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 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:53 pm
Digital Malevolence MegaTherion777 ScorchMaster16 MegaTherion777 ScorchMaster16 Battousai Akuma My opinion goes with what Warrior said. As long as it does demean my religion I am good with it. Although I do not like lyrics with a lot of sexual content in it. I must say I agree with you in terms of demeaning religion in music, especially metal. It really gets me angry when I see Deicide. I don't think religion should be put down like that. It's the people in it that make it look so bad. But other than that, I don't really care too much for the lyrics. To be honest, I got into metal because of so many guitar solos I heard! I love guitar solos or good instrumentation in general, since I'm a musician myself. Can I be honest with you guys for a minute again? When I joined this forum, I thought people would like hate me for my views on music that's Anti-Religion. I was kinda afraid to even say anything about it. So I must thank you guys for not like ridiculing me of my faith as I don't push my faith down people's throats. 1) you can always be honest with us here 2) even the non-religious people around here seem to be of the opinion that no one should force their beliefs on anyone else, which is a good belief to have. we may get involved in friendly debates from time to time, but we aren't trying to force our beliefs on anyone. 3) i had a third thing to say but i forgot what it was. i have chosen to represent my third point anyway by making it known that i had one lol I completely agree with the third thing Mega had to say. 3nodding glad to hear it 3nodding
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:57 pm
MegaTherion777 Digital Malevolence MegaTherion777 ScorchMaster16 Can I be honest with you guys for a minute again? When I joined this forum, I thought people would like hate me for my views on music that's Anti-Religion. I was kinda afraid to even say anything about it. So I must thank you guys for not like ridiculing me of my faith as I don't push my faith down people's throats. 1) you can always be honest with us here 2) even the non-religious people around here seem to be of the opinion that no one should force their beliefs on anyone else, which is a good belief to have. we may get involved in friendly debates from time to time, but we aren't trying to force our beliefs on anyone. 3) i had a third thing to say but i forgot what it was. i have chosen to represent my third point anyway by making it known that i had one lol I completely agree with the third thing Mega had to say. 3nodding glad to hear it 3nodding Thanks that makes me feel a lot better! biggrin
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:15 pm
Personally, I've got no problem with anti-religious lyrics. Conversely, I don't like pro-Satanic lyrics any more than I do pro-Christian, as both fall under the category of religious lyrics. Yes, I am an atheist. And anti-religious lyrics can get their point across without being blatantly hostile, case in point. But as Mega said, I'm not a militant atheist insofar as organized religion doesn't interfere with my life.
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Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:34 pm
ashlander_alpha Personally, I've got no problem with anti-religious lyrics. Conversely, I don't like pro-Satanic lyrics any more than I do pro-Christian, as both fall under the category of religious lyrics. Yes, I am an atheist. And anti-religious lyrics can get their point across without being blatantly hostile, case in point. But as Mega said, I'm not a militant atheist insofar as organized religion doesn't interfere with my life. Anti-religious is the same as pro-Christian or pro-occult lyrics. They all pick a belief system to follow. Whether one is pro this or con that, doesn't change anything.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:22 pm
My Hollow Anti-religious is the same as pro-Christian or pro-occult lyrics. They all pick a belief system to follow. Whether one is pro this or con that, doesn't change anything.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:36 pm
ashlander_alpha My Hollow Anti-religious is the same as pro-Christian or pro-occult lyrics. They all pick a belief system to follow. Whether one is pro this or con that, doesn't change anything. Dear God who we do not believe in, let us not pray to you today for you do not exist. xp
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Warrior of Metal Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:32 pm
Warrior of Metal ashlander_alpha My Hollow Anti-religious is the same as pro-Christian or pro-occult lyrics. They all pick a belief system to follow. Whether one is pro this or con that, doesn't change anything. Dear God who we do not believe in, let us not pray to you today for you do not exist. xp
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:05 pm
Warrior of Metal ashlander_alpha My Hollow Anti-religious is the same as pro-Christian or pro-occult lyrics. They all pick a belief system to follow. Whether one is pro this or con that, doesn't change anything. Dear God who we do not believe in, let us not pray to you today for you do not exist. xp Oh no, the Agnostics are attacking!
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:02 pm
ashlander_alpha My Hollow Anti-religious is the same as pro-Christian or pro-occult lyrics. They all pick a belief system to follow. Whether one is pro this or con that, doesn't change anything. Who says it has to have a god to be a religion?
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:24 pm
THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:
atheism is not a belief. it is a lack of belief. atheists have no belief in god. this does not mean they believe in the same things. some atheists are nihilists - they believe in nothing whatsoever. some are existentialists - they believe that we exist without purpose, and that we must find a purpose for ourselves. some are marxists and believe the church is merely a scheme to keep the poor working man oppressed. some believe in the conquering power of reason and/or science. some do not. there is no unified belief. the only unifying aspect is that they have no belief in a god. a- meaning no and -theism being the doctrine of belief in a god. atheism is not a religion or a belief or a system, but a lack thereof.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:14 pm
ashlander_alpha My Hollow Anti-religious is the same as pro-Christian or pro-occult lyrics. They all pick a belief system to follow. Whether one is pro this or con that, doesn't change anything. Of course Atheism is not a religion. XDDDDDD It's a worldview, the point I was making is that you say that organized religion doesn't interfer with your life but you enjoy anti-religious lyrics. Unless I am missing something, that seems to me like an oxymoron. Explain because I think I am missing something. Oh and, I am NOT interested in ANYONE else's explaination of his post because no matter how cool you think you are, you are not Ash, and I want Ash's words and explanation only.
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:33 pm
My Hollow ashlander_alpha My Hollow Anti-religious is the same as pro-Christian or pro-occult lyrics. They all pick a belief system to follow. Whether one is pro this or con that, doesn't change anything. Of course Atheism is not a religion. XDDDDDD It's a worldview, the point I was making is that you say that organized religion doesn't interfer with your life but you enjoy anti-religious lyrics. Unless I am missing something, that seems to me like an oxymoron. Explain because I think I am missing something. Oh and, I am NOT interested in ANYONE else's explaination of his post because no matter how cool you think you are, you are not Ash, and I want Ash's words and explanation only. in case that was directed at me, i was responding to grave
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:17 am
MegaTherion777 My Hollow ashlander_alpha My Hollow Anti-religious is the same as pro-Christian or pro-occult lyrics. They all pick a belief system to follow. Whether one is pro this or con that, doesn't change anything. Of course Atheism is not a religion. XDDDDDD It's a worldview, the point I was making is that you say that organized religion doesn't interfer with your life but you enjoy anti-religious lyrics. Unless I am missing something, that seems to me like an oxymoron. Explain because I think I am missing something. Oh and, I am NOT interested in ANYONE else's explaination of his post because no matter how cool you think you are, you are not Ash, and I want Ash's words and explanation only. in case that was directed at me, i was responding to grave I meant I don't want anyone else's answer to my question.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:22 am
My Hollow MegaTherion777 My Hollow ashlander_alpha My Hollow Anti-religious is the same as pro-Christian or pro-occult lyrics. They all pick a belief system to follow. Whether one is pro this or con that, doesn't change anything. Of course Atheism is not a religion. XDDDDDD It's a worldview, the point I was making is that you say that organized religion doesn't interfer with your life but you enjoy anti-religious lyrics. Unless I am missing something, that seems to me like an oxymoron. Explain because I think I am missing something. Oh and, I am NOT interested in ANYONE else's explaination of his post because no matter how cool you think you are, you are not Ash, and I want Ash's words and explanation only. in case that was directed at me, i was responding to grave I meant I don't want anyone else's answer to my question. kk, just making it clear
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:47 pm
My Hollow Of course Atheism is not a religion. XDDDDDD It's a worldview, the point I was making is that you say that organized religion doesn't interfer with your life but you enjoy anti-religious lyrics. Unless I am missing something, that seems to me like an oxymoron. Explain because I think I am missing something. Oh and, I am NOT interested in ANYONE else's explaination of his post because no matter how cool you think you are, you are not Ash, and I want Ash's words and explanation only.
Say there's this neighborhood with a record store and a Christian church nearby. Now, say this record store carries music of an anti-religious nature, some of it anti-Christian. Now, I don't have any issue with the members of the church being offended by the music and boycotting the store. I understand where they're coming from. Now, if the church makes a move to try and force the store to not carry the music anymore, or worse yet, shut the store down completely, that's where the line in the sand is drawn.
What I think you're asking is that by sympathizing with anti-religious lyrics, am I not making it an issue? The answer is that by interfere, I mean in the second way as explained in the above example. So long as organized religion lets me live how I want, I've no issue with it. That's what I'm trying to express in the example. Legalistically, thoughts and opinions aren't wrong, only actions are.
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