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 Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:07 pm
divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph It's still illogical to say "Since I don't know of anything else, my interpretation must be right." It would be like someone who has never taken geometry claiming it to be impossible to find the area of a triangle because he or she doesn't know how. The country was made for the dictator's purposes, by the dictator- If this dictator is powerful enough to make a country, why shouldn't he rule it and have it be for him? You're comparing something concrete like geometry with beliefs? O_o And what exactly are you asking me to do? Argue for a different view? Admit other views exist? The former would be foolish, and the latter I do recognize. Because everything was still made by God, and so is made for His purposes first. What He wants to do with it is more important. Plus the dictator's still human, and so is bound to mess up somehow. Again, God's perfect, so it's different with Him. But you're going all or nothing- You're essentially saying "If it's not my way, it's not any way" which isn't the case. The argument was "The afterlife is what is important" but then, who is to say your vision of it is the right one? Saying "I don't know about others" is no reason to say that they are not viable possibilities. Fair enough, but it would still be fascism, even if the fascist were perfect. It's a reason not to argue for those possibilities. No one knows all the religions well enough to be able to know for sure their arguing for the right religion. From the evidences I have, my God seems to be real and powerful. He also says other gods are false, and that His way is the only one. Unless it's proven He's not real, another religion puts up an argument that seems more logical then the ones I've read about for Christianity or I lose a lot of faith, I gotta go with that. Fine, but not in the worst sense of the word, which we get from the bad examples on this earth. But what you are arguing is "If it's not my way, it's no way", which is incorrect. I never said fascism was truly bad, although I agree- in a mortal world, it is. But one being literally controlling everything is still wrong. That's why we have free will. No, I'm arguing for what I know. Who argues for what they don't know? Besides it's not 'my way', it's God's. How is it wrong? Why do you get to deem it so? And He gave us free will. It's a gift. (Anyway this is off topic so...) And Zakku, where are you getting the Bible's been changed? It hasn't.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:10 pm
rmcdra divineseraph Right, and by that logic, so is any sort of shell fish, pork, certain mixtures of foods- It's also alright to own and beat slaves, as long as you don't leave a permanent mark, and to kill anyone woman who practices sorcery. The witchcraft thing is kind of a misnomer since Judaism technically has it's own version of witchcraft which is endorsed by the religion. It's more speaking about witchcraft that is not endorsed by YHVH. Edit: Anyway I get your point. Hey, in the part it says it, it says nothing about "Except our sorcery"- If we're going to be literal about this, we're going to be literal.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:43 pm
divineseraph rmcdra divineseraph Right, and by that logic, so is any sort of shell fish, pork, certain mixtures of foods- It's also alright to own and beat slaves, as long as you don't leave a permanent mark, and to kill anyone woman who practices sorcery. The witchcraft thing is kind of a misnomer since Judaism technically has it's own version of witchcraft which is endorsed by the religion. It's more speaking about witchcraft that is not endorsed by YHVH. Edit: Anyway I get your point. Hey, in the part it says it, it says nothing about "Except our sorcery"- If we're going to be literal about this, we're going to be literal. Oh that's right we are completely ignoring context and cultural meanings that the original words were translated from. Stupid me I forgot.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:13 pm
xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph It's still illogical to say "Since I don't know of anything else, my interpretation must be right." It would be like someone who has never taken geometry claiming it to be impossible to find the area of a triangle because he or she doesn't know how. The country was made for the dictator's purposes, by the dictator- If this dictator is powerful enough to make a country, why shouldn't he rule it and have it be for him? You're comparing something concrete like geometry with beliefs? O_o And what exactly are you asking me to do? Argue for a different view? Admit other views exist? The former would be foolish, and the latter I do recognize. Because everything was still made by God, and so is made for His purposes first. What He wants to do with it is more important. Plus the dictator's still human, and so is bound to mess up somehow. Again, God's perfect, so it's different with Him. But you're going all or nothing- You're essentially saying "If it's not my way, it's not any way" which isn't the case. The argument was "The afterlife is what is important" but then, who is to say your vision of it is the right one? Saying "I don't know about others" is no reason to say that they are not viable possibilities. Fair enough, but it would still be fascism, even if the fascist were perfect. It's a reason not to argue for those possibilities. No one knows all the religions well enough to be able to know for sure their arguing for the right religion. From the evidences I have, my God seems to be real and powerful. He also says other gods are false, and that His way is the only one. Unless it's proven He's not real, another religion puts up an argument that seems more logical then the ones I've read about for Christianity or I lose a lot of faith, I gotta go with that. Fine, but not in the worst sense of the word, which we get from the bad examples on this earth. But what you are arguing is "If it's not my way, it's no way", which is incorrect. I never said fascism was truly bad, although I agree- in a mortal world, it is. But one being literally controlling everything is still wrong. That's why we have free will. No, I'm arguing for what I know. Who argues for what they don't know? Besides it's not 'my way', it's God's. How is it wrong? Why do you get to deem it so? And He gave us free will. It's a gift. (Anyway this is off topic so...) And Zakku, where are you getting the Bible's been changed? It hasn't. But you're denying every possibility that you DON'T know. Which is illogical. And no, it's not. It's your way of knowing God. That is not necessarily God. For example, it was believed that piles of hay generated mice because mice came from the hay. (look it up.) That's not the way of hay, that's the way of that understanding, which is, of course, not necessarily correct. A gift we can't use? Some gift.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:01 pm
xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph It's still illogical to say "Since I don't know of anything else, my interpretation must be right." It would be like someone who has never taken geometry claiming it to be impossible to find the area of a triangle because he or she doesn't know how. The country was made for the dictator's purposes, by the dictator- If this dictator is powerful enough to make a country, why shouldn't he rule it and have it be for him? You're comparing something concrete like geometry with beliefs? O_o And what exactly are you asking me to do? Argue for a different view? Admit other views exist? The former would be foolish, and the latter I do recognize. Because everything was still made by God, and so is made for His purposes first. What He wants to do with it is more important. Plus the dictator's still human, and so is bound to mess up somehow. Again, God's perfect, so it's different with Him. But you're going all or nothing- You're essentially saying "If it's not my way, it's not any way" which isn't the case. The argument was "The afterlife is what is important" but then, who is to say your vision of it is the right one? Saying "I don't know about others" is no reason to say that they are not viable possibilities. Fair enough, but it would still be fascism, even if the fascist were perfect. It's a reason not to argue for those possibilities. No one knows all the religions well enough to be able to know for sure their arguing for the right religion. From the evidences I have, my God seems to be real and powerful. He also says other gods are false, and that His way is the only one. Unless it's proven He's not real, another religion puts up an argument that seems more logical then the ones I've read about for Christianity or I lose a lot of faith, I gotta go with that. Fine, but not in the worst sense of the word, which we get from the bad examples on this earth. But what you are arguing is "If it's not my way, it's no way", which is incorrect. I never said fascism was truly bad, although I agree- in a mortal world, it is. But one being literally controlling everything is still wrong. That's why we have free will. No, I'm arguing for what I know. Who argues for what they don't know? Besides it's not 'my way', it's God's. And Zakku, where are you getting the Bible's been changed? It hasn't.
I would also like to mention that not only are you not sure if the Bible was changed, there is plenty of evidence supporting the Bible being edited.
For example, a museum deems to have the original Bible that is pretty different then todays.
It makes sense that something could be edited. After all, the Bible is made by trees and nature, and the only thing keeping it from being multiplied is us. It's not like it COULDN'T, above all odds, been edited after the time it came.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:06 pm
gohst13 i get your point about the unclean part. so let me rephrase what i said in my last post, The bible DOES say that being gay is wrong, that i know without a shadow of a doubt. just because it exact words may not be "it's a sin" doesn't mean that it's not the main part of it. some times you have to just read between the lines, especially when involving the bible. emo
If I'm correct, the Bible can be misunderstood if reading it wrong from the ancient way of it's speaking.
Let's also not forget, why did the Bible say 'unclean' and not something like derision?
If this is the case, the Bible is obviously stating that same gender sex is just different from Heterosexual sex.
I would also like to include that even if this DID relate to sex, why does it not speak of marriage itself?
Still, NO WHERE does it say that two of the same gender can't MARRY.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:32 pm
divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph But you're going all or nothing- You're essentially saying "If it's not my way, it's not any way" which isn't the case. The argument was "The afterlife is what is important" but then, who is to say your vision of it is the right one? Saying "I don't know about others" is no reason to say that they are not viable possibilities. Fair enough, but it would still be fascism, even if the fascist were perfect. It's a reason not to argue for those possibilities. No one knows all the religions well enough to be able to know for sure their arguing for the right religion. From the evidences I have, my God seems to be real and powerful. He also says other gods are false, and that His way is the only one. Unless it's proven He's not real, another religion puts up an argument that seems more logical then the ones I've read about for Christianity or I lose a lot of faith, I gotta go with that. Fine, but not in the worst sense of the word, which we get from the bad examples on this earth. But what you are arguing is "If it's not my way, it's no way", which is incorrect. I never said fascism was truly bad, although I agree- in a mortal world, it is. But one being literally controlling everything is still wrong. That's why we have free will. No, I'm arguing for what I know. Who argues for what they don't know? Besides it's not 'my way', it's God's. How is it wrong? Why do you get to deem it so? And He gave us free will. It's a gift. (Anyway this is off topic so...) And Zakku, where are you getting the Bible's been changed? It hasn't. But you're denying every possibility that you DON'T know. Which is illogical. And no, it's not. It's your way of knowing God. That is not necessarily God. For example, it was believed that piles of hay generated mice because mice came from the hay. (look it up.) That's not the way of hay, that's the way of that understanding, which is, of course, not necessarily correct. A gift we can't use? Some gift. Yes I am, because when I had a completely open mind it drove me nuts. I do pay attention and make note about what I find out about other religions, but I also choose what I believe and argue for that because 1) I really think it's true (I try not to debate about things I'm not relatively sure of), and 2) it's what I know about. If everyone refused to debate unless they had a complete knowledge of every religion though, I think there'd be very few people discussing religion. And I knew that. And watch this: http://www.youtube.com/user/onetimeblind?blend=3&ob=1#p/a/u/2/D2Flgdwlqz0 Only one way IS right, so you have to use the evidence you have to try and see what way that is. We all use it, but he gives us a lot of other gifts too. Beauty, intelligence, strength...etc.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:10 pm
Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph But you're going all or nothing- You're essentially saying "If it's not my way, it's not any way" which isn't the case. The argument was "The afterlife is what is important" but then, who is to say your vision of it is the right one? Saying "I don't know about others" is no reason to say that they are not viable possibilities. Fair enough, but it would still be fascism, even if the fascist were perfect. It's a reason not to argue for those possibilities. No one knows all the religions well enough to be able to know for sure their arguing for the right religion. From the evidences I have, my God seems to be real and powerful. He also says other gods are false, and that His way is the only one. Unless it's proven He's not real, another religion puts up an argument that seems more logical then the ones I've read about for Christianity or I lose a lot of faith, I gotta go with that. Fine, but not in the worst sense of the word, which we get from the bad examples on this earth. But what you are arguing is "If it's not my way, it's no way", which is incorrect. I never said fascism was truly bad, although I agree- in a mortal world, it is. But one being literally controlling everything is still wrong. That's why we have free will. No, I'm arguing for what I know. Who argues for what they don't know? Besides it's not 'my way', it's God's. And Zakku, where are you getting the Bible's been changed? It hasn't.
I would also like to mention that not only are you not sure if the Bible was changed, there is plenty of evidence supporting the Bible being edited.
For example, a museum deems to have the original Bible that is pretty different then todays.
It makes sense that something could be edited. After all, the Bible is made by trees and nature, and the only thing keeping it from being multiplied is us. It's not like it COULDN'T, above all odds, been edited after the time it came.I don't remember saying that last bit...could you quote me? And yes, I was arguing from the Bible I've seen it be correct about other things, and I have faith in it. O_O I never said I wasn't sure if the Bible was changed! It wasn't! Don't put words in my mouth. stare Link as proof? http://www.allabouttruth.org/bible-manuscripts-faq.htm http://www.acts17-11.com/snip_reliability.html http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-God-Word.html
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:51 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Yes I am, because when I had a completely open mind it drove me nuts. I do pay attention and make note about what I find out about other religions, but I also choose what I believe and argue for that because 1) I really think it's true (I try not to debate about things I'm not relatively sure of), and 2) it's what I know about. If everyone refused to debate unless they had a complete knowledge of every religion though, I think there'd be very few people discussing religion. And I knew that. And watch this: http://www.youtube.com/user/onetimeblind?blend=3&ob=1#p/a/u/2/D2Flgdwlqz0 Only one way IS right, so you have to use the evidence you have to try and see what way that is. We all use it, but he gives us a lot of other gifts too. Beauty, intelligence, strength...etc.
You could just as easily be the person with the wrong viewpoint, even though you're sure that you're right.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:30 pm
xxEternallyBluexx Captain_Shinzo xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph But you're going all or nothing- You're essentially saying "If it's not my way, it's not any way" which isn't the case. The argument was "The afterlife is what is important" but then, who is to say your vision of it is the right one? Saying "I don't know about others" is no reason to say that they are not viable possibilities. Fair enough, but it would still be fascism, even if the fascist were perfect. It's a reason not to argue for those possibilities. No one knows all the religions well enough to be able to know for sure their arguing for the right religion. From the evidences I have, my God seems to be real and powerful. He also says other gods are false, and that His way is the only one. Unless it's proven He's not real, another religion puts up an argument that seems more logical then the ones I've read about for Christianity or I lose a lot of faith, I gotta go with that. Fine, but not in the worst sense of the word, which we get from the bad examples on this earth. But what you are arguing is "If it's not my way, it's no way", which is incorrect. I never said fascism was truly bad, although I agree- in a mortal world, it is. But one being literally controlling everything is still wrong. That's why we have free will. No, I'm arguing for what I know. Who argues for what they don't know? Besides it's not 'my way', it's God's. And Zakku, where are you getting the Bible's been changed? It hasn't.
I would also like to mention that not only are you not sure if the Bible was changed, there is plenty of evidence supporting the Bible being edited.
For example, a museum deems to have the original Bible that is pretty different then todays.
It makes sense that something could be edited. After all, the Bible is made by trees and nature, and the only thing keeping it from being multiplied is us. It's not like it COULDN'T, above all odds, been edited after the time it came.I don't remember saying that last bit...could you quote me? And yes, I was arguing from the Bible I've seen it be correct about other things, and I have faith in it. O_O I never said I wasn't sure if the Bible was changed! It wasn't! Don't put words in my mouth. stare Link as proof? http://www.allabouttruth.org/bible-manuscripts-faq.htm http://www.acts17-11.com/snip_reliability.html http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-God-Word.html
If you don't know or it doesn't contain the evidence, then how are you fighting against gay marriage and why are you continuing?
Moving on, I never said that YOU said the Bible was changed.
I asked why you believed the Bible could not have been changed?
As for links, I never stated that it was beyond anything changed. I said there is a large possibility of it being changed.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:55 pm
xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph But you're going all or nothing- You're essentially saying "If it's not my way, it's not any way" which isn't the case. The argument was "The afterlife is what is important" but then, who is to say your vision of it is the right one? Saying "I don't know about others" is no reason to say that they are not viable possibilities. Fair enough, but it would still be fascism, even if the fascist were perfect. It's a reason not to argue for those possibilities. No one knows all the religions well enough to be able to know for sure their arguing for the right religion. From the evidences I have, my God seems to be real and powerful. He also says other gods are false, and that His way is the only one. Unless it's proven He's not real, another religion puts up an argument that seems more logical then the ones I've read about for Christianity or I lose a lot of faith, I gotta go with that. Fine, but not in the worst sense of the word, which we get from the bad examples on this earth. But what you are arguing is "If it's not my way, it's no way", which is incorrect. I never said fascism was truly bad, although I agree- in a mortal world, it is. But one being literally controlling everything is still wrong. That's why we have free will. No, I'm arguing for what I know. Who argues for what they don't know? Besides it's not 'my way', it's God's. How is it wrong? Why do you get to deem it so? And He gave us free will. It's a gift. (Anyway this is off topic so...) And Zakku, where are you getting the Bible's been changed? It hasn't. But you're denying every possibility that you DON'T know. Which is illogical. And no, it's not. It's your way of knowing God. That is not necessarily God. For example, it was believed that piles of hay generated mice because mice came from the hay. (look it up.) That's not the way of hay, that's the way of that understanding, which is, of course, not necessarily correct. A gift we can't use? Some gift. Yes I am, because when I had a completely open mind it drove me nuts. I do pay attention and make note about what I find out about other religions, but I also choose what I believe and argue for that because 1) I really think it's true (I try not to debate about things I'm not relatively sure of), and 2) it's what I know about. If everyone refused to debate unless they had a complete knowledge of every religion though, I think there'd be very few people discussing religion. And I knew that. And watch this: http://www.youtube.com/user/onetimeblind?blend=3&ob=1#p/a/u/2/D2Flgdwlqz0 Only one way IS right, so you have to use the evidence you have to try and see what way that is. We all use it, but he gives us a lot of other gifts too. Beauty, intelligence, strength...etc. And I really think it's true that God doesn't care what gender we prefer. Don't tell me about your book and your revelation, I've had my own. So now it's between our Gods. But my God is your God, and is all Gods. So really what we have here is perspective. Which brings me back to the original point- You can't say "It's either my belief or there is nothing" because I am presenting an alternative belief which is also not nothing. You're essentially saying "There is only one shape. If it's not a triangle, it's nothing." I'm saying circle, which is also a shape. The video shows a fallacy, because truth isn't so simple. Look up American military history and you will begin to see why. That wasn't my point. Why give us free will if we can't even choose who to love? It's like giving us an airplane and saying "Yeah, here ya go- Flight! Just don't take it off the ground."
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:15 pm
divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph But what you are arguing is "If it's not my way, it's no way", which is incorrect. I never said fascism was truly bad, although I agree- in a mortal world, it is. But one being literally controlling everything is still wrong. That's why we have free will. No, I'm arguing for what I know. Who argues for what they don't know? Besides it's not 'my way', it's God's. How is it wrong? Why do you get to deem it so? And He gave us free will. It's a gift. (Anyway this is off topic so...) And Zakku, where are you getting the Bible's been changed? It hasn't. But you're denying every possibility that you DON'T know. Which is illogical. And no, it's not. It's your way of knowing God. That is not necessarily God. For example, it was believed that piles of hay generated mice because mice came from the hay. (look it up.) That's not the way of hay, that's the way of that understanding, which is, of course, not necessarily correct. A gift we can't use? Some gift. Yes I am, because when I had a completely open mind it drove me nuts. I do pay attention and make note about what I find out about other religions, but I also choose what I believe and argue for that because 1) I really think it's true (I try not to debate about things I'm not relatively sure of), and 2) it's what I know about. If everyone refused to debate unless they had a complete knowledge of every religion though, I think there'd be very few people discussing religion. And I knew that. And watch this: http://www.youtube.com/user/onetimeblind?blend=3&ob=1#p/a/u/2/D2Flgdwlqz0 Only one way IS right, so you have to use the evidence you have to try and see what way that is. We all use it, but he gives us a lot of other gifts too. Beauty, intelligence, strength...etc. That wasn't my point. Why give us free will if we can't even choose who to love? It's like giving us an airplane and saying "Yeah, here ya go- Flight! Just don't take it off the ground." You choose who you love? *shrugs* It's more like saying "Yeah, here ya go- Flight! Just don't take it off the ground since one of the two bolts holding the engine on is missing." Free will works in the Christian paradigm (Catholic Christian at least), and the basic idea is that on some level we have that choice, we can hop in the airplane and if it's properly manned, built and taken care of then we're all good. If we see something wrong and still hop on for a ride then fine we still have the free will to do so, it just might not end up all that well.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:14 pm
Semiremis divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph But what you are arguing is "If it's not my way, it's no way", which is incorrect. I never said fascism was truly bad, although I agree- in a mortal world, it is. But one being literally controlling everything is still wrong. That's why we have free will. No, I'm arguing for what I know. Who argues for what they don't know? Besides it's not 'my way', it's God's. How is it wrong? Why do you get to deem it so? And He gave us free will. It's a gift. (Anyway this is off topic so...) And Zakku, where are you getting the Bible's been changed? It hasn't. But you're denying every possibility that you DON'T know. Which is illogical. And no, it's not. It's your way of knowing God. That is not necessarily God. For example, it was believed that piles of hay generated mice because mice came from the hay. (look it up.) That's not the way of hay, that's the way of that understanding, which is, of course, not necessarily correct. A gift we can't use? Some gift. Yes I am, because when I had a completely open mind it drove me nuts. I do pay attention and make note about what I find out about other religions, but I also choose what I believe and argue for that because 1) I really think it's true (I try not to debate about things I'm not relatively sure of), and 2) it's what I know about. If everyone refused to debate unless they had a complete knowledge of every religion though, I think there'd be very few people discussing religion. And I knew that. And watch this: http://www.youtube.com/user/onetimeblind?blend=3&ob=1#p/a/u/2/D2Flgdwlqz0 Only one way IS right, so you have to use the evidence you have to try and see what way that is. We all use it, but he gives us a lot of other gifts too. Beauty, intelligence, strength...etc. That wasn't my point. Why give us free will if we can't even choose who to love? It's like giving us an airplane and saying "Yeah, here ya go- Flight! Just don't take it off the ground." You choose who you love? *shrugs* It's more like saying "Yeah, here ya go- Flight! Just don't take it off the ground since one of the two bolts holding the engine on is missing." Free will works in the Christian paradigm (Catholic Christian at least), and the basic idea is that on some level we have that choice, we can hop in the airplane and if it's properly manned, built and taken care of then we're all good. If we see something wrong and still hop on for a ride then fine we still have the free will to do so, it just might not end up all that well. Ah, a bad word choice, I admit. Homosexuality is not a choice, but as mentioned, acting on it is. And there is nothing wrong with acting on love. That's what I was trying to say.
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:45 pm
divineseraph Semiremis divineseraph xxEternallyBluexx divineseraph But you're denying every possibility that you DON'T know. Which is illogical. And no, it's not. It's your way of knowing God. That is not necessarily God. For example, it was believed that piles of hay generated mice because mice came from the hay. (look it up.) That's not the way of hay, that's the way of that understanding, which is, of course, not necessarily correct. A gift we can't use? Some gift. Yes I am, because when I had a completely open mind it drove me nuts. I do pay attention and make note about what I find out about other religions, but I also choose what I believe and argue for that because 1) I really think it's true (I try not to debate about things I'm not relatively sure of), and 2) it's what I know about. If everyone refused to debate unless they had a complete knowledge of every religion though, I think there'd be very few people discussing religion. And I knew that. And watch this: http://www.youtube.com/user/onetimeblind?blend=3&ob=1#p/a/u/2/D2Flgdwlqz0 Only one way IS right, so you have to use the evidence you have to try and see what way that is. We all use it, but he gives us a lot of other gifts too. Beauty, intelligence, strength...etc. That wasn't my point. Why give us free will if we can't even choose who to love? It's like giving us an airplane and saying "Yeah, here ya go- Flight! Just don't take it off the ground." You choose who you love? *shrugs* It's more like saying "Yeah, here ya go- Flight! Just don't take it off the ground since one of the two bolts holding the engine on is missing." Free will works in the Christian paradigm (Catholic Christian at least), and the basic idea is that on some level we have that choice, we can hop in the airplane and if it's properly manned, built and taken care of then we're all good. If we see something wrong and still hop on for a ride then fine we still have the free will to do so, it just might not end up all that well. Ah, a bad word choice, I admit. Homosexuality is not a choice, but as mentioned, acting on it is. And there is nothing wrong with acting on love. That's what I was trying to say.
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:34 pm
To the person who asked me to show the quote look up
Leviticus 18 unlawful sexual relations
It's aginsed insest and gay/lesbian relationships.
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