)
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:58 pm




Ya know what I've noticed.
Temporary sounds almost EXACTLY like a Christian fanatic as in, over the top, with the way he speaks about his wannabe religion.

Yet, he has before spoken out against it like- Why do Christians lie? And such. I'll find the quote if you want.

Too much of anything can be bad -_-



And and... family guy is awesome xD



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Alaois

Prophet

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:51 pm


I agree OMG A Name

...Illusion you're doing nothing but digging yourself into a deeper hole every time you reply back to one of us...

I hope you know that

..either way, take your religion, your divine leader (that wonderful one year old child), your lies and contradictions, ball it up into a tight little orb, and shove it up your own a**.

I do not take kindly to death wishes over someone as trivial as an internet argument, specially with someone as childish as you Illusion.

You couldn't even tell me a Death God/Deity after I gave you a nice list, hell it even listed 2 of the death gods for my religious belief...

-shrugs-

Either way, Illusion prove your religion is real in some other way besides your word or shut the ******** about it.

It isn't that hard
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:00 am


Alaois
prove your religion is real in some other way besides your word or shut the ******** about it.

It isn't that hard


this

MatchaCosmos


MatchaCosmos

PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:01 am


Omg A Name


Temporary sounds almost EXACTLY like a Christian fanatic as in, over the top, with the way he speaks about his wannabe religion.



and this

Omg A Name

And and... family guy is awesome xD


this is true too <33
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:33 am


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I can provide links to back up my side of the argument on pre agricultural religious beliefs if you want

Oh and ichigio, you have never once asked for more info on my beliefs, either that or i never saw the questions, now if they were phrased as an insult of course im not going to reply to them and just move on to another subject, but otherwise that means i did not see the question

what we want are links to back you your bullshit. Plain and simple. It's black and white.

Ummm, yeah you saw it. Because you replied with, "I can't divulge information about my religion" rolleyes

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Lol you do realize that your first sentence is a contradiction
All they quoted was a typo, idiot, everyone makes them

What you call adding is me telling you more facts about my religion, so no im not adding and adding as you term it

nope. They're convenient lies and excuses for you to cover yourself

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>.> Is everyone perfect ................... No
i said those because for one its allot easier to just type "its secret" then to actually detail every last thing that i can and cannot talk about, that and i was trying to delay a premature basher fight that came despite that minor precaution

WTF i did spell check that >.>

Of course you got "bashed" because you refused to act like an adult about things. And obviously didn't check it enough.

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Actually if you started to insult the person we view as a divine child, of course im going to wish detah upon you,
Of course, because you're a child with no tactfulness.

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if I started to rant and rave on the pope to some really super catholic, of course that person is either going to say I'm going to burn in hell (same as death) or there going to wish in there head that i would
No, they are not wishing death on you if they say that. They are telling you where your soul will go AFTER you die from what ever causes. And, while their doctrine says not to tell people they're going to hell, according to their doctrine, you will go to hell. Its not an insult. Its a warning.

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Nice, quoting one the lamest show ever in a religious argument, really it makes you sound and look so much more sophisticated and smart >.>

Haha, and not quoting anything proves poor debate skills on your part... OH WAIT- you used a quote once. And it helped MY argument =P work on your own intelligence before insulting mine. I happen to be very intelligent, and I happen to be doing excellent in college. I don't see you doing anything worthwhile with your life, Mister Emo child who makes up his own religious beliefs.

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Ohhhhhhhh but its to fun >.> , ever heard examples of cultures that place high importance on honor? Mines the same, your assaulting the honor and pride of my religion, so im going to defend it
Unfortunately your actions are doing just the opposite. You're making your "religion" out to look like a made up story some kid with too much time on his hands has. They must really be grateful to your contribution to the bettering of their beliefs. Since, you know, arguing it in a childish fashion with no support. If you don't have support don't talk about it.

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My ego O.o how the hell do i have an ego, ya I do have pride, but so does every person on this planet
Ego and pride work hand and hand together. People have pride to protect their ego. I don't mean pride in the sort of Patriotic sense. I mean pride as in the can't admit you're wrong when it has been so obviously proven to everyone except you.

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Well i guess ill have to provide very vague proof, with evidence that you’re going to dismiss as bull the second i show them to you, because that’s the best i can do

We've been saying from the beginning to give us any evidence that your religion is a real religion. You realize now the need of proof? And yet you concede we'll immediately knock it off as bull s**t. We'll take an unbiased look at anything you bring forward, but until that point your word is nothing. Kapeesh?

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How the hell do i have to much time eon my hand !!!!!!!!!!!!
i have a ton of homework every day and then i have chores, and that usually takes up most of life along with school >.>
And yet you manage to be on gaia arguing with us all hours of the day =/ Yeah, some high level prioritizing skills you have there.

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You want me to go away?
Then shut the ******** up yourself and then apologize for the rude, prejiduce and spiteful comments you have made, oh and aslo i would like to post without you cyber stalkers(LOL, JK) attacking my every post, you even do it when i dont even mention my religion, or you pop up out of nowhere and start to fight me >.>

I have not been anymore rude than need be. It only escalated because you don't know how to comprehend what we ask of you. I said go away if all you're going to do is b***h about how awful we are and how terrible we are. Do you know what we really are? LEVEL HEADED. We won't accept ANYTHING as truth unless it is common knowledge, or if there are sources to back this up. This is called critical thinking. It is wise you learn to question everything brought forth with no support. If you just trust everything openly, you're setting yourself up to be ******** over later in life.

Um no, we have only attacked you when you mentioned something about your beliefs. Hence why I was nice to you in my demotivational thread. Every time you brought up something religious we'd tell you to shut up and thats how it is. Bring Proof or Shut Up. It's not rocket science. It really doesn't take an Einstein I.Q. to figure out," They don't believe it. Perhaps I should show them its true, but until then, I'll keep to myself to avoid conflict."

And yes, I reply to every post directed at me. It is rude not to do so. And if you noticed, I actually reply to the WHOLE post. I don't ignore (oh- your words were "chose not to respond") arguments brought forth, and the great thing is, I've countered all your arguments with very well constructed arguments and you have yet to logically debunk them.

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Ill apologize in due time but i dont see how you deserve it, since you provoked this whole thing and decided to carry it out and attack a religion that cant do anything about the things its goverment does (and they did that for our own good)

WE provoked it?!?! From the BEGINNING we have told you bring us proof or stop talking about it. We were very obvious about this. YOU kept pushing and crying that it was real. If you had just shut up about it and stopped mentioning the so called "religion" you wouldn't be in this mess. So I will say this AGAIN for the bajillionth time::

Bring us proof or shut the ******** up.

MatchaCosmos

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