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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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 Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:00 pm
Cabron LaSwan I don't think you really have a firm grasp on what evolution is. But I'm glad that you're admitting that you believe what you believe because it's what you'd rather believe. That's all I've been getting at this whole time. Everyone has a right to believe in whatever makes them happy, and everyone has a right to choose for themselves what that is without having it thrown into question. I'd like if we could all just agree to disagree and not try to convince each other that one set of beliefs is 'right' while the other is 'wrong' and let this thread go back to consisting of posts like Kath's. Marry me. emotion_kirakira
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:01 pm
Cabron LaSwan Wantcookie Medeus lol becoming immune to an illness doesn't mean you've transformed into another species. [/insert animorph.nostalgia.jpg] [imLETMETELLYOU]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e1/wantcookie/Ridiculous GIFs/tumblr_ltxi6i3sju1r13r3w.gif[/imgABOUTHOMESTUCK] Did you know that when you get infected by a virus, it comes away with some of your genetic code and you come away with some of its? Is it just me, or does John's arm retract into itself when he slaps Dave on the shoulder? Wait, his arm totally does get shorter. xd
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:01 pm
Wantcookie Cabron LaSwan I don't think you really have a firm grasp on what evolution is. But I'm glad that you're admitting that you believe what you believe because it's what you'd rather believe. That's all I've been getting at this whole time. Everyone has a right to believe in whatever makes them happy, and everyone has a right to choose for themselves what that is without having it thrown into question. I'd like if we could all just agree to disagree and not try to convince each other that one set of beliefs is 'right' while the other is 'wrong' and let this thread go back to consisting of posts like Kath's. Marry me. emotion_kirakira NO BACK OFF
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:01 pm
Wantcookie Marry me. emotion_kirakira Get in line behind Dul.
Have fun. :"D
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:02 pm
Evolution vs Creationism.
To debate between them is as important as the Special Olympics.
Derp might win, but Herp might win. In the end, they're still in the Special Olympics.
Evolution might win, but Creationism might win. In the end, they're still opinions.
Point is, it doesn't matter. NOW APOLOGIZE AND MAKE UP! D8< It's better to respect each other's opinions than to act like Mormons. -Flame shield-
(Edit: I don't even know why I posted. xD I just wanted to make that Mormon joke. 8D)
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:04 pm
bleu_flame Evolution vs Creationism. To debate between them is as important as the Special Olympics. Derp might win, but Herp might win. In the end, they're still in the Special Olympics. Evolution might win, but Creationism might win. In the end, they're still opinions. Point is, it doesn't matter. NOW APOLOGIZE AND MAKE UP!  < It's better to respect each other's opinions than to act like Mormons. -Flame shield- Who's acting like a mormon? Mormons don't fap. I think we all fap here. Your comparison is invalid.
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:04 pm
The Betman Medeus The Betman Well, the more loving option of a benevolent god would be to create us as we are, and then not cast us into hellfire after death. If every person deserves to be saved, why aren't we all already saved? And if evidence is what you need, shouldn't you believe in evolution too? You'll smack that down, even with all that science has done to help try and prove it, but the bible is fact? I just don't understand how one can believe in a higher power such as that when there's no real proof to it. He did. He created man in His Image, perfect and holy fashioned to Love him. But love without the option isn't truly Love. Do you really want to be a Puppet? It was Man who failed God. The consequence for running away from God, is being away from God. If you cut yourself off from the source of Life, how can you live? If you absolutely refuse to let God work in your life, How can he work in your life? Even if he did, you wouldn't believe it. No no no, Nobody deserves to be saved. That's what I just quoted. Let me try another; "23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." [Romans 3:23-24] He did offer to save us. The same way we have the ability to choose something other than Love, he Gave us the Option to be redeemed! God is not a God of Hopelessness. He offered to save you, if you believe in him, and in his sacrifice for your sake. Now if you never accept that salvation, How can you be saved? lol You never asked me about things I personally believe in. Up until now, I've simply been answering your questions. If you want personal Testimony, I have seen quite enough Evidence to be relatively sure that the logical conclusion I've come to is a pretty reasonable one. ;P Also, I have no idea with the idea of Micro-evolution. That goes on all around us! But, I find it kind of hard to believe that a Cat can evolve into a Dog if it wants to. Cats have always been born Cats, Dogs always been born Dogs, and we've seen evidence of this occurring in our own homes, witnessed it with our own eyes. Know what I mean? Micro evolution is no different from regular evolution. Evolution isn't one thing turning into a whole other thing, it's the theory that over time, slowly, we've adapted new mutations that have become the norm to help us interact and survive in our environment. A dog wouldn't turn into a cat because of evolution, they're two different species. And what do I need to be saved from? Something with no proof to its existence? What I believe in is the world around me, and the people I interact with. I don't need more than that to believe that I can do good in the world, and that I can change things in a positive manner. I wish we could all move above religion as the motivation to do things justly and kindly. I can be a good person without devoting my life to a being that isn't likely to exist, or based on a set of morals and guidelines set out by a book that was created two thousand years ago about a man that we can't be sure existed. If you've never interacted with God, how do you know what he wants for you? It's not a Moral Code designed to keep you in a box of rules that keep you in your place. You could have Glory in heaven, you could have literal Riches poured out on your doorstep, you could literally be given the power to Heal others from terrible sicknesses, you could have a personal, individual connection to the most powerful thing in, and outside of the Universe, because God offers every single one of those things to those who simply ask. It's not just about being saved. If you want, you can have everything and more, in This life AND in the next. But instead, you choose to roll around in the dirt, hoping that man will eventually drudge up the courage to become something other than what it is, expecting the world to right itself with anarchy and revolution. You settle for what meager wages you can earn, and what little happiness you can piece together from the scraps of your past. And to what end? The dust. Eventually it'll all end where it began; in the dust. And every argument you've mustered up will fade away into nothing. Every meaningful thing you've done will be forgotten. Everything will fall away to nothing, and you're the only one who has nothing to show for it, while there are those of us who've been promised Glory after death, Purpose, even after death, Power, even before death, and Life the way it was meant to be lived, even during our day of judgment. I'm not trying to attack you with words of retaliation, but I do wonder if you really understand the implications of what you're giving up if God is true, and you're wrong. sad
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:04 pm
Cabron LaSwan
Wantcookie Marry me. emotion_kirakira Get in line behind Dul.
Have fun. :"D Dul, I will give you money and bottom if you let me cut.
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:05 pm
Cabron LaSwan bleu_flame Evolution vs Creationism. To debate between them is as important as the Special Olympics. Derp might win, but Herp might win. In the end, they're still in the Special Olympics. Evolution might win, but Creationism might win. In the end, they're still opinions. Point is, it doesn't matter. NOW APOLOGIZE AND MAKE UP! < It's better to respect each other's opinions than to act like Mormons. -Flame shield- Who's acting like a mormon? Mormons don't fap. I think we all fap here. Your comparison is invalid. Mormons try hardest of any religion to promote evangelism? xD Not sure to take this seriously or not. I just wanted to make a Mormon joke. c:
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:08 pm
Medeus The Betman Medeus The Betman Well, the more loving option of a benevolent god would be to create us as we are, and then not cast us into hellfire after death. If every person deserves to be saved, why aren't we all already saved? And if evidence is what you need, shouldn't you believe in evolution too? You'll smack that down, even with all that science has done to help try and prove it, but the bible is fact? I just don't understand how one can believe in a higher power such as that when there's no real proof to it. He did. He created man in His Image, perfect and holy fashioned to Love him. But love without the option isn't truly Love. Do you really want to be a Puppet? It was Man who failed God. The consequence for running away from God, is being away from God. If you cut yourself off from the source of Life, how can you live? If you absolutely refuse to let God work in your life, How can he work in your life? Even if he did, you wouldn't believe it. No no no, Nobody deserves to be saved. That's what I just quoted. Let me try another; "23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." [Romans 3:23-24] He did offer to save us. The same way we have the ability to choose something other than Love, he Gave us the Option to be redeemed! God is not a God of Hopelessness. He offered to save you, if you believe in him, and in his sacrifice for your sake. Now if you never accept that salvation, How can you be saved? lol You never asked me about things I personally believe in. Up until now, I've simply been answering your questions. If you want personal Testimony, I have seen quite enough Evidence to be relatively sure that the logical conclusion I've come to is a pretty reasonable one. ;P Also, I have no idea with the idea of Micro-evolution. That goes on all around us! But, I find it kind of hard to believe that a Cat can evolve into a Dog if it wants to. Cats have always been born Cats, Dogs always been born Dogs, and we've seen evidence of this occurring in our own homes, witnessed it with our own eyes. Know what I mean? Micro evolution is no different from regular evolution. Evolution isn't one thing turning into a whole other thing, it's the theory that over time, slowly, we've adapted new mutations that have become the norm to help us interact and survive in our environment. A dog wouldn't turn into a cat because of evolution, they're two different species. And what do I need to be saved from? Something with no proof to its existence? What I believe in is the world around me, and the people I interact with. I don't need more than that to believe that I can do good in the world, and that I can change things in a positive manner. I wish we could all move above religion as the motivation to do things justly and kindly. I can be a good person without devoting my life to a being that isn't likely to exist, or based on a set of morals and guidelines set out by a book that was created two thousand years ago about a man that we can't be sure existed. If you've never interacted with God, how do you know what he wants for you? It's not a Moral Code designed to keep you in a box of rules that keep you in your place. You could have Glory in heaven, you could have literal Riches poured out on your doorstep, you could literally be given the power to Heal others from terrible sicknesses, you could have a personal, individual connection to the most powerful thing in, and outside of the Universe, because God offers every single one of those things to those who simply ask. It's not just about being saved. If you want, you can have everything and more, in This life AND in the next. But instead, you choose to roll around in the dirt, hoping that man will eventually drudge up the courage to become something other than what it is, expecting the world to right itself with anarchy and revolution. You settle for what meager wages you can earn, and what little happiness you can piece together from the scraps of your past. And to what end? The dust. Eventually it'll all end where it began; in the dust. And every argument you've mustered up will fade away into nothing. Every meaningful thing you've done will be forgotten. Everything will fall away to nothing, and you're the only one who has nothing to show for it, while there are those of us who've been promised Glory after death, Purpose, even after death, Power, even before death, and Life the way it was meant to be lived, even during our day of judgment. I'm not trying to attack you with words of retaliation, but I do wonder if you really understand the implications of what you're giving up if God is true, and you're wrong. sad I'm just going to skip to your end point, because I hate arguing about this kind of stuff. The implication is leaves is that even if you're right, and I'm wrong, I will have lived my life the way that I thought was righteous and kind. I do unto others as I would have them do to me, and I just wish the world was better. Perhaps your God can appreciate that.
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:09 pm
Cabron LaSwan bleu_flame Evolution vs Creationism. To debate between them is as important as the Special Olympics. Derp might win, but Herp might win. In the end, they're still in the Special Olympics. Evolution might win, but Creationism might win. In the end, they're still opinions. Point is, it doesn't matter. NOW APOLOGIZE AND MAKE UP! < It's better to respect each other's opinions than to act like Mormons. -Flame shield- Who's acting like a mormon? Mormons don't fap. I think we all fap here. Your comparison is invalid. Aaahaha, there was a call line for Rocky we used that goes like this: [Rocky is cowering and making "i'm cowering" noises under the sheets in his tank, Janet notices] 1/2 Audience A: "Hey, leave him alone! He's monsterbating!" 1/2 Audience B: "How do you know?" 1/2 Audience A: "That's the noise I make when I monsterbate!" 1/2 Audience B: "Eew!" And on the last night, I ad-libbed, "Oh, like you don't do it!" To which my partner in crime responded, "No, actually, I'm Mormon!" xd
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:09 pm
The Betman Medeus If you've never interacted with God, how do you know what he wants for you? It's not a Moral Code designed to keep you in a box of rules that keep you in your place. You could have Glory in heaven, you could have literal Riches poured out on your doorstep, you could literally be given the power to Heal others from terrible sicknesses, you could have a personal, individual connection to the most powerful thing in, and outside of the Universe, because God offers every single one of those things to those who simply ask. It's not just about being saved. If you want, you can have everything and more, in This life AND in the next. But instead, you choose to roll around in the dirt, hoping that man will eventually drudge up the courage to become something other than what it is, expecting the world to right itself with anarchy and revolution. You settle for what meager wages you can earn, and what little happiness you can piece together from the scraps of your past. And to what end? The dust. Eventually it'll all end where it began; in the dust. And every argument you've mustered up will fade away into nothing. Every meaningful thing you've done will be forgotten. Everything will fall away to nothing, and you're the only one who has nothing to show for it, while there are those of us who've been promised Glory after death, Purpose, even after death, Power, even before death, and Life the way it was meant to be lived, even during our day of judgment. I'm not trying to attack you with words of retaliation, but I do wonder if you really understand the implications of what you're giving up if God is true, and you're wrong. sad I'm just going to skip to your end point, because I hate arguing about this kind of stuff. The implication is leaves is that even if you're right, and I'm wrong, I will have lived my life the way that I thought was righteous and kind. I do unto others as I would have them do to me, and I just wish the world was better. Perhaps your God can appreciate that. I'm not the one who has to suffer the consequences in case he Can't. You're the one gambling against yourself here. ;P Especially since "Righteous" and "Kind" are extremely subjective, if you're basing your ideas of "right and wrong" on values grown from an Apes Instinct...
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:13 pm
Wantcookie Cabron LaSwan bleu_flame Evolution vs Creationism. To debate between them is as important as the Special Olympics. Derp might win, but Herp might win. In the end, they're still in the Special Olympics. Evolution might win, but Creationism might win. In the end, they're still opinions. Point is, it doesn't matter. NOW APOLOGIZE AND MAKE UP! < It's better to respect each other's opinions than to act like Mormons. -Flame shield- Who's acting like a mormon? Mormons don't fap. I think we all fap here. Your comparison is invalid. Aaahaha, there was a call line for Rocky we used that goes like this: [Rocky is cowering and making "i'm cowering" noises under the sheets in his tank, Janet notices] 1/2 Audience A: "Hey, leave him alone! He's monsterbating!" 1/2 Audience B: "How do you know?" 1/2 Audience A: "That's the noise I make when I monsterbate!" 1/2 Audience B: "Eew!" And on the last night, I ad-libbed, "Oh, like you don't do it!" To which my partner in crime responded, "No, actually, I'm Mormon!" xd I really really want to go to a Rocky show. >:I
/jelly
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:13 pm
The Betman l-Kathulu-l Oh hey stuff Everything I've been working for is probably going to go down the drain tomorrow. i am 0kay with it But s**t sucks. what =[ I can't do what's required of me in Music on my instrument. So I have to do everything that I did this semester over again next semester and be a semester behind. But that's just the applied music course, all of the other classes in my major will get to continue, but it just sucks. I'm meeting with my professor tomorrow, so I'll figure out what really happens then.
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:15 pm
Medeus The Betman Medeus If you've never interacted with God, how do you know what he wants for you? It's not a Moral Code designed to keep you in a box of rules that keep you in your place. You could have Glory in heaven, you could have literal Riches poured out on your doorstep, you could literally be given the power to Heal others from terrible sicknesses, you could have a personal, individual connection to the most powerful thing in, and outside of the Universe, because God offers every single one of those things to those who simply ask. It's not just about being saved. If you want, you can have everything and more, in This life AND in the next. But instead, you choose to roll around in the dirt, hoping that man will eventually drudge up the courage to become something other than what it is, expecting the world to right itself with anarchy and revolution. You settle for what meager wages you can earn, and what little happiness you can piece together from the scraps of your past. And to what end? The dust. Eventually it'll all end where it began; in the dust. And every argument you've mustered up will fade away into nothing. Every meaningful thing you've done will be forgotten. Everything will fall away to nothing, and you're the only one who has nothing to show for it, while there are those of us who've been promised Glory after death, Purpose, even after death, Power, even before death, and Life the way it was meant to be lived, even during our day of judgment. I'm not trying to attack you with words of retaliation, but I do wonder if you really understand the implications of what you're giving up if God is true, and you're wrong. sad I'm just going to skip to your end point, because I hate arguing about this kind of stuff. The implication is leaves is that even if you're right, and I'm wrong, I will have lived my life the way that I thought was righteous and kind. I do unto others as I would have them do to me, and I just wish the world was better. Perhaps your God can appreciate that. I'm not the one who has to suffer the consequences in case he Can't. You're the one gambling against yourself here. ;P Especially since "Righteous" and "Kind" are extremely subjective, if you're basing your ideas of "right and wrong" on values grown from an Apes Instinct... >:I Now you're insulting my values. Please drop this.
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