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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:27 pm
Just read your bibles, in 1 Kings 18:20-40 And if you don't have a bible...
Passage 1 Kings 18:20-40:
20 So Ahab sent word throughout all Israel and assembled the prophets on Mount Carmel. 21 Elijah went before the people and said, "How long will you waver between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him." But the people said nothing.
22 Then Elijah said to them, "I am the only one of the LORD's prophets left, but Baal has four hundred and fifty prophets. 23 Get two bulls for us. Let them choose one for themselves, and let them cut it into pieces and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. I will prepare the other bull and put it on the wood but not set fire to it. 24 Then you call on the name of your god, and I will call on the name of the LORD. The god who answers by fireāhe is God." Then all the people said, "What you say is good."
25 Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, "Choose one of the bulls and prepare it first, since there are so many of you. Call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire." 26 So they took the bull given them and prepared it. Then they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon. "O Baal, answer us!" they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made.
27 At noon Elijah began to taunt them. "Shout louder!" he said. "Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened." 28 So they shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed. 29 Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice. But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention.
30 Then Elijah said to all the people, "Come here to me." They came to him, and he repaired the altar of the LORD, which was in ruins. 31 Elijah took twelve stones, one for each of the tribes descended from Jacob, to whom the word of the LORD had come, saying, "Your name shall be Israel." 32 With the stones he built an altar in the name of the LORD, and he dug a trench around it large enough to hold two seahs [a] of seed. 33 He arranged the wood, cut the bull into pieces and laid it on the wood. Then he said to them, "Fill four large jars with water and pour it on the offering and on the wood."
34 "Do it again," he said, and they did it again. "Do it a third time," he ordered, and they did it the third time. 35 The water ran down around the altar and even filled the trench.
36 At the time of sacrifice, the prophet Elijah stepped forward and prayed: "O LORD, God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, let it be known today that you are God in Israel and that I am your servant and have done all these things at your command. 37 Answer me, O LORD, answer me, so these people will know that you, O LORD, are God, and that you are turning their hearts back again."
38 Then the fire of the LORD fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench.
39 When all the people saw this, they fell prostrate and cried, "The LORD -he is God! The LORD -he is God!"
40 Then Elijah commanded them, "Seize the prophets of Baal. Don't let anyone get away!" They seized them, and Elijah had them brought down to the Kishon Valley and slaughtered there.
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:07 pm
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:56 pm
Don't worry, I'll explain: Cutting is against God, no matter how 'good' you think it is. If God approved cutting then it wouldn't have been a tradition of the followers of baal.
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 4:28 pm
Lordian Guard Don't worry, I'll explain: Cutting is against God, no matter how 'good' you think it is. If God approved cutting then it wouldn't have been a tradition of the followers of baal. oh.. ok. ninja
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Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 5:48 pm
darkness my calling card i don't think its cool, there are better ways to die there are better ways to die...But those who seek death will not find it.
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 7:42 pm
Siren of Saturn darkness my calling card i don't think its cool, there are better ways to die there are better ways to die...But those who seek death will not find it. I think they might I mean if they seeked death by jumping off a thirty story building then they would probably die.
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Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 10:43 am
I wouldnt try it im afraid of pain, and i dont think its a good idea it just makes you more depressed when you think about why your doing it
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:38 am
I'm not sure how many people feel about this...but my opinion is very different from most Christians.
I am a strong Christian. But I will admit that I have an addiction. And it is cutting.
Part of me doesn't want to quit. I enjoy it too much. But recently, I was in chapel and my heart was burdened. I realized that this addiction is starting to control me and take over. I am not as close to God as I would like to be because this issue is creating a barrier between us.
I still want to cut. I feel the need to cut. But i talked to my roommate and she took away all of my glass and all of my blades. I'm getting help. Though it's not professional, I'd rather it not be. I've talked to multiple friends who now know that I have been cutting. Two friends in particular who have been there for me. And I've confessed to my boyfriend. They are all being supportive of me. They all know that this will be very difficult...and it's guaranteed that I'm going to get very pissy (pardon my swearing) about this. But they are all still by my side - taking the good and the bad.
Personally, I enjoy pain. I have a weird obsession with blood, and i'm a sadomasochist. Quitting is very difficult for me.
I dont encourage cutting. It's like getting a tattoo or a piercing - once you start it's hard to stop. it's an addiction. If you do cut, I suggest getting out of it before it starts to take control of your life.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:25 pm
I think it's bad, but I also understand that sometimes, people can't help it. I mean, honestly, I've thought about it before, I've tried it before, and it wasn't great. It didn't solve anything. Just made some of my friends mad at me, and made me closer to others. It's not a good habit to start.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:27 pm
lOlLy_PoPs_4_eVeRyOnE I got this friend thats got a few tricks that stopped him cutting. if it is the motion then cover your arm with playdough and cut that, if it's the blood take a wax crayon and rub it really hard on a peice of paper coz then it looks like blood. or if your generally angery throw things against walls. That's actually, a really good idea.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:18 pm
i'm guilty as well...i find out tomorrow what is the cause of it though...i have too many different symptoms to know....hopefully the doctor does.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:16 pm
Well god does say to not to harm the body, so I would say that it is wrong. But to my mind or whatever it is ok to some degree but not too much or often. But at tiimes i know its hard dealling with problems that we face.
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:55 am
I've tried cutting when i was depressed, but it didn't work. But it can be dangerous, so i personally wouldn't want to do it
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:23 am
i was a dumb lil kid growing up. i used to cut my fingers just to see blood. i wasn't/not emo or anything, i was just amused by the fact that red stuff came out of my finger when i ran it along a knife. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:52 pm
Aha... yeah, I'll admit that I'm a cutter. I'll put up another reason why people might want to cut, a medical one; some people are genetically/biologically hardwired for it. It runs in my family. I have so many people in my family who have done it or still do it it's not even funny. Also, there are certain mental disorders that are especially prone to it. I myself have Borderline Personality Disorder (o noez! You can't be Christian with that! ESPECIALLY when you exhibit symptoms of Dissociative PD~!!! Yeah, well... shut it! I try!), and people with that disorder are very prone to cutting. Not all of them do, but a lot do, especially if they're low functioning like I am (aha, I HATE walking out of the door, sometimes). I almost kind of see it as... a bridge between being abused and being normal. I can't deal with guilt at all, nor can I always control all of my actions (I'm bad about letting myself run on "autopilot" for awhile, especially in high stress situations). Yeah, whenever I feel guilty, I just can't handle the fact that I'm not spanked, anymore (where's the abuse, you ask? I was emotionally abused, not physically. The connection between the spanking and the emotional abuse is a looong story). I know it sounds weird, but it's the truth. Having BPD is like having your emotions cranked up to full volume at a rock concert whereas everyone else's emotions are about the volume of a car radio. Fuuun.
I'm not saying that cutting is okay AT ALL. I am, however, giving reasons as to why a person might cut, using my own experiences as an example, so that people can understand that it's not just some creepy thing that misguided teenagers do. I myself am not a teenager anymore, and in fact, I started cutting very late. I'm not demon possessed or anything like that; I'm just a human being trying to cope with what life has given to me. In fact, most people with mental illnesses are NOT demon possessed, not even people with Schizophrenia (I put this here because I know that SOMEBODY will try to argue with me about it). If people can understand cutting and other such social taboos, perhaps it can lead people to love the hurting around them instead of giving them long lectures about what losers they are.
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