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i just want to thank you all for your input
and to give a praise report, I've been praying about turning away from it, and I turned away from it completely 3 weeks ago- I feel awesome!
it was just the feeling afterwards that I hated about it. but i feel great.
I'm aware that I may (hopefully not) but for now i'm going well...

Thanks again guys
God Bless You All

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Or pastaflamation. YAY for long made up words!!!!!

Doomificationishnessocity is one that me and my friend made up.
Doom-i-fication-ish-ness-ocity.

There was a joke?

Well I am a bible college student and in our Christian Thought class we had a large discussion on this and many other hot botton topics. The class decided that if you can do it without lust than by all means go ahead.

Personally, I would like to add this, the m word as some of you have called it, has probably been one of the only things that has kept me a virgin. I am 21 years old and I just found the girl of my dreams, I am proposing soon and marrying about next year. I dont see how masterbating is wrong if it is the thing stopping you from having sex. The bible is not clear on this at all. Technically if you really notice it has poligamy, and other such sex lives that are not good in it either. I am not saying ok marry a bunch of women and do them all, I am just saying that I think that it is ok if you can control your lust.

http://www.jackinworld.com/library/articles/onan.html

has addresses the one place in the bible that Masturbation is attributed to talked about, but then goes on to mention how it is not actually about it.
The story of Onan.

Now as I recall much of the problems are if one commits lust in ones heart.
Ergo, one may surmise that, for it to be in ones heart, it would have to be something that one would do if given the opportunity in real life.
Ergo, the masturbation may be okay, as long as it concerns fantasy that one would not in reality do if given the opportunity in real life.

I think it's not okay. I have heard from people have had problems with Masterbation and it can really wreck marriages. As for the virgin part, your lucky since people who masturbate are twice as likely to have sex before marriage. How Masturbation wrecks marriage? Well when people masturbate (especially guys) they most of the time think of a sexual image. Most guys who masturbate and think marriage is a solution is as wrong as people who marry to get away from problems at home. Girls don't like sex as often as guys and that is a fact. Guy receieve intimacy before or during sexual intercourse. Girls receive it through touching, sharing, hugging, and communicating deeply. Don't believe me? Ask a girl yourself and find the answer. Tyring to say you can control your sex drive through masturbation is like saying I can stop and 18-wheeler with a two hands. Not going to happend. The habit stays and it will stay until you get out of it. I'm in a struggle myself to get out of it because I feel so dirty after doing it. Some say they can masturbate without thinking dirty thoughts but the trick with that is not thinking lustful thoughts. It's best just to go cold turkey. The bible doesn't say anything about masturbation but it does say that we should walk in the steps of Jesus himself and be more like him. We can't do that if were in our solitude place jacking off and not turning our attention to the Almighty King of Kings, Lord of Lords. Here's some bible verses that explain we should be living sexual pure. (Sorry if I repeat some already said)

But I[Jesus] tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Matthew 5:28

For from within, out of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arroganace, and folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man "unclean." Mark 7:21-23

So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light. Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. Romans 13:12-13

You are to abstain from...sexual immorality Acts 15:29

The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord 1Corinthinans 6:13

Amen.

Masturbation can wreck marriages, but not because of the act itself. It's usually what leads to the masturbation, and how one's spouse interprets it. Obviously, it's a release for sexual frustration. I can imagine anyone would feel a little offended if they caught their partner masturbating, as it could easily be misunderstood as they are not very sexually satisfying. Not only that, but where there is masturbation, there is often (not always) pornography and, like you said, lustful thoughts. If I caught my husband looking at porn I'd be pretty upset that he was lusting after other women instead of looking only at me, and I'd feel insulted, offended, and a little hurt that he was turning to other sources to feel fulfilled in that way.

The only reason the statistics show that virgins who masturbate are more likely to have sex before marriage is not because masturbation causes premarital sex, but because people who masturbate are more likely to see no problem with casual sexual experiences or non-committal sexual experiences (and I don't mean just one-night stands necessarily). It has to do with the overall values of the person involved, not with the act itself.



Honestly, if anyone is just looking for a little action, they aren't going to waste their time going through the motions of courting and marrying someone. They'll just go look for someone who is just as physically attractive to them who is willing to go to bed without a wedding ring. I don't think anyone sees marriage as a solution to sexual frustration. And let me tell you, girls can be just as sexually aggressive as guys, can enjoy it more, can even be the initiators (gasp!). Generally, guys are more sexually aggressive, but it doesn't mean they like sex more than girls. And guys can also be touchy-feely like girls when it comes to foreplay and sexual intimacy. You're basing all of your ideas on stereotypes- be very wary about that.



While it can be difficult, I wouldn't go so far as to agree with your little hyperbole there. It can actually perpetuate one's drive, but it might be easier to control than you think.