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 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:59 am
I am mildly irritated by 'fat acceptance' motions and 'proud' overweight people. I mean, I totally support unconditionally loving the body that you're in and all of that, but if you're going to talk about embracing all body types indiscriminately and urge the world to accept you for what you choose to be and then turn around and call thin women things like 'brittle-a** Barbies' or ' clones' or even go so far as to call them 'abnormal and unrealistic', you are contributing to the very thing you say you want to eradicate. Oh, but when they do it to you, they're shallow, ignorant, immature, and/or projecting their own insecurities on to others.
rolleyes So what the ******** are you, then, when you pull the exact same s**t? Deep, mature, and confident?
Why do we always feel the need to push other people down in order to uplift ourselves? Why can't we all just be okay with who and what we are without having to diminish other people for that ego boost? Why does ******** everything have to be a competition?
I consider people to be at their absolute worst when they are trying to make themselves out to be better than others.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:09 am
Cabron LaSwan I am mildly irritated by 'fat acceptance' motions and 'proud' overweight people. I mean, I totally support unconditionally loving the body that you're in and all of that, but if you're going to talk about embracing all body types indiscriminately and urge the world to accept you for what you choose to be and then turn around and call thin women things like 'brittle-a** Barbies' or ' clones' or even go so far as to call them 'abnormal and unrealistic', you are contributing to the very thing you say you want to eradicate. Oh, but when they do it to you, they're shallow, ignorant, immature, and/or projecting their own insecurities on to others.
rolleyes So what the ******** are you, then, when you pull the exact same s**t? Deep, mature, and confident?
Why do we always feel the need to push other people down in order to uplift ourselves? Why can't we all just be okay with who and what we are without having to diminish other people for that ego boost? Why does ******** everything have to be a competition?
I consider people to be at their absolute worst when they are trying to make themselves out to be better than others.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:22 am
Cabron LaSwan I am mildly irritated by 'fat acceptance' motions and 'proud' overweight people. I mean, I totally support unconditionally loving the body that you're in and all of that, but if you're going to talk about embracing all body types indiscriminately and urge the world to accept you for what you choose to be and then turn around and call thin women things like 'brittle-a** Barbies' or ' clones' or even go so far as to call them 'abnormal and unrealistic', you are contributing to the very thing you say you want to eradicate. Oh, but when they do it to you, they're shallow, ignorant, immature, and/or projecting their own insecurities on to others.
rolleyes So what the ******** are you, then, when you pull the exact same s**t? Deep, mature, and confident?
Why do we always feel the need to push other people down in order to uplift ourselves? Why can't we all just be okay with who and what we are without having to diminish other people for that ego boost? Why does ******** everything have to be a competition?
I consider people to be at their absolute worst when they are trying to make themselves out to be better than others. I dont agree with what's happened but I understand how it got where it is now. You have the media hyping an unrealistically thin physique(literally for many people it's just not possible, we have different body types), diet commercials everywhere, fashionable clothes that come in size restrictions, and the ilk. Some of us can ignore that; but when you have an overbearing system that declares itself as the sexiest/best, you tend to go either one of two ways. You can be sad, or you can be angry. If you chose option one, you become the person wearing the super baggy clothes, wind up with a terrible self image, and assume your s**t because that's what you hear whenever the topic comes up. If you have a bit more confidence in yourself, you feel like your fine the way you are, and who the hell are these people to say that they are better. You tend to then overcompensate with a bias, and blame other people. If you thought the entire world was calling you ugly for no reason, you'd probably start to assume they were in fact a bunch of shallow, ignorant, and immature people. Is it right to hate on the people who are hating on you? No, but I think you'll find a variety of different answers to that question when you bring up specific examples. Look at racism, its a more drastic version of the same problem. the gay and bi movement deals with the same issue. religious biases are EVERYWHERE. so even though your BMI is a pretty insignificant issue compared to these things, if you make it a big deal (entirely pun-intentional) people will fight back.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:37 pm
Tattoo Get! +2 badassery points achieved! twisted
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:25 pm
Rhed King Cabron LaSwan I am mildly irritated by 'fat acceptance' motions and 'proud' overweight people. I mean, I totally support unconditionally loving the body that you're in and all of that, but if you're going to talk about embracing all body types indiscriminately and urge the world to accept you for what you choose to be and then turn around and call thin women things like 'brittle-a** Barbies' or ' clones' or even go so far as to call them 'abnormal and unrealistic', you are contributing to the very thing you say you want to eradicate. Oh, but when they do it to you, they're shallow, ignorant, immature, and/or projecting their own insecurities on to others.
rolleyes So what the ******** are you, then, when you pull the exact same s**t? Deep, mature, and confident?
Why do we always feel the need to push other people down in order to uplift ourselves? Why can't we all just be okay with who and what we are without having to diminish other people for that ego boost? Why does ******** everything have to be a competition?
I consider people to be at their absolute worst when they are trying to make themselves out to be better than others. I dont agree with what's happened but I understand how it got where it is now. You have the media hyping an unrealistically thin physique(literally for many people it's just not possible, we have different body types), diet commercials everywhere, fashionable clothes that come in size restrictions, and the ilk. Some of us can ignore that; but when you have an overbearing system that declares itself as the sexiest/best, you tend to go either one of two ways. You can be sad, or you can be angry. If you chose option one, you become the person wearing the super baggy clothes, wind up with a terrible self image, and assume your s**t because that's what you hear whenever the topic comes up. If you have a bit more confidence in yourself, you feel like your fine the way you are, and who the hell are these people to say that they are better. You tend to then overcompensate with a bias, and blame other people. If you thought the entire world was calling you ugly for no reason, you'd probably start to assume they were in fact a bunch of shallow, ignorant, and immature people. Is it right to hate on the people who are hating on you? No, but I think you'll find a variety of different answers to that question when you bring up specific examples. Look at racism, its a more drastic version of the same problem. the gay and bi movement deals with the same issue. religious biases are EVERYWHERE. so even though your BMI is a pretty insignificant issue compared to these things, if you make it a big deal (entirely pun-intentional) people will fight back. To me it's not even about weight or image or whatever. It's about hypocrisy and betterthanyouism (yes, that is a word now.) I think that people who were actually honestly secure, happy with, and accepting of themselves would feel no need to lash out at other people. Like, you can call Cookie an enormous f*****t and he'll laugh, wink, and wiggle his a**, not try to argue that his sexuality is better than yours.
(Also, you neglected option C: recognize that opinion for what it is, an opinion. Albeit a popular one, it is not a 'law' or a 'fact' of sexiness and there is always going to be someone out there whose tastes deviate from the norm.)
I just don't get why everyone feels the need to put up the facade of self-esteem, even at the expense of attacking someone else's. If you don't like something about yourself, why try to hide it? Nobody's perfect, and there are plenty of people out there who will embrace you, flaws and all, without you trying to prove that you're more worthy of their time than somebody else.
I read somewhere in a psychology book that everyone's number-one need was acceptance, and that everyone's greatest fear was rejection. Why, then, do people feel the need to reject and condescend everything? It's propagating a cycle that nobody wants, and more often than not, denying us the things we do in the process. It's probably the least logical defense mechanism ever.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:59 pm
Rhed King A HEARTY RETORT To me it's not even about weight or image or whatever. It's about hypocrisy and betterthanyouism (yes, that is a word now.) I think that people who were actually honestly secure, happy with, and accepting of themselves would feel no need to lash out at other people. Like, you can call Cookie an enormous f*****t and he'll laugh, wink, and wiggle his a**, not try to argue that his sexuality is better than yours.
(Also, you neglected option C: recognize that opinion for what it is, an opinion. Albeit a popular one, it is not a 'law' or a 'fact' of sexiness and there is always going to be someone out there whose tastes deviate from the norm.)
I just don't get why everyone feels the need to put up the facade of self-esteem, even at the expense of attacking someone else's. If you don't like something about yourself, why try to hide it? Nobody's perfect, and there are plenty of people out there who will embrace you, flaws and all, without you trying to prove that you're more worthy of their time than somebody else.
I read somewhere in a psychology book that everyone's number-one need was acceptance, and that everyone's greatest fear was rejection. Why, then, do people feel the need to reject and condescend everything? It's propagating a cycle that nobody wants, and more often than not, denying us the things we do in the process. It's probably the least logical defense mechanism ever. Specifically regarding option C, i did mention that there is a good portion of those being targeted by Insert 'problem' here that won't really care. I guess initially i thought you were upset that people were retaliating against weight bashing by weight bashing. That's bound to happen, as dumb as it is. regarding the final topic your talking about, cookie and I once had a long winded discussion that basically summed up "if you are part of an organization" you are inadvertantly challenging other people, have a bais towards people of your same organization, and are thus insulting everyone else. When an organization forms, that you aren't in, you tend to feel rejected. So what do you do? you join with the people who share something with you. Namely, the fact that they aren't in said group. now you can all talk about bashing the other group. Whoops, now you became a group, and unless you invited everyone else, a third group is going to pop up. Simply put, the sheer fact that we have more than one country on the planet is a testament to the fact there will always be one group looking down on another. Religion counts, race CAN count (if those involved think it does) age can count, EVERYTHING can and will contribute to you finding things more like you, and thus bashing other people, sometimes inadvertantly, sometimes intentionally.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:07 pm
Rhed King That's because it's clear he has the most omni-sex powers, so the arguement will never come up in the first placeSpecifically regarding option C, i did mention that there is a good portion of those being targeted by Insert 'problem' here that won't really care. I guess initially i thought you were upset that people were retaliating against weight bashing by weight bashing. That's bound to happen, as dumb as it is. regarding the final topic your talking about, cookie and I once had a long winded discussion that basically summed up "if you are part of an organization" you are inadvertantly challenging other people, have a bais towards people of your same organization, and are thus insulting everyone else. When an organization forms, that you aren't in, you tend to feel rejected. So what do you do? you join with the people who share something with you. Namely, the fact that they aren't in said group. now you can all talk about bashing the other group. Whoops, now you became a group, and unless you invited everyone else, a third group is going to pop up. Simply put, the sheer fact that we have more than one country on the planet is a testament to the fact there will always be one group looking down on another. Religion counts, race CAN count (if those involved think it does) age can count, EVERYTHING can and will contribute to you finding things more like you, and thus bashing other people, sometimes inadvertantly, sometimes intentionally. Yeah, it's mainly about people who fight back against feelings of exclusion by trying to exclude other people. Weight, race, religion, nationality, the basic behavior is the same. It drives me nuts. I believe there is a way to celebrate yourself without making anyone else feel any less worthy of celebration, but I don't believe we're ever going to find it as long as people measure themselves by what other people think about them.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:38 pm
Cabron LaSwan It's about hypocrisy and betterthanyouism (yes, that is a word now.)Not according to the professionals, sister. Also, as long as people think differently, there will always be others putting each other down. That's one of the trade-offs of freedom.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:40 pm
:O Are we talking about insecurities now?
No? This is more about hypocrisy caused by insecurities?
TOO BAD.
I am insecure about my height because I am goddamn tiny. :I
Whenever I see a hot guy that's tall I'm like, "Ugggh, I can't do my mating dance for him or he'll think he's a *****. >:C "
I think I will get tattoos on my feet to get taller through good juju and creepermagic.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:49 pm
Urghu my drawings, the process of drawing, people seeing me with the animes.
Lately though, I've been giving more of a "I don't give a ********" stance with those, though.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:04 pm
You kick that urghudrawings feeling in the FACE.
There is some talk here about disabling internet at our house to get this bum off our couch. I am totally fine with this.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:08 pm
Dulnair You kick that urghudrawings feeling in the FACE. There is some talk here about disabling internet at our house to get this bum off our couch. I am totally fine with this.
IN THE ANIMES STYLE
BECAUSE THAT IS MY ******** YOU WORLD
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:09 pm
Carchar-odin Cabron LaSwan It's about hypocrisy and betterthanyouism (yes, that is a word now.)Not according to the professionals, sister. Also, as long as people think differently, there will always be others putting each other down. That's one of the trade-offs of freedom. I dunno, I think it's entirely possible to have different opinions without trying to assert that yours is 'better' or 'righter' than someone else's. My favorite color is orange, but I'm not going to talk down anyone else's favorite color because I know it's subjective. Like everything. The problem, from my point of view, arises when some things are asserted to be concrete and unchangeable; when people try to present opinion as fact and adopt the 'if you do not agree with me, there is something wrong with you' mentality. Maybe it's a case of people feeling they need the support of their peers to feel like they are doing or thinking the 'right' thing. Maybe it's a case of people feeling they need to support the things they do to 'fit in' or be 'fashionable'. Maybe it's a case of taking the subject so seriously that they can't stand to admit that they might be 'wrong' in the beliefs they have put so much into.
In any case, I don't think anyone who was completely secure in themselves would ever feel the need to condescend anyone else; I think it's more motivated by an innate sense of inferiority or need for validation than it is a natural product of diversity.
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:09 pm
Dulnair : O Are we talking about insecurities now? No? This is more about hypocrisy caused by insecurities? TOO BAD. I am insecure about my height because I am goddamn tiny. :I Whenever I see a hot guy that's tall I'm like, "Ugggh, I can't do my mating dance for him or he'll think he's a *****. >:C " I think I will get tattoos on my feet to get taller through good juju and creepermagic. Have I mentioned how you make every thread better XD I WAS insecure about my red hair, because my first school hated on gingers so much. Then I stopped having red hair, and being a daywalker wasn't as fun to laugh at i guess. Then I changed schools and I got reddish hair back. clearly a self defense mechanism, my hair will darken to avoid taunting. xd
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:12 pm
Rhed King Dulnair :O Are we talking about insecurities now? No? This is more about hypocrisy caused by insecurities? TOO BAD. I am insecure about my height because I am goddamn tiny. :I Whenever I see a hot guy that's tall I'm like, "Ugggh, I can't do my mating dance for him or he'll think he's a *****. >:C " I think I will get tattoos on my feet to get taller through good juju and creepermagic. Have I mentioned how you make every thread better XD I WAS insecure about my red hair, because my first school hated on gingers so much. Then I stopped having red hair, and being a daywalker wasn't as fun to laugh at i guess. Then I changed schools and I got reddish hair back. clearly a self defense mechanism, my hair will darken to avoid taunting. xd Rhed's a natural ginger?
redface
+1 stalk
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