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avstin

PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:07 pm


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He died for one reason, the same reason Megatron did. New leader ment new toys to sell. Afterall transformers really is just a 22 minute long commercial for the toys.


eek Wow. Bitter much?


So bitter I own 17 different Primes.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:55 pm


Actually, they killed him because killing the guy in the GI Joe movie worked well with test audiences, and they decided it would work just as well on TF audiences. Whoops! That's why they ended up not killing the guy in the Joe movie.

Londo Mollari


avstin

PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 3:59 am


Adib
Actually, they killed him because killing the guy in the GI Joe movie worked well with test audiences, and they decided it would work just as well on TF audiences. Whoops! That's why they ended up not killing the guy in the Joe movie.


yeah I was about to say, that's why they didn't.

wasn't there some line voice edited in at the end saying 'Duke's alive!!' or something like that?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 10:49 am


Either that he was a live or in a coma but not dead. I have never seen the movie myself, only read about it.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:38 pm


eek Never . . . seen . . . movie!?! *faints*
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:17 am


I've never seen the GI Joe movie either... xp

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Londo Mollari

PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 9:01 am


I never really liked GI Joe.

Nice optical illusion in your signature, btw. Successive contrast is the shiznit.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:31 am


Fulgrim
I feel very strongly that Optimus Primal was the superior prime.

He was in my oppinion the most intelligent and developed Prime we have had thus far. With 3 seaons of Beast Wars that gave him character development that was un-pressidented in the other series.

Now I hate what they did to him in Beast Machines, he was a slagging Cybertronian Jehovah's Witness. Beast Machines made me root for the bad guys, and I will forever be a Vehicon at Heart.

G1 Prime was ruined by too many lame returns from the dead.
Rodimus Prime was ruined the moment he destroyed Unicron, he hero worship of Prime and depression made him a sorry character. Hot Rod was much better.

RiD Prime. Never watched RiD much, but the only good thing that came from him was being scanned and copied to make Scourge.

Armada & Energon Prime. He is better that Rid Prime and Rodimus, but not as good as G1 or Primal. He is right in the middle of the scale.

As I said I like Optimus Primal, and that's just Prime.

Actually I disagree on more then one points of your posts in regards to the Optimuses that have come and gone over time.

G1 Prime: Despite what you think Dark Awakening was the a good darker prelude to his true Return in the Return of Optimus Prime 2 part episodes.

BW Optimus Primal: He made more then one mistake especially in the first season and still made mistakes later on in the series in regards to command decisions.

RID Optimus Prime: This Prime was powerful, compassionate, friendly a natural born Autobot to fit the role of Prime very well, he also bore resemblance to G1 Prime in both of his normal and Super Optimus Prime robot modes.
Some people do think he was a hippy I disagree with that, he was a firefighting Autobot in his spare time he was a natural hero.
He was also decently smart in regards with how to deal with the Predacons.
He had an effective way of dealing with them for the most part.

Armada Optimus and Energon Optimus: They ended being more war track minded in the end, though origionally Armada Optimus Prime did have some resemblances to G1 Prime through personnality, it was mostly though.
"Come on men we've got to save the minicons" or something like that.

Beast Machines Primal: I don't have an opinion on him as I never did see Beast Machines. crying

Robin the Aussie


Draginta

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 11:45 am


Optimus Primal is the best one out there. His personality is the one you can relate the most to. G1 Prime was just too idealistic in my opinion.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:43 am


G1 prime. Not only does he rule, he can shot down a Deceptiocn from 30 miles away, with a non fatal shot! Wow, That's impressive!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:13 am


I'd have to Rodimus Prime!
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:48 pm


gen 1

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 5:31 pm


Optimus from RID waws kinda cool, like when he went omega... sweatdrop

otherwise, I have to say optimal optimus from BW season 3
PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 10:09 pm


Scourge 'nemisis prime'

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:46 am


Okay, raise your hand if you were one of the multitudes of children who broke down and cried when the great Optimus Prime ceased functioning in The Movie. Now, keep your hand up if you'd similarly shed a tear for any of the other Prime substitutes to serve since. Still got your hand in the air? Thought not.

The original incarnation of Optimus Prime is by far the best, hands down, no contention. He served as a quasi-patriarch for a generation of young boys (and a few girls too, I've been finding recently...), and there aren't too many cartoon characters who can genuinely claim such as an attribute. Show someone a picture of Optimus and they will instantly reply, "Ah, Transformers!", whether they were a fan of the show or not. There's a reason he's become such an iconic ambassador for the franchise; he's a brilliantly concieved character. The design is perfect - strong, brave, noble. A leader robot that reconfigures into a truck, king of the road. The distinctive red and blue motif, catching the eye instantly and burning into the memory's eye. Peter Cullen's commanding yet compassionate voice resounding from his vocal synthesizer, echoing with the wisdom of a learned scholar, with a hint of the southern drawl typified by the heroes of the Wild West. An unforgettable character, who paved the way for all others who follow in his stead.

Mylian
The mistake was killing [Optimus Prime] off in the first place. Bringing him back was admission that they'd screwed up and shouldn't have done it, but it was too late; the damage to the storyline had already been done.


In all honesty, this is one of the most ridiculous contentions I have ever heard! The Transformers are meant to be at WAR, and in war soldiers inevitably DIE. It's a simple equation, really. Removing Prime from the cast was an unbelievably brave move of the producers, especially at this time, and one they should be commended for. The problem was not with the decission to replace Optimus, rather, it was with their choice of replacement.

Rodimus Prime was just a whiny, self-depricating pessimist, in the worst possible way. He could have been an interesting character, but the delivery was all wrong, and many children were turned off by the darkness that ensued. I guess that's why Optimus made a return from the cyber-grave; a formular for reasurrection that would soon become tiresomely repetative. But one cannot hold this against the character, as it was simply the result of simplistic writing, which was the product of the day. Desperate backpeddling to save a floundering franchise.

Anything outside of the Generation 1 universe isn't worth mentioning, quite frankly. Flat, two-demensional cardboard cut-outs with no character or presence to speak of. While the RiD incarnation of Optimus Prime brought us one of the very best toys to be released as part of this line, nothing can be said of its narrative representation. Besides, the Masterpiece figure is simply unbeatable.

Optimus Primal? In interesting character, but NOT an Optimus Prime. He was believable and true, to be sure, but didn't possess the inner strength of his idol. I did like the concept of a character who modelled his life around a forefather of the age-old Cybertronian conflict; too easy would it have been to simply make Primal a future incarnation of the same character with a self-parodying name change. Primal was possibly more human than Prime, also, with all-too-familiar failings in his personal make-up. He was reasonable company, but probably the weakest presence in the Maximal line-up, all things considered. And that which he degenerated into c** 'Beast Machines' further sullied the character beyond redemption. No, for me, the original IS the best.

Oh, and by the way, I absolutely HATE the whole insipid Scourge/Nemesis Prime thing... can we please just GET OVER IT?! scream
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