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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:53 pm


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It's the only terminator army where you can equip each different terminator completely differently. xd That'll teach those jerks at tournaments who want to read your army list the whole match! Give them a reason too!


look at the GK, Draigowing they can get like four different nemesis force weapons, master crafted or not, and 3 different heavy weapons in 2 per 5 models ratio - again possibly master crafted (unless incinerator), plus possibly banner :3

I suppose they turn out about the same, but you can do some crazy s**t with Woofs. Such as taking a squad with storm shields and storm bolters. xD
Confused, I don't see the advantage. Don't Storm Shields only provide Invuls in assaults?


No, storm shields now a days grands a 3+ invul save all the time,
with the exception of rules that deny it.

That is why Deathwings/Blood Angels owns with StormShield + FeelNoPain rule. :p
Oh, well that's a definite game changer then. xp Toss a couple assault cannons in there, and that's a very durable unit putting out a ridiculous amount of mid-strength fire.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:47 pm


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look at the GK, Draigowing they can get like four different nemesis force weapons, master crafted or not, and 3 different heavy weapons in 2 per 5 models ratio - again possibly master crafted (unless incinerator), plus possibly banner :3

I suppose they turn out about the same, but you can do some crazy s**t with Woofs. Such as taking a squad with storm shields and storm bolters. xD
Confused, I don't see the advantage. Don't Storm Shields only provide Invuls in assaults?


No, storm shields now a days grands a 3+ invul save all the time,
with the exception of rules that deny it.

That is why Deathwings/Blood Angels owns with StormShield + FeelNoPain rule. :p
Oh, well that's a definite game changer then. xp Toss a couple assault cannons in there, and that's a very durable unit putting out a ridiculous amount of mid-strength fire.

sadly/luckily (depending on what side of the barrel you are) Assault Cannons have been reduced to 1 per 5 termies in the recent dexes... but paladins in the draigowing can get 2 per 5, and they are S7 (psycanons) to boot... and they can master-craft them! only downside is no stormshields...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:28 pm


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sadly/luckily (depending on what side of the barrel you are) Assault Cannons have been reduced to 1 per 5 termies in the recent dexes... but paladins in the draigowing can get 2 per 5, and they are S7 (psycanons) to boot... and they can master-craft them! only downside is no stormshields...
Well, that's significantly more balanced at least. I can see min-maxing termies just to put assault cannons on the field if you could get 2 per 5 termies.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:50 am


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Oh, well that's a definite game changer then. xp Toss a couple assault cannons in there, and that's a very durable unit putting out a ridiculous amount of mid-strength fire.


Won´t work on most chapters,
so far Deathwings are the only unit that has Norm-Termies and Assault-Termies
gear options in a one unit.
But even then it´s either Assault-Cannon+Powerfist OR TH+SS.
And it´s only for the wielder that gains the inv-save,
which really leaves the assault cannon being either
targeted with marksman-rule or with wound allocation. :-/

Not the mention the DW are only 5men units,
they can only have 1 assault-cannon/heavyflamer/cyclone ML. @.@

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 2:46 pm


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Oh, well that's a definite game changer then. xp Toss a couple assault cannons in there, and that's a very durable unit putting out a ridiculous amount of mid-strength fire.


Won´t work on most chapters,
so far Deathwings are the only unit that has Norm-Termies and Assault-Termies
gear options in a one unit.
But even then it´s either Assault-Cannon+Powerfist OR TH+SS.
And it´s only for the wielder that gains the inv-save,
which really leaves the assault cannon being either
targeted with marksman-rule or with wound allocation. :-/

Not the mention the DW are only 5men units,
they can only have 1 assault-cannon/heavyflamer/cyclone ML. @.@
How about special characters? Any characters out there with the options of a storm shield and assault cannon?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:16 am


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How about special characters? Any characters out there with the options of a storm shield and assault cannon?


Nope, unless there is a very obscure or very, very,
very old school character that has such option. <.<
CM Belial only has an option of SB+MCpower sword or TH+SS,
and all independed character (as far as I know) don´t have an Assault Cannon
as a choosable option in their wargear.

Althou... DA´s Company Master can have PlasmaPis,
SB, Pair of LC and Jump-pack and be a legal model. :-/
Weird ain´t it?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:36 pm


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How about special characters? Any characters out there with the options of a storm shield and assault cannon?


Nope, unless there is a very obscure or very, very,
very old school character that has such option. <.<
CM Belial only has an option of SB+MCpower sword or TH+SS,
and all independed character (as far as I know) don´t have an Assault Cannon
as a choosable option in their wargear.

Althou... DA´s Company Master can have PlasmaPis,
SB, Pair of LC and Jump-pack and be a legal model. :-/
Weird ain´t it?
That's not weird, it's Jervis working his magic. wink
PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:41 am


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That's not weird, it's Jervis working his magic. wink


Just like he did with scouts being Elites because of a better shotgun
and no DA-special rules other then Deathwing Assault rule? surprised


WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!?! gonk crying

Everything was so promising with the 4th ed SM and Black Templars. emo

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:01 am


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That's not weird, it's Jervis working his magic. wink


Just like he did with scouts being Elites because of a better shotgun
and no DA-special rules other then Deathwing Assault rule? surprised


WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!?! gonk crying

Everything was so promising with the 4th ed SM and Black Templars. emo
He was feeling a bit light-headed? wink
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:03 pm


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That's not weird, it's Jervis working his magic. wink


Just like he did with scouts being Elites because of a better shotgun
and no DA-special rules other then Deathwing Assault rule? surprised


WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!?! gonk crying

Everything was so promising with the 4th ed SM and Black Templars. emo
He was feeling a bit light-headed? wink


I´ll just blame the same source as with most video-games:
The Managment. surprised
My quess is that this codex was suppose to be a WD,
but got changed at last minute?
Emperor knows.... :-/

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:06 pm


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That's not weird, it's Jervis working his magic. wink


Just like he did with scouts being Elites because of a better shotgun
and no DA-special rules other then Deathwing Assault rule? surprised


WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!?! gonk crying

Everything was so promising with the 4th ed SM and Black Templars. emo
He was feeling a bit light-headed? wink


I´ll just blame the same source as with most video-games:
The Managment. surprised
My quess is that this codex was suppose to be a WD,
but got changed at last minute?
Emperor knows.... :-/
Oh no, this was years before the WD needed a boost.
PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 3:50 pm


The Codex for DA was planned, the problem is not allways those two names seen on the first pages on the book we have another guy that was a bit on the checking of it so yeah..

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:41 am


It was one of the last jobs Jervis did before they put him full-time on Standard Bearer IIRC.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:52 pm


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The Codex for DA was planned, the problem is not allways those two names seen on the first pages on the book we have another guy that was a bit on the checking of it so yeah..


Oh.... then it makes even LESS SENSE. gonk

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:56 pm


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It was one of the last jobs Jervis did before they put him full-time on Standard Bearer IIRC.

Is that all Jervis does now?
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