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Educated Jackass

PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:29 pm


All I am saying is that a green light district would work,as long as the age limits where taken seriously.And, in the future, if we have not already fallen apart as a country due to all of our current problems, I can totally see
the perfect formula for growing, selling, and smoking pot being a reality.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:06 am


My biggest problem with legalization is that, if legalized, I won't be able to profit from the dankey-dank. And the only thing I like more than green herb, is green backs.(actually, both of those things are NOT on the top of my list of favorite things, but I just wanted to make a point)

Piotr Stoochat



faolan

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:20 am


Piotr Stoochat
My biggest problem with legalization is that, if legalized, I won't be able to profit from the dankey-dank. And the only thing I like more than green herb, is green backs.(actually, both of those things are NOT on the top of my list of favorite things, but I just wanted to make a point)

Point made, but watch your legal back -- greenbacks and dead presidents are lurvely, no question, but receiving legal tender in exchange for illegal goods can get that legal tender confiscated. ^_~

But since we're speaking hypothetically, of course, I'd have to say it'd depend on the terms of the legalization or decriminalization. Say it'd be like beer, for example (making "this Bud's for you" a more appealing phrase)... you can brew your own beer, after all. And if your buddy wants to take your home brew to serve at a party and insists on paying you... *shrug* Apply similar concept to cannabis... voila. Potentially fair to all.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:35 am


faolan
Piotr Stoochat
My biggest problem with legalization is that, if legalized, I won't be able to profit from the dankey-dank. And the only thing I like more than green herb, is green backs.(actually, both of those things are NOT on the top of my list of favorite things, but I just wanted to make a point)

Point made, but watch your legal back -- greenbacks and dead presidents are lurvely, no question, but receiving legal tender in exchange for illegal goods can get that legal tender confiscated. ^_~

But since we're speaking hypothetically, of course, I'd have to say it'd depend on the terms of the legalization or decriminalization. Say it'd be like beer, for example (making "this Bud's for you" a more appealing phrase)... you can brew your own beer, after all. And if your buddy wants to take your home brew to serve at a party and insists on paying you... *shrug* Apply similar concept to cannabis... voila. Potentially fair to all.


Actually, my point was more that if you want to get rid of drug dealers, legalize drugs. At least then gangs won't have money for guns. Besides, I smoke way too much to make any money from that s**t.

Yea, it seems like the easiest thing to get busted for among all crimes is drug-related crimes. I just finished watching goodfellas for the first time, and out of all the murders, robberies, and rackets those mobsters were committing, the only thing any of them ever got busted for was drugs.(except for the gambler that rolled on them for extortion) The craziest part is that it was (largely) a true story.

There's really no (enormous) profit to be made in selling homemade liquor(I've tried). I'm sure the same would be true for bud if it were to be legalized. Growing pot would become a full-time job, just like brewing is now. And that's not exactly easy money.

Piotr Stoochat


SatoriValentine

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:27 am


In the first post you have several reasons to legalize it. With the refining potential we could have cloth and become independent of the worlds oil which we are using up by the minute. Cannabis is a renewable source which means we can grow enough of it to make everyone happy. It can be grown in almost any soils and it doesnt even use a whole lot of water. Also it is like soy in the fact that it actually puts back the minerals that make the ground fertile. Its better for you that alcohol because you cant smoke yourself dead and the statement that it makes you laugh uncontrollably for stupid reasons I wouldnt stop laughing for a minute then cause the world is stupid, coming up with laws to hurt certain people just because they like to smoke instead of drink.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:22 am


mrgreen i did smoke for my cancer treatments (the after affects)
but do not smoke now heart but if it was legal i most likely would, i suffer with eating and the pot that was prescipted for me helped me to eat and keep the food down whee

redmaster69


Chronic Wanker

PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:40 pm


I'm for legalization,
my dad needs pot.
he's a complete jerk, and my mom says he was so much better when he smoked the ganja.

I've heard it's excellent for "feminine" pains too.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:48 am


Piotr Stoochat
My biggest problem with legalization is that, if legalized, I won't be able to profit from the dankey-dank. And the only thing I like more than green herb, is green backs.(actually, both of those things are NOT on the top of my list of favorite things, but I just wanted to make a point)





On top of a captalist society being able to facilitate the market growth for a new industry, we would also have a plant that could be taxed and used to help fun the government.

Also consider the Billions of dollars spent currently to persue and jail cannabis smokers. Over 9 Billion a YEAR. Stop chasing them means less money spent and the ability to have lower taxes.

Damieon


RaveKitten13

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:06 pm


Piotr Stoochat
My biggest problem with legalization is that, if legalized, I won't be able to profit from the dankey-dank. And the only thing I like more than green herb, is green backs.(actually, both of those things are NOT on the top of my list of favorite things, but I just wanted to make a point)
Apply for a vendors license.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:11 am


Kureyan
The Sexy Chainsaw God
Drug use causes serious problems in society: accidents, lost productivity on the job, and wrecked families. Legalizing marijuana will make things worse.

Not if you are a responsible adult, it doesn't. Ask the U.S. Army. They did a study and showed no effect. If this were true, why would many Eastern cultures, and Jamaicans, use marijuana to help them work harder?

Agreed.
Also - I have yet to see a wrecked society in the Netherlands. If anything, decriminalization has proved marijuana use to be less of a *forbidden fruit*, thereby lowering teenage use and abuse.

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The Sexy Chainsaw God
The marijuana available today is much more potent than the stuff hippies smoked in the 1960s and 1970s.
GOOD! Actually, this is not true, but if it were, it would mean that marijuana is safer to smoke today than it was in the Sixties. (More potent cannabis means less smoking means less lung damage.) People who use this statistic just plain do not know what they are talking about. Sometimes they will even claim that marijuana is now twenty to thirty times stronger, which is physically impossible because it would have to be *over* 100% Delta-9-THC. The truth is, marijuana has not really changed potency all that much, if at all, in the last several hundred years. Growing potent cannabis is an ancient art
which has not improved in centuries, despite all our modern technology. Before marijuana was even made illegal, drug stores sold tinctures of cannabis which were over 40% THC.

Partially agreed.
The THC content fluctuates a lot, and here the growers do make an effort to raise the THC percentage.
Legally bought *nederwiet* now contains on average circa 20% THC, whereas is contained just half that percentage not 10 years ago. Also - commercially/legally grown weed contains much more THC than imported, "foreign" weed, on average.

Trimbos Institute


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The blue line represents THC content in "nederwiet", the pink one in foreign weed, and the red one refers to hash.




With regards to the gateway drug theory; it is a little known fact that fear of the gateway theory actually being true spawned the Dutch liberal drug policy. The idea was that marijuana users might more easily be seduced to try hard drugs when their dealers sold both. By taking marijuana sales out of illegality - the gateway effect would be avoided.

Now, as Kureyan and undoubtedly others have shown, the gateway effect hasn't been proven to exist in the first place. But it still is interesting to see the different policy responses to a theory.

_Morgane Fay_


Master Akhekhu Crocell

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 9:47 pm


I would at least love for medical marijuana to be allowed in my state. I have CVS (Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome) and none of the medications they have prescribed for me help at all. My CVS is hell for me and creates a lot of job-related issues. When I used to smoke, it helped me greatly. My headaches were gone and I rarely would go through any episodes at all. When the problem started rearing it's ugly head (predrome phase if you read the link), I'd simply smoke when I started feeling it and I never seemed to enter the next part of it or the issue was severely reduced to a tolerable level. Legalization would be great as long as there's some air of regulation (age 18+ only can buy/sell, etc).

I would smoke, but in my area... the dealers are less than reputable and I worry about things being slipped into it. If I could find a good dealer, I'd probably smoke a bit again. It made for some good memories with friends and helped my CVS greatly.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:36 pm


Master Akhekhu Crocell
I would at least love for medical marijuana to be allowed in my state. I have CVS (Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome) and none of the medications they have prescribed for me help at all. My CVS is hell for me and creates a lot of job-related issues. When I used to smoke, it helped me greatly. My headaches were gone and I rarely would go through any episodes at all. When the problem started rearing it's ugly head (predrome phase if you read the link), I'd simply smoke when I started feeling it and I never seemed to enter the next part of it or the issue was severely reduced to a tolerable level. Legalization would be great as long as there's some air of regulation (age 18+ only can buy/sell, etc).

I would smoke, but in my area... the dealers are less than reputable and I worry about things being slipped into it. If I could find a good dealer, I'd probably smoke a bit again. It made for some good memories with friends and helped my CVS greatly.

CVS? I'm going to need to learn more about that one. Doesn't sound very fun, though. It's amazing, the range of conditions that marijuana helps with. I take it you don't live in a "green" state, then?

As for regulating it, I'd say that's only logical. I mean, current DUI/DWI laws already apply to any psychoactive substance. You can get a DUI if you take cough syrup and drive. Hypothetically, at least. As for the whole "people will be stoned at work," I have to wonder if tons of people are usually drunk at work and I'm just too dense to notice it. *shrug*


faolan

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