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Formerly called the NCS, this is a place for communists and socialists to talk about communism and socialism. 

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Le Pere Duchesne
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Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:29 am


Lady Merewyn
Comrade Kotka
*watches thread slowly degenerate*

Actually, no, it didn't even start off sensible. :0
Being sensible is boring... razz

Exciting political argument threads are boring? wha-?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:24 am


I've got a question! Why the ******** did Stalin get power in the USSR in the first place?

Raziel Hotokashi


Gracchvs
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:06 am


Raziel Hotokashi
I've got a question! Why the ******** did Stalin get power in the USSR in the first place?

Long story is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.
In short, because of a bunch of problems in the economy and the failure of the revolution to spread, the bureaucracy was able to solidify into a body with its own political consciousness. It was able to slowly take away political authority and independence from the soviets.

As time went on, those who best expressed the needs and political appetites of the bureaucracy were favoured, and thus stalin came to be at the top.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:26 am


Louis-Auguste Robespierre
Um.. What question? I thought I answered all her serious ones...
The non serious one, it was funny. I'm easily ammussed though.

Lord Comrade-X


Gracchvs
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:40 am


Lord Comrade-X
Louis-Auguste Robespierre
Um.. What question? I thought I answered all her serious ones...
The non serious one, it was funny. I'm easily ammussed though.
Ah, well, I answered it.

*sigh*

How, oh, how will the newbies ever figure out where these jokes came from...
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:33 am


Lady Merewyn
Steven Hawkings
Lady Merewyn
Steven Hawkings
Lady Merewyn
Gracchvs, you're still ignoring my earlier question. *glares*

Did you have an orgy with Marat and Hello Kitty and apparently Mike in a bathtub and not invite me????????
A furry orgy? What has Mike done to you?
Haha, wouldn't you like to know... blaugh
Whips and chains?
Oh, totally...
Go to the certain clubs with your freinds in DC, take Mike with you.

UF6


UF6

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:37 am


Louis-Auguste Robespierre
Lady Merewyn
Comrade Kotka
*watches thread slowly degenerate*

Actually, no, it didn't even start off sensible. :0
Being sensible is boring... razz

Exciting political argument threads are boring? wha-?
Ones with Mary involved or not involved?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:51 pm


Raziel Hotokashi
I've got a question! Why the ******** did Stalin get power in the USSR in the first place?


Whats the problem with Stalin? You should ask Why the ******** did Khrushchev get into power?

At least the party booted him out later on..c.c

SoViEtTaNkT34
Crew


SoViEtTaNkT34
Crew

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:51 pm


Steven Hawkings
Louis-Auguste Robespierre
Lady Merewyn
Comrade Kotka
*watches thread slowly degenerate*

Actually, no, it didn't even start off sensible. :0
Being sensible is boring... razz

Exciting political argument threads are boring? wha-?
Ones with Mary involved or not involved?


Mary gets drunk too much now to care.. she needs more opium to fill her life xp
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:53 pm


I have a Question:

Why would Soviets and not a centralized gov be more effective in combating Anarchy of social production?

SoViEtTaNkT34
Crew


Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:36 pm


SoViEtTaNkT34
I have a Question:

Why would Soviets and not a centralized gov be more effective in combating Anarchy of social production?

Soviets are by definition centralised:

The workers in a factory/other worksite elect representatives to the factory soviet.
The factory soviet elects representatives to the local soviet.
The local soviet elects representatives to the regional/state/provincial soviets.
The regional soviets elect representatives to the national soviet.
The national soviet elects representatives to the international soviet.

Each soviet can recall and of its members, even if they are a delegate to a higher body, so that someone in the national soviet can be recalled by the factory soviet.

At the same time, decisions are made from top down with the highest soviet making the economic plan for the time period (traditionally 5 years), and portioning out responsibilities to the lower soviets, which each portion those responsibilities to lower soviets.

An example:
The South Pacific Soviet makes a plan for the next five years. Australia is given the task, among other things, of industriallising Java. Australia's industry is concentrated on the east coast, so the Austrlian Soviet gives instructions to the New South Wales Soviet to mine iron to make into steel, and coal to send to Java. The Victoria Soviet is given instructions to make such-and-such amount of steel out of the iron provided by NSW.

The NSW Soviet tells each of its mining regions to produce a bunch of coal/steel in accordance with abundance and labour, The regions then tell each of the Mine Soviets to get to work: we need *tonnes of iron by march, * by november...

That is centralised, no?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:41 pm


Here's a question. Do you agree with the signing of Brest Litovsk?


Additional Questions:

1) Why did you change your name back to Failspierre?

2) Why are you are tool Gracchvs?

Director Mann


Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:32 pm


Comrade Mann
Here's a question. Do you agree with the signing of Brest Litovsk?

I feel that it was an unfortunate but necessary retreat.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:42 pm


What's more important, industrializing all 3rd world and second world countries, or sending people into space to make a lunar base and asteroid mines?

Raziel Hotokashi


Le Pere Duchesne
Captain

Beloved Prophet

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:03 pm


Raziel Hotokashi
What's more important, industrializing all 3rd world and second world countries, or sending people into space to make a lunar base and asteroid mines?
It depends on the concrete situation, though I would assume it is likely that one would find advancing the economic base would take precedence over extraterrestrial expansion.

Though for some reason I suspect that wasn't a serious question... stare

If there are going to be silly questions, can they at least be REALLY silly...
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