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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:13 pm


Fredrick Baron
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I'm a christian, but I despise those who try to force Christianity on others.

I know, right? It's their choice. You can't make anyone belief anything that they don't want to. People who try to only end up making them dislike all Christians. It's irritating.


perfect example... their not christian though... Al-Queada tried to force their realigion on us... we didnt accept... they attacked us... we retaliated and aer giving them the hell that they deserve before we kill them and send them to hell

Its God's job to forgive Bin Ladin, Its our job to set up the meeting ~USMC

Amen bro... USMC will make Bin Laden sing.

WellAmerica will... Doesnt mean that the USMC will be the ones to find him but it is most likely that they will...
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:55 pm


Gossijay
I think the biggest challenge for most Christians is spreading the news about God's love. What do you think?

actually it's pretty easy to tell people about God, it's getting them to listen and change their ways that's the hard part. I had an atheist friend, for four years she hadn't talked to me because she said i was a '"f***ing moron" to beleive that there was a god, she also said I had to stop telling her about God. I couldn't stop so she said we couoldn't see eachother and longer. About two months ago, she had a near death experience in a car crash. Two days after the crash, when she came out of the coma, she called me. She said she'd seen something she couldn't describe with words, and wanted me to tell her about the Lord. We spent four hours on the phone that night, talking about God. She is now a happy christian, and we are once again best friends. It took four years, but she came around.

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Abyssia Holland

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:09 pm


Sheagorath_The_MadGod
explain to me this

Other religions dont mind christians, so long as you leave them alone
and yet christians seem to think that all the people in the world who are content with there current religion need to be "saved" and converted to a religion that i view as judgmental, contradictive and corruptive
also i will never forgive the catholic, christian etc religions becuase of what they did stare . I believe in multiple gods and godess and who knows how many demi-gods so im going to go to hell now stare ............ the worst my religion will do to someone after death is make it more difficult to find youre anscestors star


Um, excuse me? You accuse us of judging, and you go on to judge an entire belief system just because of what some people did back hundreds of years ago? I can only speak for myself, and my view is, "If people want to believe in something different, that's their decision. It's their choice, I'll let them be unless they try to twist what Christianity is about." If people who aren't Christians are truly curious as to what we Christians believe, I'll try to give them as much information as possible. The rest is up to them.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:18 pm


actually does it not say in the bible to spread youre gods word?
you go and tell evryone to worship youre god and that they are going to hell if they dont, whats up with that, i dont think that there are a horrible amount of people interested in christianity so why do you try and convert everyone?

actually im using events, beliefs and etc from the known beginigs of christianity etc all the way to modern times to asses youre religion and so far it does not look overly pretty

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Abyssia Holland

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:26 pm


Okay, this is in response to the comments about homosexuality. If God had truly intended for it to be okay to love someone of the same gender, then why did he create both men and women instead of just men orwomen? Why complicate things?

There. I said it. I am not going to argue about this any more as I am not someone who argues just for the sake of arguing. No one's changing my mind, and I am not going to lose my sanity in a prolonged battle of text.

Oh, and by the way, here's a part from the Bible that evidently does have something to say on the issue.

Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.
LEVITICUS 18:22
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:32 pm


Sheagorath_The_MadGod
actually does it not say in the bible to spread youre gods word?
you go and tell evryone to worship youre god and that they are going to hell if they dont, whats up with that, i dont think that there are a horrible amount of people interested in christianity so why do you try and convert everyone?

actually im using events, beliefs and etc from the known beginigs of christianity etc all the way to modern times to asses youre religion and so far it does not look overly pretty

I'm not "forcing" anyone. Is our telling what we believe so different from you telling what you believe? You just did it in your previous post. Do you see me throwing a fit, getting lawyers out, saying, "Nuh uh! Stop being prejudiced against my beliefs"? No.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:32 pm


Actaually its diffrent, christians preach where as my religion states that you dont talk about it unless asked directly so i have not mentioned more then a few descret comments on my religion, and thats the way all religions should be sense then you would not be up in each others faces trying to win religious dominance over the other(s), oh it would still happen but it would not be so severe

im pissed off at you for youre stupid, ignorant, hateful post on homosexuality, if i must say, its a perfectly normal thing and you have NO right to say wether someone can love someone of there own gender or not
im saying this becuase i have several lebian and gay friends that and im gay myself
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:22 pm


Sheagorath_The_MadGod
actually does it not say in the bible to spread youre gods word?
you go and tell evryone to worship youre god and that they are going to hell if they dont, whats up with that, i dont think that there are a horrible amount of people interested in christianity so why do you try and convert everyone?

actually im using events, beliefs and etc from the known beginigs of christianity etc all the way to modern times to asses youre religion and so far it does not look overly pretty


It also says in the Bible, "Do not throw pearls before swine, or what is holy before dogs, for they will trample it underneath."

Simply put, It is alright to spread the word of God and the message of the Gospel, but only in the right circumstances.

I will admit, there was a time where I was a little more forceful with spreading the word of God, I never condemed anyone, but sometimes I found myself talking about religion and christianity to people who didn't want to hear about it, they felt like I was forcing the belief on them and in the end it did more damage than good.

I couldn't be more than sorry for the people I've done that to, and I cannot apologise enough to them for it.

I learned the hard way that when it comes to spreading the Gospel, there is a right time and place for it. I do so Only when people come to me with questions wanting to know more about christianity, or if someone is verbally assulting and attacking me and my faith directly, when I feel I have a right to defend myself. Besides that I do my best not to force the belief on other people, for it is much easier to scare people away and turn them aetheistic or agnostic with the word of God than it is by sharing his love for us.

I try helping other Christians in how to properly approach people about religion and faith, and when exactly is the right time to do so. Even if their intentions are good, it could have a massive opposite effect and do more bad then good. Which is not what we are trying to do.

I hope this answers your question. The people who force christianity on others and judge them on a whim are wrong for doing so. If you wish to lash out at me and take your frustrations on the christian community out on me for all the wrong they have done to you, you may. For at one time I was just as guilty for wrongly preaching to others when I shouldn't have. And to all the people I have scared away and have ruined any hope they may have in being saved I regret more than anything.

Not to say that your beliefs are wrong, I will admit you may be right in your belief and I may be the one wrong. I will not try and force anything upon you, but do what I can just to give you a better understanding in a non-threatening way of how christianity and how christians are suppose to act. But if you do not, then I will politely stay quiet and not respond to any more of your posts.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:34 am


i have no fight with you sense you took this calmly and sensibly.
sometimes i let my anger take control of me and several of my posts were made during those times, the beliefs in them are mine but i would not have out them so rudley if i had been calm when i posted them
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:28 am


The Chainsaw Ninja
Being a Christian myself, I decided to make this thread here. If anyone has any insights to the Christian beliefs, or would like to compare it to other religions, be my guest. Also, I would encourage conflict here, debate is a great test of faith and sharpness of wit, but I will see to it that any personal attacks will be reported to as many mods as possible. If you can't speak with intelligence and without profanity, I will go out of my way to stop your bigotry. I don't need another newgrounds quality thread here, I assume everyone in this guild is better than that. That being said, feel free to speak your minds.

that is great I am so glad that christians can speak our mind here on gaia! We need to stick togather and help each other stay strong ya know!?

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:31 am


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Sheagorath_The_MadGod
actually does it not say in the bible to spread youre gods word?
you go and tell evryone to worship youre god and that they are going to hell if they dont, whats up with that, i dont think that there are a horrible amount of people interested in christianity so why do you try and convert everyone?

actually im using events, beliefs and etc from the known beginigs of christianity etc all the way to modern times to asses youre religion and so far it does not look overly pretty


It also says in the Bible, "Do not throw pearls before swine, or what is holy before dogs, for they will trample it underneath."

Simply put, It is alright to spread the word of God and the message of the Gospel, but only in the right circumstances.

I will admit, there was a time where I was a little more forceful with spreading the word of God, I never condemed anyone, but sometimes I found myself talking about religion and christianity to people who didn't want to hear about it, they felt like I was forcing the belief on them and in the end it did more damage than good.

I couldn't be more than sorry for the people I've done that to, and I cannot apologise enough to them for it.

I learned the hard way that when it comes to spreading the Gospel, there is a right time and place for it. I do so Only when people come to me with questions wanting to know more about christianity, or if someone is verbally assulting and attacking me and my faith directly, when I feel I have a right to defend myself. Besides that I do my best not to force the belief on other people, for it is much easier to scare people away and turn them aetheistic or agnostic with the word of God than it is by sharing his love for us.

I try helping other Christians in how to properly approach people about religion and faith, and when exactly is the right time to do so. Even if their intentions are good, it could have a massive opposite effect and do more bad then good. Which is not what we are trying to do.

I hope this answers your question. The people who force christianity on others and judge them on a whim are wrong for doing so. If you wish to lash out at me and take your frustrations on the christian community out on me for all the wrong they have done to you, you may. For at one time I was just as guilty for wrongly preaching to others when I shouldn't have. And to all the people I have scared away and have ruined any hope they may have in being saved I regret more than anything.

Not to say that your beliefs are wrong, I will admit you may be right in your belief and I may be the one wrong. I will not try and force anything upon you, but do what I can just to give you a better understanding in a non-threatening way of how christianity and how christians are suppose to act. But if you do not, then I will politely stay quiet and not respond to any more of your posts.

True and also we do not say you will go to hell if you do not worship him.
we say if you do not accept Jesus as your savior then the bible says so.
We do not say we say so we just say th bible does.
For the bible also says we are not to judge for we will be judge likewise for that is the Lord our God's job.
And btw God is spelled ith a captial G.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:20 am


Neco Robin
I have two homosexual friends and both of them are do not seem to be following in the light of God all the much. I'm hopping to change that or have some friends help them change. I believe homosexuals actually have more of a right to be together then an man and women do. They will understand each other more and if a straight couple that might not even like each other after a time because they can not relate enough to each other can be together, or even if they do love each other... Why can't a gay couple that loves each other be happy together?... I believe everyone has a right to, whether it says that in the bible or not, God does not care if someone is homosexual, it doesn't matter because they can still be accepted by God..
Homosexuals don't have any more of a right to be together than straight couples nor do they have better relationships. That's your opinion and you really shouldn't make such a biased judgment call.
My best friend decided she was gay in college and moved away to live in a state where she thought people would be more accepting of her. She's the daughter of a preacher so I think she was more afraid of her parents' disapproval than anything else because we have a large gay community right here.
Anyhow, she's went through more abusive relationships than anyone I know. She's been beaten up, cheated on, abandoned, and now she has to get a divorce from the woman she married because the girl flaked on her in her time of need and ran away with another woman.
The divorce rate is like 50% whether you're gay or straight and the chance of couples staying together is slim no matter what your sexual preference. I'm about equality here so I'm giving homosexual couples the same prospect I'd give straight ones.
The truth is, lust is the biggest driver of relationships now-a-days. True love is only happening in 50% of marriages. And if you counted all the people who hooked up without getting married then love occurs in a very small percentage of the population.
The greatest gift God gave us was love. His love for us is what saved us. His love allows forgiveness of all our transgressions no matter how huge and unforgivable they seem to us. If we would learn to love like God (through Jesus) taught us to and to hate the sin inside us we would not be experiencing this confusion about love and relationships.
My best friend moved back here 3 years ago when her marriage went south. I never tried to change who she thought she was. I only supported her through her depression. Then she met a guy and now they're talking about marriage. I've never seen her this happy. She didn't change from gay to straight because someone forced her to, but because she finally experienced real love.
It's not by accident that God created man and then woman. He did it so that there would be balance. The parts match, reproduction happens, and hormones are in harmony (testosterone & estrogen). For every couple there need to be a hunter and a gatherer, a protector and a nurturer. Gay couples try to mimic this. You see it in lesbians with fem & butch. Gay couples have bottoms & tops. They try to simulate what is more natural. Not every couple is like that, but it's a common occurrence.
No matter what modern society chooses to believe, homosexuality has been around since the dawn of man. It's in the Bible and it's prominent throughout history (look at your Greek Olympians). Religion isn't going to make it go away. I'm a Christian and I don't believe homosexuality is right but that doesn't mean I can hate people for it.
I'm super old school and believe in loving all of my neighbors and leading them to the love of Christ. Jesus went to the homes of people who were shunned by society (prostitutes, publicans, & pharisees) and spoke with them about the love of God. Why shouldn't I do the same? Maybe some of them will finally be bale to be happy.
PS - Witnessing to someone doesn't mean you're trying to convert them. It means you are happy and are trying to spread the good news about what changed your life for the better. If you were given a million dollars for free wouldn't you want to go spread the good news to all your friends so they could get the same money? It works the same way only with soul winning you're concern goes much deeper than just an immediate need. You want everyone to know how much they are loved by God and for them to escape an awful eternity in Hell. It's the love for lost souls that drives a person to share their beliefs.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:26 am


Abyssia Holland
Okay, this is in response to the comments about homosexuality. If God had truly intended for it to be okay to love someone of the same gender, then why did he create both men and women instead of just men orwomen? Why complicate things?

There. I said it. I am not going to argue about this any more as I am not someone who argues just for the sake of arguing. No one's changing my mind, and I am not going to lose my sanity in a prolonged battle of text.

Oh, and by the way, here's a part from the Bible that evidently does have something to say on the issue.

Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.
LEVITICUS 18:22

Let me start by saying I am a Christian and yes the Bible does state that homosexuality is a sin. It also says that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Why are our sins forgiveable but some people seem to think that homosexuals are all doomed to hell? If they accept Christ, He will forgive their sins and they will go to the same Heaven that all other forgiven sinners go.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:34 am


Sheagorath_The_MadGod
Actaually its diffrent, christians preach where as my religion states that you dont talk about it unless asked directly so i have not mentioned more then a few descret comments on my religion, and thats the way all religions should be sense then you would not be up in each others faces trying to win religious dominance over the other(s), oh it would still happen but it would not be so severe

im pissed off at you for youre stupid, ignorant, hateful post on homosexuality, if i must say, its a perfectly normal thing and you have NO right to say wether someone can love someone of there own gender or not
im saying this becuase i have several lebian and gay friends that and im gay myself
You know the children's song that says "This Little Light of Mine, I'm Gonna Let It Shine"? Well, it comes from the Bible. We're not supposed to hide the truth of our beliefs from the world. We're to spread the light of God wherever we go.
I'd be ashamed to witness to My friend on their death bed and have them question why I never told them I was a Christian. What kind of an example would I be?
To hide my belief and not live as a shining example of what I'm supposed to embody is just as bad as someone going around saying they're a Christian when they're really not.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:37 am


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Abyssia Holland
Okay, this is in response to the comments about homosexuality. If God had truly intended for it to be okay to love someone of the same gender, then why did he create both men and women instead of just men orwomen? Why complicate things?

There. I said it. I am not going to argue about this any more as I am not someone who argues just for the sake of arguing. No one's changing my mind, and I am not going to lose my sanity in a prolonged battle of text.

Oh, and by the way, here's a part from the Bible that evidently does have something to say on the issue.

Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin.
LEVITICUS 18:22

Let me start by saying I am a Christian and yes the Bible does state that homosexuality is a sin. It also says that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Why are our sins forgiveable but some people seem to think that homosexuals are all doomed to hell? If they accept Christ, He will forgive their sins and they will go to the same Heaven that all other forgiven sinners go.

You're both right. We're all sinners and one of the sins is homosexuality. But by accepting Christ a sinner can enter the kingdom of Heaven. However, once you're saved you undergo a transformation inside so wouldn't you want to leave your sinful past behind?
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