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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:44 pm


i just learned something and it was not even directed at me. YAY ME dramallama cheese_whine
PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:00 am


Nephilim Blade
Ah. I think darkling could explain the whole hardstyle/ softstyle meanings better than i could.

Basically a style that focuses on forms, defensive movements, routines but only occasional combat or sparring in its practice is considered a "soft" style. they tend to be primarily focused on defense and using as little force possible to accomplish its goals in combat, but not to be confused with not having any attacks at all though so don't be confused. Hard styles , well. Pretty much the opposite, but they are facets of themselves! softstyles and hard styles both have the same aspects, just different amounts of each. Hardstyles for example tend to be straight and to the point. "I'm going to injure him until he cannot continue or cannot harm me." ted to have a lot of sparring or combat. still a lot of conditioning. a lot more offensive then many martial arts. A good example is the contrast that you made! In hard styles its not necessarily a bad thing to feel pain.


Hope that helps!

A lot of karate tends to be considered "soft style" depending on the instructor.

If you are talking about kaju kembo (spelling?) or kyokushin karate then these are very much considered to be hard styles. anyone who knows these arts can tell you why xd


Well then im not sure. It focuses on defense, but has sparring, combat, and training in pairs as pretty much a staple. It is focused on using as little force as possible to cause a big effect. It focuses not on injuring them until they can no longer fight, but on disabling them until they lose the will to fight or are knocked out (preferably cleanly, but of course that probably wouldnt happen more often than not in a real fight). It doesnt have a lot of conditioning. So i guess its about 80% soft?

I'm not talking about kaju kembo or kyokushin, im talking about shorinji kempo, its probably quite different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorinji_Kempo

http://www.shorinjikempo.or.jp/wsko/

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:21 pm


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Nephilim Blade
Ah. I think darkling could explain the whole hardstyle/ softstyle meanings better than i could.

Basically a style that focuses on forms, defensive movements, routines but only occasional combat or sparring in its practice is considered a "soft" style. they tend to be primarily focused on defense and using as little force possible to accomplish its goals in combat, but not to be confused with not having any attacks at all though so don't be confused. Hard styles , well. Pretty much the opposite, but they are facets of themselves! softstyles and hard styles both have the same aspects, just different amounts of each. Hardstyles for example tend to be straight and to the point. "I'm going to injure him until he cannot continue or cannot harm me." ted to have a lot of sparring or combat. still a lot of conditioning. a lot more offensive then many martial arts. A good example is the contrast that you made! In hard styles its not necessarily a bad thing to feel pain.


Hope that helps!

A lot of karate tends to be considered "soft style" depending on the instructor.

If you are talking about kaju kembo (spelling?) or kyokushin karate then these are very much considered to be hard styles. anyone who knows these arts can tell you why xd


Well then im not sure. It focuses on defense, but has sparring, combat, and training in pairs as pretty much a staple. It is focused on using as little force as possible to cause a big effect. It focuses not on injuring them until they can no longer fight, but on disabling them until they lose the will to fight or are knocked out (preferably cleanly, but of course that probably wouldnt happen more often than not in a real fight). It doesnt have a lot of conditioning. So i guess its about 80% soft?

I'm not talking about kaju kembo or kyokushin, im talking about shorinji kempo, its probably quite different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorinji_Kempo

http://www.shorinjikempo.or.jp/wsko/


I was just using those styles as a reference to what I was talking about.

But yes I'd say you are currently involved more in soft styles. When I was still attending my old dojo we were primarily a soft style, but I tend to trade off over the years. Mostly I do what is more convenient because im broke sweatdrop

Right now I try to keep up on my boxing routines and thai boxing for conditioning purposes because im not doing much else.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:49 pm


oh sorry, i thought u thought shorinji had a different name or something. Yeah its definately more soft than hard, but i suppose theres no art out there that is truely one or the other.

Being broke sucks

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:26 pm


Its true. But it makes it easy to reference the type of training by giving it a "soft or hard" label.

And yes it does. I'm actually able to afford equipment. but overall I'm also broke when it comes to the amount of time I have to dedicate to attending a class or clinic.

The last Instructor to train with me gives me free instruction. but I feel bad taking advantage of that kind of opportunity. especially when he does not do that well with the school. Its kind of sad because his instruction is world class.

that and the school isn't exactly near by anymore since Ive moved to the other side of town
PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:48 am


I think you got that one pretty much covered mate. The only thing I could add is, most soft styles use the phrase "Use the attackers energy against them." Whereas a hard style is the opposite.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:18 pm


DarklingGlory
I think you got that one pretty much covered mate. The only thing I could add is, most soft styles use the phrase "Use the attackers energy against them." Whereas a hard style is the opposite.


then shorinji is definately more a soft style 3nodding
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