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 Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:02 am
Blind Guardian the 2nd Mitsh Yes. >8[ But no. |D Surely to Christ one could glean /something/ from DBZ. I mean, there's this whole 'psiball' thing in psionics, where you make some sort of sphere with etheric energy, which could transliterate as a kamehameha of sorts if pushed out with enough force, or something? Obviously the results won't be a cloud of dust that part to reveal (gasp!) that the opponent is still standing, but the principle is the same. Kinda. o_O Having seen how ki/chi really works at the hands of Shaolin and Aikijutsu masters, I can safely say that you're not going to get much, if anything, from watching a TV show. There is a HUGE differance between Traditional energy manipulation and Radical energy manipulation. Traditional usualy is more about keeping balance in energy and Radical is usualy about using energy in means other then balance...lol couldnt think of how to word it. I will say that fiction isnt the best thing to base real things off of but its not impossible to take fiction and make it real.
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:58 am
The FLCL Guy There is a HUGE differance between Traditional energy manipulation and Radical energy manipulation.Traditional usualy is more about keeping balance in energy and Radical is usualy about using energy in means other then balance...lol couldnt think of how to word it. I will say that fiction isnt the best thing to base real things off of but its not impossible to take fiction and make it real. Yeah, I know there is. One works, and the other is fiction. Traditional is not just about keeping your own balance, but breaking the balance of others. It's not an entirely internal system. Also, please explain to me how breaking your balance can be of any benefit, seeing as ki/chi is inseperably linked to breathing.
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:47 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd The FLCL Guy There is a HUGE differance between Traditional energy manipulation and Radical energy manipulation.Traditional usualy is more about keeping balance in energy and Radical is usualy about using energy in means other then balance...lol couldnt think of how to word it. I will say that fiction isnt the best thing to base real things off of but its not impossible to take fiction and make it real. Yeah, I know there is. One works, and the other is fiction. Traditional is not just about keeping your own balance, but breaking the balance of others. It's not an entirely internal system. Also, please explain to me how breaking your balance can be of any benefit, seeing as ki/chi is inseperably linked to breathing. Im not gonna do this argument again, If you practice Traditional energy use thne Radical seems impossible.
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:08 pm
The FLCL Guy Blind Guardian the 2nd The FLCL Guy There is a HUGE differance between Traditional energy manipulation and Radical energy manipulation.Traditional usualy is more about keeping balance in energy and Radical is usualy about using energy in means other then balance...lol couldnt think of how to word it. I will say that fiction isnt the best thing to base real things off of but its not impossible to take fiction and make it real. Yeah, I know there is. One works, and the other is fiction. Traditional is not just about keeping your own balance, but breaking the balance of others. It's not an entirely internal system. Also, please explain to me how breaking your balance can be of any benefit, seeing as ki/chi is inseperably linked to breathing. Im not gonna do this argument again, If you practice Traditional energy use thne Radical seems impossible. "Radical" energy manipulation is impossible due to our current standing point. If/When the veil falls it would be seemingly possible, as we are now, no, it wont ever happen.
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:30 pm
The FLCL Guy Im not gonna do this argument again, If you practice Traditional energy use thne Radical seems impossible. Show me empirical evidence that it isn't, and I'll believe you. You can't hope for anyone to believe your point of view if you just go "you're too closed minded to understand". The fact is, I've seen traditional methods work, and I've heard a guy on the internet TALK about a far fetched "radical" method on the internet. What do you expect me to believe? Really?
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:19 pm
I've seen chi applied in the martial arts sense several times. I've seen people put out candles with strikes, explode the center of a grapefruit while leaving the outside unscathed, drive nails through 3/4 inch pine with their bare hands, break flaming concrete blocks, people having boards broken over their throats, arms, and legs, etc. All of this I've seen with my own eyes during my years of formal martial arts training.
I've been hit with a strike and manifested a bruise on the opposite side of my body. I'd consider those "conventional" uses of the energy.
I've read accounts of martial arts masters using kiai to throw an opponent without touching them or render someone unconscious with a tap. I feel that that is probably the extent of direct combat application for such forces.
I'm still not sure what is meant by the term "radical use" but I wouldn't expect to see any kamehameha waves flying around. You may be able to influence your opponent's mind in some way over a distance, but it's not feasible for a combat situation as they'd probably just stomp you to death while you were trying to fry their brain.
Energy by its very nature is subtle and combat is usually anything but subtle. Most of the time you require a physical conveyor to impart the unbalancing/disrupting energy: a yell, a touch, or a strike. I just don't see any other way to use the energy in combat.
I'm still open to the possibility of phasing, folding, and the like but it doesn't seem applicable to a combat situation as the stress levels are just too high.
Two more pennies for you guys. xd
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:27 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd The FLCL Guy Im not gonna do this argument again, If you practice Traditional energy use thne Radical seems impossible. Show me empirical evidence that it isn't, and I'll believe you. You can't hope for anyone to believe your point of view if you just go "you're too closed minded to understand". The fact is, I've seen traditional methods work, and I've heard a guy on the internet TALK about a far fetched "radical" method on the internet. What do you expect me to believe? Really? What would be enough proof? A video of me destroying something with only energy?
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:35 pm
The FLCL Guy Blind Guardian the 2nd The FLCL Guy Im not gonna do this argument again, If you practice Traditional energy use thne Radical seems impossible. Show me empirical evidence that it isn't, and I'll believe you. You can't hope for anyone to believe your point of view if you just go "you're too closed minded to understand". The fact is, I've seen traditional methods work, and I've heard a guy on the internet TALK about a far fetched "radical" method on the internet. What do you expect me to believe? Really? What would be enough proof? A video of me destroying something with only energy? That'd be nice ^_^, got a webcam? Do it live.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:03 am
The FLCL Guy Blind Guardian the 2nd The FLCL Guy Im not gonna do this argument again, If you practice Traditional energy use thne Radical seems impossible. Show me empirical evidence that it isn't, and I'll believe you. You can't hope for anyone to believe your point of view if you just go "you're too closed minded to understand". The fact is, I've seen traditional methods work, and I've heard a guy on the internet TALK about a far fetched "radical" method on the internet. What do you expect me to believe? Really? What would be enough proof? A video of me destroying something with only energy? No offense kiddo, but you don't have the most impressive track record when it comes to telling the truth. I can see Blind Guardian's point here. Don't spew it if you can't back it up.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:43 am
The FLCL Guy Blind Guardian the 2nd The FLCL Guy Im not gonna do this argument again, If you practice Traditional energy use thne Radical seems impossible. Show me empirical evidence that it isn't, and I'll believe you. You can't hope for anyone to believe your point of view if you just go "you're too closed minded to understand". The fact is, I've seen traditional methods work, and I've heard a guy on the internet TALK about a far fetched "radical" method on the internet. What do you expect me to believe? Really? What would be enough proof? A video of me destroying something with only energy? Yep. That'd be sufficient proof. I want you to provide something that suggests you are not lying about your powers. 'kay?
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:25 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd The FLCL Guy Blind Guardian the 2nd The FLCL Guy Im not gonna do this argument again, If you practice Traditional energy use thne Radical seems impossible. Show me empirical evidence that it isn't, and I'll believe you. You can't hope for anyone to believe your point of view if you just go "you're too closed minded to understand". The fact is, I've seen traditional methods work, and I've heard a guy on the internet TALK about a far fetched "radical" method on the internet. What do you expect me to believe? Really? What would be enough proof? A video of me destroying something with only energy? Yep. That'd be sufficient proof. I want you to provide something that suggests you are not lying about your powers. 'kay? ok soon as I find the driver to my webcam I will show you guys.
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:17 pm
The FLCL Guy Blind Guardian the 2nd The FLCL Guy Blind Guardian the 2nd The FLCL Guy Im not gonna do this argument again, If you practice Traditional energy use thne Radical seems impossible. Show me empirical evidence that it isn't, and I'll believe you. You can't hope for anyone to believe your point of view if you just go "you're too closed minded to understand". The fact is, I've seen traditional methods work, and I've heard a guy on the internet TALK about a far fetched "radical" method on the internet. What do you expect me to believe? Really? What would be enough proof? A video of me destroying something with only energy? Yep. That'd be sufficient proof. I want you to provide something that suggests you are not lying about your powers. 'kay? ok soon as I find the driver to my webcam I will show you guys. What's the name-brand-model of your webcam? I can find it in 2 minutes.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:04 am
It takes two days to make a one minute video?
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:31 am
Blind Guardian the 2nd It takes two days to make a one minute video? Thats what I was thinking XD. He'll probably come back with some excuse like: "I lost my webcam" or "It broke" or "I can't find the drivers for it" <--- if he can't, I can.
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:13 pm
[BlkCat] Blind Guardian the 2nd It takes two days to make a one minute video? Thats what I was thinking XD. He'll probably come back with some excuse like: "I lost my webcam" or "It broke" or "I can't find the drivers for it" <--- if he can't, I can. Okay, in that case, I shall prepare my answers too. "Buy a new one." or "Get the drivers from Blkie."
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