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 Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:34 am
TeaDidikai rmcdra What happened to "Latcho Drom" in the Pathways sub-forum? There has never been a thread in PathWays by that name. And Poe is right. LHP v. RHP is often an oversimplification. There are some common themes within the application of the titles, and there are traditions that are typically ascribed to one or another, but in studying anything beyond the surface similarities within these traditions, it quickly becomes clear that a number of the commonly ascribed themes aren't universal within the traditions themselves. What are the commonly ascribed themes?
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:12 am
Aino Ailill What are the commonly ascribed themes? Focus of development and moral framework are the ones that come to mind.
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:27 pm
I have questions about Hellenic polytheism: one question is, are there any sacred texts, associated with this path? I know that's a silly question, but I don't actually know what they are, only books on "Greek mythology" many of which seem to have false information. I dunno where to post that question but since it seems pretty stupid on my part this thread seems appropriate razz .
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:10 pm
Asahi Sara I have questions about Hellenic polytheism: one question is, are there any sacred texts, associated with this path? I know that's a silly question, but I don't actually know what they are, only books on "Greek mythology" many of which seem to have false information. I dunno where to post that question but since it seems pretty stupid on my part this thread seems appropriate razz . Are you looking for primary texts? Academic texts? Primary sources often include The Iliad, The Odyssey, The Homeric Hymns, and the The Orphic Hymns. I've also heard good things about Old Stones, New Temples.
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:53 pm
Not so much sacred text, but lots of primary texts, like Tea described --those are usually a good start.
OSNT isn't that great anymore -- the author didn't really note what was based in history and what was UPG (I do own a copy. It's actually next to me right now!). Also, it is insanely out of print. I recommend Kharis instead, and staying away from TJ Alexander until more well-versed in the community as a whole. Although, some of his books seem to mostly consist of primary sources.
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:59 pm
maenad nuri Although, some of his books seem to mostly consist of primary sources. Which ones?
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:18 pm
TeaDidikai maenad nuri Although, some of his books seem to mostly consist of primary sources. Which ones? Don't know offhand. I don't own the books, but have read the reviews. And well, I don't like Tim enough to support him by buying his books.
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:17 pm
maenad nuri TeaDidikai maenad nuri Although, some of his books seem to mostly consist of primary sources. Which ones? Don't know offhand. I don't own the books, but have read the reviews. And well, I don't like Tim enough to support him by buying his books. Fair enough.
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:26 pm
TeaDidikai Asahi Sara I have questions about Hellenic polytheism: one question is, are there any sacred texts, associated with this path? I know that's a silly question, but I don't actually know what they are, only books on "Greek mythology" many of which seem to have false information. I dunno where to post that question but since it seems pretty stupid on my part this thread seems appropriate razz . Are you looking for primary texts? Academic texts? Primary sources often include The Iliad, The Odyssey, The Homeric Hymns, and the The Orphic Hymns. I've also heard good things about Old Stones, New Temples. Ahh ok, these seems like a good starting point then. I wasn't sure if they were considered to be primary sources for the culture, but now I have a good starting point to build off of<3. Any translations or translators to look out for, since we're on the topic here? any to avoid, if you don't mind my asking?
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:29 am
Similarly, we just started reading Ancient Greek Religion by JD Mikalson for class, has anyone read that?
Also, we're reading Fasti, by Ovid, and Works and Days, and Theogony by Hesiod (trans. by Stanley Lombardo, who our Classics majors practically worship, if you wanted a good translation of the Iliad and the Odyssey, Sara) later in the semester, would those count as primary sources for Hellenic polytheism as well?
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:54 am
Ainwyn Similarly, we just started reading Ancient Greek Religion by JD Mikalson for class, has anyone read that? Also, we're reading Fasti, by Ovid, and Works and Days, and Theogony by Hesiod (trans. by Stanley Lombardo, who our Classics majors practically worship, if you wanted a good translation of the Iliad and the Odyssey, Sara) later in the semester, would those count as primary sources for Hellenic polytheism as well? Ovid ...I love Ovid, but he's not Hellenic. He's Roman. smile Different time period and views. Use carefully. The rest is good! (I think I've read Mikalson...but I'm not sure)
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:30 am
maenad nuri Ainwyn Similarly, we just started reading Ancient Greek Religion by JD Mikalson for class, has anyone read that? Also, we're reading Fasti, by Ovid, and Works and Days, and Theogony by Hesiod (trans. by Stanley Lombardo, who our Classics majors practically worship, if you wanted a good translation of the Iliad and the Odyssey, Sara) later in the semester, would those count as primary sources for Hellenic polytheism as well? Ovid ...I love Ovid, but he's not Hellenic. He's Roman. smile Different time period and views. Use carefully. The rest is good! (I think I've read Mikalson...but I'm not sure) So Ovid would be a secondary source then?
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:38 am
Ainwyn So Ovid would be a secondary source then? I'd say take it into consideration, but it's mostly fun for now. smile
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:42 am
maenad nuri Ainwyn So Ovid would be a secondary source then? I'd say take it into consideration, but it's mostly fun for now. smile Take it into consideration with a ******** boat load of salt though. He intentionally misconstrues facts to write a story into it. For instance, contrary to the Fasti, February was never the last month of the year.
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:13 pm
Celeblin Galadeneryn maenad nuri Ainwyn So Ovid would be a secondary source then? I'd say take it into consideration, but it's mostly fun for now. smile Take it into consideration with a ******** boat load of salt though. He intentionally misconstrues facts to write a story into it. For instance, contrary to the Fasti, February was never the last month of the year. Cool, thanks! Hopefully he brings that up before we start reading it, but I'll keep that in mind smile
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