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Converts.

I renounce my Catholicism, I renounce Jesus as my saviour, I believe in Torah, I believe in HaShem's true word and I believe in nothing besides what is halachally kosher.

As soon as Saul became Paul, he renounced his Jewishness, became A HUGE sinner in the eyes of HaShem (there is nothing worse in the Jewish world than a Jew converting to another religion) and rabbis would deem him as not Jewish, or at best a Jew that is in HUGE trouble with G-d.

Christianity began with Jesus and his followers who by the way was a Jew and were mostly Jews.

Straight out of the mouth of a Professor of Judaic studies and religious studies at Brown University:

Was Jesus a Jew? Of course, Jesus was a Jew. He was born of a Jewish mother, in Galilee, a Jewish part of the world. All of his friends, associates, colleagues, disciples, all of them were Jews. He regularly worshipped in Jewish communal worship, what we call synagogues. He preached from Jewish text, from the Bible. He celebrated the Jewish festivals. He went on pilgrimage to the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem where he was under the authority of priests.... He lived, was born, lived, died, taught as a Jew.
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You're contradicting yourself with this, you acknowledged it earlier on that if your mother was a Jew then you were a Jew. So if you go with the mainstream historical view on Jesus and his lineage then he was a Jew, if you don't then that's a whole separate topic altogether.

No, again, Semiremis.. basic history lessons unless you wish to say that the ivy league educated Classicists who are my mentors are full of s**t. Yes, it's an Ad Hom but I'm a Classicist and my main focus is Rome.

If Jesus actually existed then he would probably have not been a Jew but an Edomite. He was originally from Galilee, not Judea. Edomites were Canaanites, and all of the anti-semitism in the NT truly supports this.

You do realise Halachah did not exist until the Talmudic period?

In antiquity and in the Orthodox communities, if you decide you're not Jewish anymore, you are ostracised from the community.

Don't tell me that "Mary was a Jew, therefore.." Nooo, that rule didn't exist back then. If your father was a Jew, you're a Jew. Is YHVH a Jew? Is Joseph a Jew?


Joseph is certainly not from the correct bloodline to make Jesus moshaich.

ooh. I come back and I get a lot of comments. Very nice.

Well, IMVR as much as I love your comments, and believe you're wikipedia cites, and the thousand words you must have typed, I read about three quarters of it. I'm sorry. I'm a simple kind of person, like to keep things simple. And as much criticism was there, I would have invited it any day in my guild, Beautiful Day.

Yeshua was a shepherd of lost souls. When one went astray in a pack of 100, he would leave the 99 to care for themselves while he went out of his way to reclaim the lost sheep. The upside down characteristic that made Yeshua not only the Jew's moshiach but the Gentile's moshiach was the upside-down things he taught. When large crowds gathered at the Sermon on the Mount, Yeshua said that when an enemy strikes you on one cheek to turn your head and let them strike you on the other. When Yeshua asked Peter "Who do you say that I am?" Peter replied "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."

And if we put faith in Yeshua, and claim as Peter replied, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." If we repent and ask God that he would give us clean hands and pure hearts, and that God would use us for his kingdom. God's Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Spirit) enters us.

I am not ashamed of the gospel, Shadows-shine, Tsuikyo Moon, Semiremis, IMVR... not ashamed of what I believe. I won't give up the personal relationship I have with my creator.

As much as I am apart of the Jewish community, it does not matter. I know that God is with me.

Glory to God, Glory to God, Glory to God... Forever.

I never once implied that you should be ashamed of what you believe. I just simply stated based on facts that I have been presented That the religion seemed like an oxymoron and that Judaism and Christianity are too different to be intwertwined.

That's not ad hominem, it's an appeal to authority and possibly an argument by repetition depending on how you want to look at it. I'm pretty sure that most in this group know what your field of study is by now to some extent since you've leaned on it more than once. We aren't talking about Ivy league Classicists or what each of them know according to you.

It looks like you overlooked the excerpt I provided earlier, here is a smaller section of it (there is more info if you check out the source):

So, to say that he was a Jew is saying a truism, is simply stating an idea that is so obvious on the face of it, one wonders it even needs to be said. But, of course, it does need to be said because we all know what happens later in the story, where it turns out that Christianity becomes something other than Judaism
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So I guess you are saying that that Ivy league Judaic scholar is full of s**t since he paints the widespread understanding of Jesus as a Jew? You don't have to answer that.

So far all we have is the more mainstream view (which by no means makes it correct in and of itself) that Jesus was a Jew, and then we have your argument that you haven't backed up other than by using a logical fallacy (appeal to authority) and by expressing your overall discontent with the entire notion of Jesus as a Jew.

God Cares. ^_^ Isn't that the most important thing?