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@responding to Subs - Haha, gotta love horrid. I'd totally watch subs all the time (and then in things where I like the dub I'd just watch both)...except I don't have that much time to read, and did I mention my japanese is mostly restricted to like cat, rat, riceball, b*****d and maybe a few other things I picked up from FMA (which I have burnt subbed - save for one random episode, 23 I think, where I managed to get a dub version. It was hilarious, I was shocked for several minutes the first time I watched it before I realized that I was "understanding" the "English" hahahaha, ahh good times).

@Kits - yea, thanks. At least me and my mom are good, I mean we had issues when I was younger - but those were your standard rebellious teenage angst issues. But yea I definitely understand that viewpoint. Especially as I'm watching a couple of friends totally fall apart at their parents now divorcing. First, I'm realizing that maybe it's not easier to stay together for the kids (because kids are a heck of a lot better at adjusting than adults). Secondly, I'm seeing the dependence that a solid family dynamic can build - and can understand the difficulties in losing that structure (even if I personally find no comfort in any such system, and therefore only connect intellectually to characters in this situation rather than emotionally).

Completely awful it was, and of course then there is the heart clencher when watching characters attempt to hide thier pasts and abuse. Their own self-blame, self-loathing, guilt and fear...ahh, these things make me cling to a character so hard, this pain I can relate to emotionally in addition to intellectually.

Mongolian Bun?! HAHAHA! Oh man I'd be SOOOOOO insulted *extreme sarcasm*

Haha, hmm, I might have to toss that out in the role play at some point, when I'm feeling a bit crackish...^_~.

I like FMA's dub, probably just b/c I love Ed's voice as Vic...ahh...however I do NOT like Vic as Tamaki, it's just weird. I HATE Host Club subbed, I watched half of the first episode and then quit it was just too painful. Never got to hear Mori's voice (since he doesn't really talk the first episode) but I just couldn't take it anymore, wanted to cry. I prefer the sub but I don't mind the dub of Yami no Matsuei. I also rather like the YGO dub, I think that's a good example of it depends on the content. The sub may be "better" but I think a series like YGO kind of lends itself to what they did with it. It's lighter, and sometimes the ridiculous works - and lends itself out to awesomeness like TAS. I also prefer Fruba dubbed because I HATE HATE HATE Yuki's voice in the sub so much. The voice is too obviously a girls, and yes he's a feminine character in ways, which is why I have a huge problem with a feminine voice. So while I like - and in some cases prefer - the Japanese voice actors I just can't stand Yuki so I have a hard time tolerating the sub and would much prefer the dub any day.

Yea, I think if you go on for the kids you'll end up effecting them anyhow, and it might be worse, all that negative and angry energy. I mean because you don't have to just "go on" you have to "hide" and that almost never works out. I think my friends are having such a hard time because both (of the two main examples I think of) came from such happy, stereotypically functional families. This just isn't something they were raised to deal with, whereas I'm so use to several sorts of dysfunction that divorce (something about 50% of espoused couples do anyhow) really wouldn't phase me.

Maybe, wish there were more GozxKaiba fics out there.

A dub convo??

When it comes to dub vs. sub, to me it depends on the anime and how much is/was edited. When I first start watching an anime it has to be dubbed, I don't know why.... maybe because it makes it easier for me to get into if it's in my native language? After watching the first ep I can usually decide if I like the series or not. If I like the series I'll look up info on it, which usually leads to telling me how much(if any) of the show was edited, then I take that info and decide to continue watching the dub or to look for a sub. If not too much has been edited I'll usually continue with the dub.... unless the voices are outrageously annoying or something like that.
When it come to voices I tend to favor voices with a hint of music in them or motherly type voices for women and softer and British voices for guys but I do enjoy the occasional gruff sounding voice, like my dearly beloved Vincent Valentine~<3. I'm such a fangil<3.
Some animes that I was a big fan of the dub version include Rurouni Kenshin(I melt whenever I hear Kenshin's voice), YYH(same with Kurama's), Samurai Champloo, Code Geass, FMA, Host Club(what WAS dubbed so far... also because Renege's(speelings) laugh make me want to punch babies), and Megaman NT Warrior/Rockman.exe(they're not gonna fish dubbing the series though... they deemed it to violent for kiddies here in the states...too bad... I loved all the voices for the most part).
When it comes to dub voice actors my favorites include Steve Blum, Veronica Taylor(I wish my voice sounded like hers
Oh, and to reply to Kits' mongolian bun, I was watching a sub of Seto vs. that ginzo guy(I forget his undubbed name....fail) and he summoned one of his BEWD and he CLEARLY said "Bluea-eyes Whita Dragoon" but the sub said "blue-eyes green dragon". I was like WTF?!?!

Yea I HATE Al's voice, so I'm always torn...love Ed's voice, hate Al's. I don't hate Ed's in the sub but I REALLY REALLY love him in the dub, omg so beautiful.

And yes, Vic is a dub actor in OHC, that's why I said I like him as Ed, hate him as Tamaki. I mean a voice that works so beautifully for Ed logically wouldn't work very well for a Tamaki, at least in my opinion. He changes it a bit, but that makes it worse somehow.

Yea, the Fruba characters are almost done with HS, so they really should have gone through puberty already so I can't accept that. Most boys aren't starting puberty at 15-16. The body hair might still be in the works, they might have a growth spurt or two left, but the voice is solid. High school would be much more awkward if THAT was where voices changed. Even if that could be the case, Yuki's voice is not just feminine or pre-pubescent, but obviously female. This bothers me. With other characters I "find out" they have female voice actors, that's not so bad, because their voice isn't so obvious. With Yuki it was three words into it that I was like, shoot that's a chick. Bugged the crap out of me. I think if Yuki wasn't one of my favorite characters it would bug me less, I like a guy not a girl, and so it just bugs me. Feels like a different character.

Yea I've watched little of the sub, but I think I'd still like the dub. None of the voices annoy me (at least with character's I like - with character's I don't like I don't mind being annoyed). As for editing and censoring, that's too bad, but I don't know what I'm missing so I can't miss it. I like it as is, a lot, so I think if the sub is that different than I'd really only ever like it in a different way. I have no idea if I'd even be able to like it better, as YGO served a purpose to my life and interests that "different" wouldn't necessarily do.

Yea, there's this quote: Don't lie to me unless you are absolutely certain I will never find out the truth. I think that applies well to any situation in regards to family.

There were definitely some boys in my high school who's voices hadn't deepened yet. XD But that is still different than sounding like a complete girl. I dunno, I never really categorized voices based on gender. I always preferred to just look at the tone they gave off, and how good the acting was, so I guess since Yuki gives off a feminine feel to me, even though he is male, the voice seems to suit him, and I never worried over if he should have a female voice or not. But to each their own. ^^
What's interesting is that I was super into the YUU*GI*OU dub as well. It started me on the anime, and I watched religiously up until right before Battle City Finals on the blimp. I can honestly say it was my favorite anime before I watched the Japanese version too. And when I made the switch, to me it was really the same series, the plot and characters that I loved and yet... it felt more real, made more sense, and seemed deeper. Like watching the Harry Potter movies and liking then reading the books and getting even more out of it. But I dunno, I generally am a pretty big sub-lover, and can be snide with dubs. But either way, I guess they way I saw it with YUU*GI*OU, it still had everything I loved about the series, but added on even more things to love.

XD That's awesome how you see the difference between male and female voices. I guess it's just never been something I payed particular attention to. Makes sense though; I consider myself pansexual, which pretty much completely ignores gender (both physical and mental) in determining attraction for someone. So characters with abnormal gender roles or manners have never bothered me.
I rewatch scenes in anime and such all the time anyway. XD I'm a bit obsessive-compulsive about it, wanting to catch every little detail. A lot of times, if there's an anime with a fast-paced opening theme, all watch the entire opening frame-by-frame. o.o It sucks when I watch anime with friends though, because then I have to contain myself. XD But I've also been watching subbed anime since I was in like... fifth grade, so I'm pretty used to balancing watching the animation and reading together.

Yeah, it seems difficult to find time to completely rewatch series. XP I want to rewatch YUU*GI*OU as well, since it's been quite a few years since I finished the series, and haven't touched it since.
I love German though. <3
And I know enough Japanese (and German, though I don't watch many things in German) to also not completely pay attention to the subtitles, so that might also be why I have less trouble with it.
Then again, I don't have the best hearing, so I also watching things with subtitles whenever I can, even in English. XD;; Luckily my friends don't usually mind.

I've seen all the episodes, but many of them only once, which makes me sad. (mostly the Egypt Arc, and Noa's Arc too)
Yes, and I also love just plain German singing; doesn't have to be specifically opera. German dubs are pretty awkward though...
Yes, I prefer if they put the subs in the empty black space as well. XD