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if the girls are saying the same thing as you you make more sence. the way they give the mesage says it differntly.

*looks back at gundam series* if you consider newtype pwoers and telepathy magic then a lot of the mech series had magic.
gundam wing did not.
gundam did
8th ms did not (placed in the same world as gundam)
chars revenge did
gundams seed did (this was actualy differn't the "magic" as you called it would be the geneticly altered people who ahve enhanced atributes and inteligence as well at intense times they enter berserk which allows them to use there mechs at masive speeds and strenghts, bieng able to cause mecha after images in space and then block a blow and the instantly counter by jumping behind and sliceing threw there side.)
and the list can go on on series. ive only seen a few and most take place in the same world as mobile suit gundam and actualy hapen in a time line.

or mechs with bits or funnels. the funnels/bits could only be used by a pilot with newtype or telepathic powers.

and this hole magic imunity thing sound like a bunch of garbage. by what ive seen most people will probibly interpet it as that they can basicly god mode against people with any types of powers if they just claim my char is imune to magic. meanings as telepathy is not realy magic a telepathic force blast whon't hurt them, a chi ball whont, turt them. and apoc meteor taht strikes them whont hurt them.
you need to break things into sections. like:
body energy
life energy
mind energy
nature/element/religion energy

because as i see this most people who will join the government as see this magic imunity thing will just claim total magic imunity.

this looks more like a shield thats nothing but a big brass ring.

and you could please put up as your first pow or something that explains the differnce between your 2 vote options?

Gold: Magic immune people can't use magic at all. Even magical healing doesn't help.

Even so, it's of limited use; If Person A uses magic to fling a truck at person B, all the magic immunity in the world won't stop the truck from splattering B like a tub of Jell-O. Besides, what's to stop somebody now from stating they are magic immune?

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Hikaru: I fail to see how it's unfair for gundam pilots to be unable to use magic. Isn't that like complaining that you're not allowed to strap a laser sight to a nuclear missile? Besides, I don't think either of us want to see another super-sayjin gundam with demon blood that can fire a magic enhanced twin buster - I say another because I have seen them before on several occasions.

You also forget that where a person is from is determined by their backstory. The choices you make when you roll-up say what you can do.

i agree with hikaru.

my own char has a background story as to why he has his telepathy powers. (if you want i can go an update it with what powers i have exactly so you will stop proclaiming about the read minds stuff.)

Well, then you're going to have to live with "I use this ability!" "No magic works. It backfires and you die" "It's not magic!" "I say it is, so you're dead", followed by three pages of mindless blather.

If you actually thought about this for three seconds with a clear head, you'd realize it doesn't restrict you at all. It just saves time that would otherwise be spent on pointless arguments with no possible resolution.

Besides, it makes sense for somebody who's just first come in contact with magic to be utterly useless when it comes to weilding it, much the same way that I don't expect a caveman to do much good in a space shuttle.

Im still not sure how this theory restricts anyone who understands it but let me make one thing VERY clear since I obviously didnt say it slow enough by stating it as my first friggen stement....

THIS THEORY CHANGES NOTHING...

Did you get that? did your "this prevent characters from doing ANYTHING" mirrorshades slip down again? or perhaps the aformentioned statement is too vague...

This is a theory... it dosent CHANGE, LIMIT, RESTRICT, INTERFERE, KILL, BAN, OR H4X0R5 ANYTHING! Just as if we change the name of gravity to Fluggleorb its still friggen gravity! Ive said this 8 times already and obviously It may have gotten lost in my helpful nature to try and give a bit of clarity, but now I'll cut out a few possible interuptions.

Wether or not the theory of evolution is correct or not the world still turns, and life continues, hell if we accepted the theory that president Bush went back in time and took a s**t in the primordial ooze would it change the fact we are still here today as humans? NO!

Magic is not changed, our perception of it is... (fifth time ive said that) this theory does not go even close to as far as stopping, restricting, etc anyone from haveing useing magic. That is left up to RP mechanics which is something that can be argued about later. THAT IS NOT, SHOULD NOT, AND WILL NOT BE THE POINT OF THIS DISCUSSION IN THIS THREAD..

This is nameing the origin of magic, how it flows and such, nothing is written in stone, and it dosent mean we understand all of it, thus there are just as many loopholes in this as there are loopholes in electricity. And even then all it is or can be is ONE way of perceiveing magic and how it works.

In short and I'll say this one time before deleting this whole thread in aggrevation because obviously this group cant handle such a thing as non-invassive Background fluff.

Yes Im pissed, and yes Im done... the next time I have to do this I am going to get my Clue-by-Four and physically violate someone! is that clear?!

Goodness I wonder if Newtons' brainstorming session on what to name gravity was this complicated... *rubs temples*

Tanasha for sake of clarity (because its obviously getting mixed up in all this) please do me a favor and create a new thread for dealing with game mechanics and such things to be decided on later since I know you already have a few good ideas.

Brainwaves can be detected, sure, but try interpreting those brainwaves, converting them from electrical pulses specially adapted to a certain brain to interpretable visual, audio, and (possibly) tactile memory which can be viewed by another being. It's even worse if the target's native language is something you don't know, since all humans "think" in words - but more often than not it's the words they learned first and grew up learning. Theoretically, even if it were possible to interpret brainwaves to "read" minds, you'd still have to speak the person's native language - otherwise their thoughts would be completely unintelligible to you. In practice, the only way to subvert such things is special magic.

You'd be surprised, if you were a bit original. Imagine, someone uses a spell to freeze an enemy mech's pilot for a few seconds, or use a displaced flame spell to burst an internal component in an enemy mecha - then continues fighting as normal with THEIR mech. It's true that in large-scale mecha combat a pilot who can also use magic can't do too much with magic in direct combat, but it's also true that mecha are impossibly precise machines which have to be controlled by people with split-second reflexes who know their mech's control layout by heart, and any interference of any sort would affect their performance VERY badly.

Actually, the technology works because people do not think in words; they think in abstract concepts. I do not say "Move" to my muscle, and it doesn't take magic to pick-out patterns in an EM wave.



Enchanting a railgun slug to drain energy would stop a mech cold; it doesn't take much to debillitate a fusion reaction, and it takes qquite a bit to get it going again.



Does anybody else see something wrong with somebody ripping a carrier apart with their mind?

The problem with magic is that because it's not defined there is no way to scale it.