PhantomoftheFox
Oh, and Alexis... Since you know I just love to argue canon with you...
Where does it say that in any version? They just say that he's skeletally thin, not why. I've never heard of any type of physical deformity that makes you stay really skinny. I think you're crossing your mental image of Erik with the Erik in the book.
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It is part of his deformity that he is extremely thin, not just because he's anorexic.
Where does it say that in any version? They just say that he's skeletally thin, not why. I've never heard of any type of physical deformity that makes you stay really skinny. I think you're crossing your mental image of Erik with the Erik in the book.
Maybe. But it doesn't say anywhere that it isn't a deformity that makes him so thin. I read it into the book, true, but I'm also basing my assumption on the fact that his facial deformity was something that made his head look like a skull, so I guessed that it was affecting his body the same way, too. Also, you must remember that we're not just using real-life logic here. For the most part, yes, we are, but you have to remember that Leroux made his own stuff up as well. Supernatural things that don't occur in real life. The best example? The rat-catcher and his head of fire. That took things way out of the realm of normalcy, so I assume that Leroux wasn't striving to make the story as based in reality as possible. He obviously added certain non realistic things for effect, and I took Erik's skeletal frame to be one of them. I'm guessing as much as you are about why Erik was so thin.
PhantomoftheFox
Alexis of Shadow]And why the hell is he chopping wood? He's supposed to be a musician, not a logger for god's sake. You're complaining about us not relying on the facts, but nowhere does it ever say that Erik ever chopped wood. (snipped) Cannon Erik wouldn't be chopping wood. He just wouldn't. [/quote]
It doesn't say that he [i]didn't [/i]chop wood either. He ran away from home at a young age and traveled on his own for a large part of his life. That would have been in the early-mid part of the 19th century, [i]well [/i]before electricity became widely available. If you wanted food, heat, or not to get eaten by random wild animals while traveling the countryside you would need a fire. How does one make a fire? Wood. Can Erik make neatly chopped piles of wood fall out of the sky? Probably not. Therefore, he would have to at least occasionally chop wood to survive. And nothing in his character in Leroux gives one the impression that Erik would be afraid of a bit of necessary physical labor, so what makes you say he 'just wouldn't' chop wood? Why? Because it isn't glamorous? Methinks you're crossing interpretations again.[/quote]
I never thought of Erik as camping out in the wilderness like that. If he did stop to rest, I imagined he would just lie wherever he stopped, sleep there, and move on. He seemed to have a parastic way of living. He always took advantage of what other people had. Fine, maybe I am making assumptions about Erik and the situations he was in, but I do have reasons for them. And even if he did chop wood, I doubt he'd be doing so in Persia because he lived off the royal family (yes, yes, Leroux never [i]said[/i] he lived off the royal family, there goes another assumption), and besides, the key word, as you said, was [i]occasionally[/i]. Hardly enough to make an extremely skeletal man suddenly buff and tan like Gerik. Somehow I cannot imagine Erik chopping wood. It's not that it "isn't glamorous" since a lot of things he does aren't glamorous (living in the damp, slimy, moldy and generally dirty cellars of the Opera house for one thing. Not exactly a fairyland palace down there, now is it?) but he seems like someone who would rather steal someone else's food and use their fire as heat instead of building his own campsite.
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It doesn't say that he [i]didn't [/i]chop wood either. He ran away from home at a young age and traveled on his own for a large part of his life. That would have been in the early-mid part of the 19th century, [i]well [/i]before electricity became widely available. If you wanted food, heat, or not to get eaten by random wild animals while traveling the countryside you would need a fire. How does one make a fire? Wood. Can Erik make neatly chopped piles of wood fall out of the sky? Probably not. Therefore, he would have to at least occasionally chop wood to survive. And nothing in his character in Leroux gives one the impression that Erik would be afraid of a bit of necessary physical labor, so what makes you say he 'just wouldn't' chop wood? Why? Because it isn't glamorous? Methinks you're crossing interpretations again.[/quote]
I never thought of Erik as camping out in the wilderness like that. If he did stop to rest, I imagined he would just lie wherever he stopped, sleep there, and move on. He seemed to have a parastic way of living. He always took advantage of what other people had. Fine, maybe I am making assumptions about Erik and the situations he was in, but I do have reasons for them. And even if he did chop wood, I doubt he'd be doing so in Persia because he lived off the royal family (yes, yes, Leroux never [i]said[/i] he lived off the royal family, there goes another assumption), and besides, the key word, as you said, was [i]occasionally[/i]. Hardly enough to make an extremely skeletal man suddenly buff and tan like Gerik. Somehow I cannot imagine Erik chopping wood. It's not that it "isn't glamorous" since a lot of things he does aren't glamorous (living in the damp, slimy, moldy and generally dirty cellars of the Opera house for one thing. Not exactly a fairyland palace down there, now is it?) but he seems like someone who would rather steal someone else's food and use their fire as heat instead of building his own campsite.
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(P.S. For my money, it's Charles Dance Erik that pwns all.)
Trust you to favor the guy who's face is of complete questionable existance.
But yeah. Arguing is grand.
And everyone knows I'm right, even if they don't like to admit it. *Shifty eyes*