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 Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:47 am
Caleidah Necro Fusion Caleidah Van Evok if you are going into Nurgle anyway, dont hesitate and get those Plague Marines!
When I take Plague Marines, I take them as all of my troops and usually only a single small unit of unmarked bikers.Yeah, that's the whole issue with the special troop units for Chaos, they eat up points more than anyone else. gonk Like the fact that you can blow 600+ pts on a full size squad of Noise Marines. At least we're allowed to have giant units unlike the Space Marine ten man limit. Sure, they can split up, but if you just use completely standard Chaos Space Marines and focus on troops, you can completely swamp a Space Marine army. biggrin
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:57 pm
Need some input into this army. Looking for any constructive criticism and ways to change it.
HQ
Captain (100) 145 pts
Thunder Hammer(30)
Artificer Armour(15)
Troops
Tactical Squad 100 pts
5 marines plus sergeant
heavy bolter, flamer
Sergeant has storm bolter (10)
Razorback transport (40) 55 pts
Extra Armour (15)
Keeping the twin linked heavy bolters
Tactical Squad (90) 195 pts
+5 marines (80)
Again heavy bolter and flamer
Sergeant has power fist (25)
Rhino (35) 50 pts
Extra armour (15)
Scout Squad (75) 100 pts
Camo cloaks (15)
Heavy bolter (10)
Rest of the squad have shotguns
Fast attack
Assault Squad (100) 145 pts
Sergeant has storm shield (15) and thunder hammer (30)
total: 780 points
Now my idea is that i can either increase the points to 980 by including assault terminators, or add some more in the way of my scouts by Sergeant Telion which will replace the sergeant of the scout squads and adding an extra 50 pts to the total, and i can also boost the unit size to 6 with the previous sergeant becoming a normal scout which will be another 13 pts.
Until i playtest the army i cant say much, but anyone out there. Is this army a yay or nay situation?
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:41 pm
Lunar Okami Rose Need some input into this army. Looking for any constructive criticism and ways to change it. HQCaptain (100) 145 pts Thunder Hammer(30) Artificer Armour(15) better give him storm shield to protect from fistsTroopsTactical Squad 100 pts 5 marines plus sergeant heavy bolter, flamer Sergeant has storm bolter (10) Razorback transport (40) 55 pts Extra Armour (15) Keeping the twin linked heavy bolters can't have HB nor flamer on squad unless 10 strongTactical Squad (90) 195 pts +5 marines (80) Again heavy bolter and flamer Sergeant has power fist (25) Rhino (35) 50 pts Extra armour (15) Scout Squad (75) 100 pts Camo cloaks (15) Heavy bolter (10) Rest of the squad have shotguns givem sniper rifles to match HB rangeFast attackAssault Squad (100) 145 pts Sergeant has storm shield (15) and thunder hammer (30) no need for shield really since hes last guy to take wounds on - better get another marine or 2 total: 780 points Now my idea is that i can either increase the points to 980 by including assault terminators, or add some more in the way of my scouts by Sergeant Telion which will replace the sergeant of the scout squads and adding an extra 50 pts to the total, and i can also boost the unit size to 6 with the previous sergeant becoming a normal scout which will be another 13 pts. Until i playtest the army i cant say much, but anyone out there. Is this army a yay or nay situation?
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:41 am
Lunar Okami Rose Need some input into this army. Looking for any constructive criticism and ways to change it. HQCaptain (100) 145 pts Thunder Hammer(30) Artificer Armour(15) TroopsTactical Squad 100 pts 5 marines plus sergeant heavy bolter, flamer Sergeant has storm bolter (10) Razorback transport (40) 55 pts Extra Armour (15) Keeping the twin linked heavy bolters Tactical Squad (90) 195 pts +5 marines (80) Again heavy bolter and flamer Sergeant has power fist (25) Rhino (35) 50 pts Extra armour (15) Scout Squad (75) 100 pts Camo cloaks (15) Heavy bolter (10) Rest of the squad have shotguns Fast attackAssault Squad (100) 145 pts Sergeant has storm shield (15) and thunder hammer (30) total: 780 points Now my idea is that i can either increase the points to 980 by including assault terminators, or add some more in the way of my scouts by Sergeant Telion which will replace the sergeant of the scout squads and adding an extra 50 pts to the total, and i can also boost the unit size to 6 with the previous sergeant becoming a normal scout which will be another 13 pts. Until i playtest the army i cant say much, but anyone out there. Is this army a yay or nay situation? All in all i give this army a yay as its a good force, strong units and a lot of speed and mobility. The only downside i'd say is the lack of anti vehicle weaponry. My suggestion is Devastators with Multi Meltas and Lascannons, dreadnoughts with multi meltas and quite possibly a Whirlwind or even a Predator with lascannons
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Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:55 am
Tai Strife
I can see where your coming from, and i'll definitely take it in mind. With the dreadnought i can get one from the Black Reach boxset and a unit of terminators to boost numbers. The Devastators would be good for long range, maybe even include a Drop Pod assault to surprise them. Instead of the Predator what about a Thunderfire Cannon?
Van Evok
Oh definetly (i think i've spelt that right) I could equip the scouts with a Teleport beacon, and buy a Land Speeder Storm for transport, and equip the Storm with multi melta i can fulfill an anti tank role as well.
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:54 pm
Definitely.*
I like it, and I applaud you for keeping the Captain simple instead of making him uber-expensive.
As for the Scouts, putting shotguns with a Heavy Bolter doesn't make much sense; a squad of assault weapons doesn't belong with a heavy weapon. If you want them to be a ranged asset, give them bolters or sniper rifles; if you want them to be close up, give the Sargeant a special weapon or pistol and drop the heavy bolter; since you paid for the Camo cloaks, I'd keep them as a ranged asset, especially since you've already got the assault marines for up close.
I'd suggest trying to trim 30 points off this list to make it a more standard 750 points.
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:46 pm
Van Evok Lunar Okami Rose Need some input into this army. Looking for any constructive criticism and ways to change it. HQCaptain (100) 145 pts Thunder Hammer(30) Artificer Armour(15) better give him storm shield to protect from fistsTroopsTactical Squad 100 pts 5 marines plus sergeant heavy bolter, flamer Sergeant has storm bolter (10) Razorback transport (40) 55 pts Extra Armour (15) Keeping the twin linked heavy bolters can't have HB nor flamer on squad unless 10 strongTactical Squad (90) 195 pts +5 marines (80) Again heavy bolter and flamer Sergeant has power fist (25) Rhino (35) 50 pts Extra armour (15) Scout Squad (75) 100 pts Camo cloaks (15) Heavy bolter (10) Rest of the squad have shotguns givem sniper rifles to match HB rangeFast attackAssault Squad (100) 145 pts Sergeant has storm shield (15) and thunder hammer (30) no need for shield really since hes last guy to take wounds on - better get another marine or 2 total: 780 points Now my idea is that i can either increase the points to 980 by including assault terminators, or add some more in the way of my scouts by Sergeant Telion which will replace the sergeant of the scout squads and adding an extra 50 pts to the total, and i can also boost the unit size to 6 with the previous sergeant becoming a normal scout which will be another 13 pts. Until i playtest the army i cant say much, but anyone out there. Is this army a yay or nay situation? I'm trying to get the army into a suitable points range, and some i can keep in mind. I'm not maxing out my captain with a storm shield, i'm taking the thunder hammer away from my Assault Sergeant to keep it to a 750 point army. I think i'll keep the Captain as he is, attach him to my 5 man tactical squad with a Razorback, which by the way can have a flamer even if its a 5 man squad, but your right on the Heavy Bolter, and that will give him some extra protection. I probably will exchange shtoguns for sniper rifles, there's no extra cost plus all weapons are heavy so i will keep them as a ranged assault like DarkElf27 suggested, but still give the unit an extra sting with the Hellfire Shells.
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:52 pm
Updated army list
HQ
Captain (100) 145 pts
Thunder Hammer(30)
Artificer Armour(15)
Troops
Tactical Squad 100 pts
5 marines plus sergeant
flamer
Sergeant has storm bolter (10)
Razorback transport (40) 55 pts
Extra Armour (15)
Keeping the twin linked heavy bolters
Tactical Squad (90) 195 pts
+5 marines (80)
Again heavy bolter and flamer
Sergeant has power fist (25)
Rhino (35) 50 pts
Extra armour (15)
Scout Squad (75) 100 pts
Camo cloaks (15)
Heavy bolter (10)
Rest of the squad have Sniper Rifles
Fast attack
Assault Squad (100) 115 pts
Sergeant has storm shield (15)
total: 750 points
I'm going to be playtesting this army over the next couple of weeks, testing its the strong and weak sides to the army. I'll change it as i see fit, and if neccessary increase the points upto 1500 and add some new toys. Thanks for the help everyone
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 2:22 pm
Lunar Okami Rose Updated army list HQCaptain (100) 145 pts Thunder Hammer(30) Artificer Armour(15) TroopsTactical Squad 100 pts 5 marines plus sergeant flamer Sergeant has storm bolter (10) Razorback transport (40) 55 pts Extra Armour (15) Keeping the twin linked heavy bolters Tactical Squad (90) 195 pts +5 marines (80) Again heavy bolter and flamer Sergeant has power fist (25) Rhino (35) 50 pts Extra armour (15) Scout Squad (75) 100 pts Camo cloaks (15) Heavy bolter (10) Rest of the squad have Sniper Rifles Fast attackAssault Squad (100) 115 pts Sergeant has storm shield (15) total: 750 points I'm going to be playtesting this army over the next couple of weeks, testing its the strong and weak sides to the army. I'll change it as i see fit, and if neccessary increase the points upto 1500 and add some new toys. Thanks for the help everyone captain will be better off with stormshield assault sgt should get power fist or at least weapon, shield is not necessary
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 7:45 pm
Now that I look at it; where's the anti-tank in that list?
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 8:57 am
I've said about that already, and i've made suggestions on the anti tank side of the force.
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:12 am
Van Evok Lunar Okami Rose Updated army list HQCaptain (100) 145 pts Thunder Hammer(30) Artificer Armour(15) TroopsTactical Squad 100 pts 5 marines plus sergeant flamer Sergeant has storm bolter (10) Razorback transport (40) 55 pts Extra Armour (15) Keeping the twin linked heavy bolters Tactical Squad (90) 195 pts +5 marines (80) Again heavy bolter and flamer Sergeant has power fist (25) Rhino (35) 50 pts Extra armour (15) Scout Squad (75) 100 pts Camo cloaks (15) Heavy bolter (10) Rest of the squad have Sniper Rifles Fast attackAssault Squad (100) 115 pts Sergeant has storm shield (15) total: 750 points I'm going to be playtesting this army over the next couple of weeks, testing its the strong and weak sides to the army. I'll change it as i see fit, and if neccessary increase the points upto 1500 and add some new toys. Thanks for the help everyone captain will be better off with stormshield assault sgt should get power fist or at least weapon, shield is not necessary I dont think a captain with a Stormshield will make any difference. All it grants you is a 3+ invulnerable save. It's not like you gain the extra attack from it. If you want to keep the captain out of harms way and get him into combat then stick him with the 5 man tactical squad so he can drive across in the rhino. For the assault sergeant, you might want to keep him as he is. With this army list your at a 750 turning point for an average game. The only way you can add something new is if you take something away. The way i see it the shield is neccessary; 3+ invulnerable save will keep him safe and his chainsword can do the rest of the work in the assault phase along with the grenades.
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:08 am
Swap the HB in the tactical Squad for a Lascannon, then split them up into Combat squads, swap the HB in the Scouts for a Missile Launcher, and give the AS Sergeant a Power fist, along with his storm shield.
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:04 pm
Jason Da Psycho Swap the HB in the tactical Squad for a Lascannon, then split them up into Combat squads, swap the HB in the Scouts for a Missile Launcher, and give the AS Sergeant a Power fist, along with his storm shield. I'm trying not to boost up the army just yet. After Thursday when i've had the chance to playtest the army at my local store is when i'll make the increase
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:11 am
Lunar Okami Rose Jason Da Psycho Swap the HB in the tactical Squad for a Lascannon, then split them up into Combat squads, swap the HB in the Scouts for a Missile Launcher, and give the AS Sergeant a Power fist, along with his storm shield. I'm trying not to boost up the army just yet. After Thursday when i've had the chance to playtest the army at my local store is when i'll make the increase No I'm just saying, that for Anti-Tank stuff.
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