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HQ
Autarch 140 pts
Eldar Jetbike
Laser Lance
Fusion Gun
Madiblasters

Elites
Firedragons 136 pts
6 Models
Exarch
Fire Pike
Crackshot
Tank Hunters

Troops
Guardian Jetbike Squadron 195 pts
6 models
Warlock
Conceal
Singing Spear

Dire Avengers 159 pts Wave Serpent Transport 160 pts
10 Models Twin-Linked Scatter Laser
Exarch Vectored Engines
2 x Shruiken Catapults Star Engines
Bladestorm

Fast Attack
Vyper Squadron 285 pts
3 Models
3 x Scatter Lasers
Vecotred Engines
Star Engines

Heavy Attack
Falcon 205 pts
Missile Launcher
Vector Engines
Star Engines
Holo-Fields

Falcon 215 pts
Brightlance
Vectored Engines
Star Engines
Holo-Fields

Total Points - 1490
23 Models
6 Vehicles

Any Advice or suggestions welcome

SNPR 1: Are you sure that you can give both engine upgrades to the Eldar vehicles? I was under the impression that it was a "one or the other" sort of thing.

Shin: Not a bad looking list. Something as heavy as Biker Nobz at 1k scale are going to be scary.

HQ:
Captain: Stormbolter, lightning claw, artificier 118pts
Command Squad x5: Champion, Banner, 2x combi weapons(plas/melta), plasma pistol 180 pts
Rhino: storm bolter 45 pts

Elites:
Terminator Squad x5 Stormbolters 200 pts
Dreadnaught: Multi-Melta and storm bolter 115 pts

Troops:
Tactical squad x10: plasma pistol, Plasmagun, Multi-melta 195 pts
Tactical squad x10: plasma pistol, Meltagun, Plasma Cannon 195 pts

Heavy Support:
Devastator x10:missile, missile, Lascannon, Plasma cannon 180 pts
Rhino: storm bolter 45pts
Vindicator: dozer blade, storm bolter 120 pts

TOTAL POINTS: 1498

Rhinos can be moved to whatever squad need them at that coherent moment.
Revised my list a bit. after seeking a ton of advice, on multiple sources. little too shooty for my taste, but seems versatile enough still.
At least I will still have my heavy weapons after turn 2.
The rhinos and vindicator had storm bolters regardless, but in previous list were to be unusable and only a decorative measure because I could not resist the appeal and look of said item. ninja
Did rather like the assault squad..ah well. I can surely have multiple lists for multiple enemies.
Shin: wheres your shoota for the Nob Bikers?... rofl
but seriously, looks like a delicious list. Maybe if you got more bodies on the field somehow, the tau wouldn't be such a problem? Im finding with my tyranids I desperately need more bodies. have to assemble those bodies still is why...-_-

I don't get the shoota-Nob joke... o 3o;;;

Oh and they're only a problem when it comes to low S weapons (like when he killed off 2 nobz with his S3 weapons with his commander), this playes lacks to kill stuff with strong weapons. wink

If I were to put more bodies into the list, then they wouldn't be speed freekz since those warbands are small, and most importantly, NOT on foot. wink

Bah, why charge when you can shoot AND charge? :'D

15 S5 twinlinked range 18" shots... = w =;;; <3

Target Locks aren't necessary; this unit is built for infantry killing and there's no reason for them to split fire. As I mentioned in the other thread, I feel the CIB is inferior to a Plasma Rifle, but make of that what you will. Equip the Bodyguards slightly differently in order to play the wound allocation game.



Point sink. If you're going to drop the points for Pathfinders, don't ever take Rail Rifles. They're not that good, and the unit is going to be hammered from turn 1. I suggest taking Flechette Launchers.



Weird size; make these even numbers, and lose the Markerlight on one squad, as it's probably going to steal the Pathfinder's DF the first chance it gets.


Weird sizes again. Shaper would be good, purely for the Ld, as Kroot run pretty easily.


Not bad, consider Flechette Launchers to cover your precious AV10 rear.

I think this list is mostly okay. The major point is that the 200~ish points you have in Fast Attack are your least useful units, and you'd probably do better with swapping those for a Broadside and a couple Crisis suits. I'm also not seeing alot to deal with heavy infantry; termies can ruin your day with this list.

I run an Eldar HQ very similar to this, but I don't like Laser Lances because they're very expensive and only impact the first round of combat. The fusion gun is worth it's weight in gold, so keep that.


Excessively upgraded. You're paying 136 points for 6 models where 160 points could get you a full 10. Tank Hunters is rarely necessary with the kind of penetrating power you've got, and I honestly don't think Crack Shot is worth the points (how often are you going to fail to wound with S8?).


The strength of Jetbikes is their ability to carry shuriken cannons, and their ability to distract fire. Also, Conceal isn't that useful for that squad, when you've got 3+ saves and the turboboost ability to make it temporarily invulnerable. I'd honestly run these as two separate squads of 3 with a cannon each.


Glad you caught onto the strength of Dire Avengers in laying down fire. However, you're losing points again where you don't need to. First of all, you miscounted; the squad is 152 pts, not 159. You also have 60 points of gear on the Wave Serpent that you don't need. Vectored engines are unecessary in 5th edition since skimmers only crash going flat-out. Second of all, take Shuriken Cannons, not Scatter Lasers. Significantly cheaper, and just one shot less. You don't need to worry about range; you're bringing your warriors to the front anyway.


This has got to be the entry I most insist on either modifying or getting rid of. Again with the vectored engines, and the star engines, while somewhat useful, will be rarely used. Also, you're paying almost 300 points for a squad that can only lay out 12 shots a turn. If you want gun support, get Warwalkers with Shuriken Cannons; for 45 points less, you can get 12 Shuriken -cannons- into play, that's 36 shots, but the Vypers are a damn point-sink.


I admire the prospect of the hard-to-kill tank, but you're going points-heavy again. You can get a great gunship with 130 points; two shuriken cannons and the pulse cannon. Vector engines are obsolete, and star engines are purpose-defeating; you'll never get shots off if you use them, and you'll waste the points of the upgrade if you don't.



Same as last.



Alright, that said, here's my overall view. You're taking an army which can operate -very- efficiently with minimal special equipment and over-ladening it with the upgrades. Think about what you want units for, and how you can get it for less, and you'll suddenly realize how much opportunity you have. My last Eldar 1500 army had 48 infantry and 7 vehicles. Things that look neat on the codex page can be a serious strain on your points; lean more towards leaving things fairly basic, and conserving points to put more guns on the field.

If you're interested, you can PM me and I can send you a couple Eldar lists of mine, I've got dozens.

Well, second-to-last list. razz