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 Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:54 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Well that's not what Christianity asserts, and from what I've read, I don't think so. I think us to have a He wants a relationship with Him more then He wants good works. You don't choose to believe it? O_o I mean, as much of a negative impact as it would have on my mental health, I could choose to be an atheist or force myself to believe whatever else I had too. I don't really do that with Christianity, but I still have control over what I believe. If I was brought up as an atheist, I'd probably fall into a pagan belief for the fun of it, but I couldn't see being unable to believe in a deity, especially when there's no direct evidence against Him.
Well, I mean, by my definition you can't choose to be an Atheist. Atheism is...well...belief in deity. It's what you are when you say
"Well, these religions don't make sense."
Although, it is a choice if you don't study enough of scientific facts and theories to possibly believe it or you could also deny the possibility of no deity.
There is actually a lot of evidence of God, however.
Plenty, even. But that's not this topic.It appealed to you before? Huh, now you have me feeling like I should play devil's advocate with that last comment... O_o
However, I can think less of something than before, which if that's the case of what your Christianity is, I have lost hope in it even more.Sorry to hear it, that wasn't my intent...What did I say, anyway that made it so unappealing? A lot of what I said was more about my personal experience then Christianity, so I'm a little curious as to what you're judging the religion on?
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:55 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Well that's not what Christianity asserts, and from what I've read, I don't think so. I think us to have a He wants a relationship with Him more then He wants good works. You don't choose to believe it? O_o I mean, as much of a negative impact as it would have on my mental health, I could choose to be an atheist or force myself to believe whatever else I had too. I don't really do that with Christianity, but I still have control over what I believe. If I was brought up as an atheist, I'd probably fall into a pagan belief for the fun of it, but I couldn't see being unable to believe in a deity, especially when there's no direct evidence against Him.
Well, I mean, by my definition you can't choose to be an Atheist. Atheism is...well...belief in deity. It's what you are when you say
"Well, these religions don't make sense."
Although, it is a choice if you don't study enough of scientific facts and theories to possibly believe it or you could also deny the possibility of no deity.
There is actually a lot of evidence of God, however.
Plenty, even. But that's not this topic.Huh, now you have me feeling like I should play devil's advocate with that last comment... O_o No problem, this mean we still have an argument. smile What evidence is there against Him? Do you have any direct evidence?
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:53 pm
Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Well that's not what Christianity asserts, and from what I've read, I don't think so. I think us to have a He wants a relationship with Him more then He wants good works. You don't choose to believe it? O_o I mean, as much of a negative impact as it would have on my mental health, I could choose to be an atheist or force myself to believe whatever else I had too. I don't really do that with Christianity, but I still have control over what I believe. If I was brought up as an atheist, I'd probably fall into a pagan belief for the fun of it, but I couldn't see being unable to believe in a deity, especially when there's no direct evidence against Him.
Well, I mean, by my definition you can't choose to be an Atheist. Atheism is...well...belief in deity. It's what you are when you say
"Well, these religions don't make sense."
Although, it is a choice if you don't study enough of scientific facts and theories to possibly believe it or you could also deny the possibility of no deity.
There is actually a lot of evidence of God, however.
Plenty, even. But that's not this topic.Huh, now you have me feeling like I should play devil's advocate with that last comment... O_o No problem, this mean we still have an argument. smile What evidence is there against Him? Do you have any direct evidence? Okay.
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:56 pm
Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Well that's not what Christianity asserts, and from what I've read, I don't think so. I think us to have a He wants a relationship with Him more then He wants good works. You don't choose to believe it? O_o I mean, as much of a negative impact as it would have on my mental health, I could choose to be an atheist or force myself to believe whatever else I had too. I don't really do that with Christianity, but I still have control over what I believe. If I was brought up as an atheist, I'd probably fall into a pagan belief for the fun of it, but I couldn't see being unable to believe in a deity, especially when there's no direct evidence against Him.
Well, I mean, by my definition you can't choose to be an Atheist. Atheism is...well...belief in deity. It's what you are when you say
"Well, these religions don't make sense."
Although, it is a choice if you don't study enough of scientific facts and theories to possibly believe it or you could also deny the possibility of no deity.
There is actually a lot of evidence of God, however.
Plenty, even. But that's not this topic.It appealed to you before? Huh, now you have me feeling like I should play devil's advocate with that last comment... O_o
However, I can think less of something than before, which if that's the case of what your Christianity is, I have lost hope in it even more.Sorry to hear it, that wasn't my intent...What did I say, anyway that made it so unappealing? A lot of what I said was more about my personal experience then Christianity, so I'm a little curious as to what you're judging the religion on? Actually when His children love Him they want to do good. Good works stem from being made in His image, and from serving a good master. So by having people come to know Him, both are being fulfilled.
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Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:32 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx It appealed to you before? Huh, now you have me feeling like I should play devil's advocate with that last comment... O_o
However, I can think less of something than before, which if that's the case of what your Christianity is, I have lost hope in it even more.Sorry to hear it, that wasn't my intent...What did I say, anyway that made it so unappealing? A lot of what I said was more about my personal experience then Christianity, so I'm a little curious as to what you're judging the religion on? Actually when His children love Him they want to do good. Good works stem from being made in His image, and from serving a good master. So by having people come to know Him, both are being fulfilled. But why is having a "master" a requirement? A servant can not have a real relationship with a master because of the power dynamic- The servant wants something from the master and the master wants something from the servant. It would be like wage-slaves loving the corporations that own them. While it happens, it is tragic, backwards and idiotic. While I understand that it's not the same with God, it is similar in the way that, given that we have free will, we are able to make choices God will like without "knowing" God as you describe it.
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:07 pm
gohst13 To the person who asked me to show the quote look up
Leviticus 18 unlawful sexual relations
It's aginsed insest and gay/lesbian relationships.
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:23 pm
As I said earlier, homosexuality is a choice.
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:27 pm
Emperor Angelo XXV As I said earlier, homosexuality is a choice. I didn't CHOOSE to be discriminated against, no one would choose to be gay. When did you choose to become attracted to the opposite sex?
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:28 pm
Emperor Angelo XXV As I said earlier, homosexuality is a choice. That I agree with. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:29 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Emperor Angelo XXV As I said earlier, homosexuality is a choice. That I agree with. 3nodding NO ONE chooses to be gay. When did you choose to be attracted to men? I want to KILL myself some days because I am gay. I have tried SO HARD to be straight. It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to be straight and attracted to men.
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:35 pm
divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx It appealed to you before? Huh, now you have me feeling like I should play devil's advocate with that last comment... O_o
However, I can think less of something than before, which if that's the case of what your Christianity is, I have lost hope in it even more.Sorry to hear it, that wasn't my intent...What did I say, anyway that made it so unappealing? A lot of what I said was more about my personal experience then Christianity, so I'm a little curious as to what you're judging the religion on? Actually when His children love Him they want to do good. Good works stem from being made in His image, and from serving a good master. So by having people come to know Him, both are being fulfilled. But why is having a "master" a requirement? A servant can not have a real relationship with a master because of the power dynamic- The servant wants something from the master and the master wants something from the servant. It would be like wage-slaves loving the corporations that own them. While it happens, it is tragic, backwards and idiotic. While I understand that it's not the same with God, it is similar in the way that, given that we have free will, we are able to make choices God will like without "knowing" God as you describe it. Except those corporations are heartless, and God really cares about people. It's more like the person who serves someone because they owe that person their life. When you have someone perfect like God, they don't take advantage of it, and since God is supposed to be in charge it's way more natural and uncorruptable. Plus you aren't supposed to stay a servent forever...you move on to being His child rather quickly, and then His friend. But you have to start low because there's there's things He needs to teach you, and other things you have to be freed from (like leftovers from a former sinful lifestyle).
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:42 pm
In Medias Res IV xxEternallyBluexx Emperor Angelo XXV As I said earlier, homosexuality is a choice. That I agree with. 3nodding NO ONE chooses to be gay. When did you choose to be attracted to men? I want to KILL myself some days because I am gay. I have tried SO HARD to be straight. It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to be straight and attracted to men. I'm not really. I know God has someone special for me, but I haven't even gone on a date or had a first kiss yet, and I'm turning 18 on Saturday. Pray. You believe in Him, right? Well, He's helped others, so I have no doubt He can help you. And yeah, I think while some people may be more inclined to homosexuality, there's definetely people who go gay to expiriment, rebel, or because they thrive under controversy, and no one HAS to live that lifestyle.
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:45 pm
xxEternallyBluexx In Medias Res IV xxEternallyBluexx Emperor Angelo XXV As I said earlier, homosexuality is a choice. That I agree with. 3nodding NO ONE chooses to be gay. When did you choose to be attracted to men? I want to KILL myself some days because I am gay. I have tried SO HARD to be straight. It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to be straight and attracted to men. I'm not really. I know God has someone special for me, but I haven't even gone on a date or had a first kiss yet, and I'm turning 18 on Saturday. That's your problem. Quote: Pray. You believe in Him, right? Well, He's helped others, so I have no doubt He can help you. Yeah for about.. since I was a little girl. Still gay, still fantasising about women. G-D's not changing that because it's not unnatural. Quote: And yeah, I think while some people may be more inclined to homosexuality, there's definetely people who go gay to expiriment, rebel, or because they thrive under controversy, and no one HAS to live that lifestyle. No one has to get married or have children either. To deny yourself love because others think it's a sin is disgusting and untrue to yourself. I'm twenty two years old, I'm not doing the rebel bullshit. I'm an adult, and wayyyyy beyond the experiment stage, honey. I'm gay. That's it, that's all. G-D loves me enough to want me to love and experience love. That doesn't have to come from a man. Why do you have the right to love and I don't? What makes you more special?
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:49 pm
In Medias Res IV xxEternallyBluexx In Medias Res IV xxEternallyBluexx Emperor Angelo XXV As I said earlier, homosexuality is a choice. That I agree with. 3nodding NO ONE chooses to be gay. When did you choose to be attracted to men? I want to KILL myself some days because I am gay. I have tried SO HARD to be straight. It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to be straight and attracted to men. I'm not really. I know God has someone special for me, but I haven't even gone on a date or had a first kiss yet, and I'm turning 18 on Saturday. That's your problem. Quote: Pray. You believe in Him, right? Well, He's helped others, so I have no doubt He can help you. Yeah for about.. since I was a little girl. Still gay, still fantasising about women. G-D's not changing that because it's not unnatural. Quote: And yeah, I think while some people may be more inclined to homosexuality, there's definetely people who go gay to expiriment, rebel, or because they thrive under controversy, and no one HAS to live that lifestyle. No one has to get married or have children either. To deny yourself love because others think it's a sin is disgusting and untrue to yourself. I'm twenty two years old, I'm not doing the rebel bullshit. I'm an adult, and wayyyyy beyond the experiment stage, honey. I'm gay. That's it, that's all. G-D loves me enough to want me to love and experience love. That doesn't have to come from a man. Why do you have the right to love and I don't? What makes you more special? It's a problem? That's news to me. razz And whatever. I'll argue more when I know more, so take it up with somebody else.
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Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:51 pm
xxEternallyBluexx In Medias Res IV xxEternallyBluexx In Medias Res IV xxEternallyBluexx That I agree with. 3nodding NO ONE chooses to be gay. When did you choose to be attracted to men? I want to KILL myself some days because I am gay. I have tried SO HARD to be straight. It's IMPOSSIBLE for me to be straight and attracted to men. I'm not really. I know God has someone special for me, but I haven't even gone on a date or had a first kiss yet, and I'm turning 18 on Saturday. That's your problem. Quote: Pray. You believe in Him, right? Well, He's helped others, so I have no doubt He can help you. Yeah for about.. since I was a little girl. Still gay, still fantasising about women. G-D's not changing that because it's not unnatural. Quote: And yeah, I think while some people may be more inclined to homosexuality, there's definetely people who go gay to expiriment, rebel, or because they thrive under controversy, and no one HAS to live that lifestyle. No one has to get married or have children either. To deny yourself love because others think it's a sin is disgusting and untrue to yourself. I'm twenty two years old, I'm not doing the rebel bullshit. I'm an adult, and wayyyyy beyond the experiment stage, honey. I'm gay. That's it, that's all. G-D loves me enough to want me to love and experience love. That doesn't have to come from a man. Why do you have the right to love and I don't? What makes you more special? It's a problem? That's news to me. razz And whatever. I'll argue more when I know more, so take it up with somebody else. You're conceding that you don't know anything about homosexuality and the Bible. Thank HaShem, because you certainly don't. it's not a sin.
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